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A Republican Police State?
By Paul Craig Roberts

Is a vote for a Republican a vote for a police state?

Everyone who saw Dr. Steven Hatfill’s Fox News press conference on Sunday, August 25, must be asking themselves this question.

http://europe.cnn.com/2002/US/08/25/ant ... index.html
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) -- Former Army biomedical researcher Steven Hatfill declared Sunday he had nothing to do with last fall's anthrax attacks and accused the FBI of hounding him and his girlfriend in order to give the appearance that it was making progress in the investigation . . .

The 48-year-old doctor said, "My life is being destroyed by arrogant government bureaucrats who are peddling groundless innuendo and half information." . . .

"[My girlfriend] was screamed at by FBI agents and told that the FBI had firm evidence that I had killed five innocent people," Hatfill said. He displayed pictures of his girlfriend's apartment he said had been taken after it was "ransacked" by the FBI. The pictures showed boxes ripped apart . . .
Once again the FBI and Department of Justice (sic) are displaying what former Scripps Howard News Service editor Dan Thomasson calls “a callous disregard for a citizen’s rights.”

Dr. Hatfill is getting the Richard Jewell treatment, only worse. Mr. Jewell was the security guard at the 1996 Atlanta Olympics who spotted the knapsack bomb and moved people away before the explosion. Lacking a suspect, the FBI theorized that Mr. Jewell planted the bomb himself in order to gain attention by becoming a hero.

The FBI had no evidence whatsoever against Mr. Jewell, but neither ethics, professional integrity, nor the lack of evidence prevented a steady stream of leaks to an obedient media insinuating that Jewell was the bomber.

The FBI was never held accountable for its abuse of power. Consequently, the FBI feels free to treat Hatfill more brutally. FBI agents told Hatfill’s fiancée and his associates that he was a murderer. FBI agents terrorized Hatfill’s fiancée and ransacked her apartment, hoping that fear would cause her to end her ordeal by going along with FBI charges against Hatfill.

Anyone familiar with Stalinist and Gestapo methods recognizes the technique.

As in the Jewell case, the FBI has substituted a theory for evidence. The theory is that Dr. Hatfill, a patriotic American who serves his country, sent the anthrax letters in order to demonstrate America’s lack of preparedness against terrorists.

Hatfill evidently believes that taking his case to the media will protect him from a Justice (sic) Department frame- up. In relying on the media he has chosen a weak reed.

The American media functions primarily as a pimp for government. The liberal media will blast conservative Republicans, but never the government. The small and dwindling conservative media refuses to “help criminals” by criticizing the “forces of law and order.” Consequently, every prosecutor with a high profile case relies on the media to pressure the target into a plea bargain.

Rudolph Giuliani had no evidence against “junk bond king” Michael Milken. He had something better: pimps at the Wall Street Journal and New York Times. He used his media pimps first to destroy Milken’s reputation and then to raise the stakes with leaks about a “98-count indictment” and a “superseding indictment” with 160-300 additional counts.

The pressure built until Milken’s lawyers convinced him to make a plea to six minor infractions in order to end the ordeal.

Would a prosecutor as mean as Giuliani settle for a plea to six minor charges, none of which were among the alleged crimes leaked to the media, if he really had 98 to 300 counts?

Today the media is even less likely to protest prosecutorial abuse of civil rights. Only members of victim groups can turn to the media for help. As recent bestsellers by media insiders make clear, feminists, minorities, and homosexuals now dominate the American media. Most are indebted to government enforced quotas for their jobs, and they view white heterosexual males, such as Hatfill, as members of a hegemonic “oppressor class.” Why should they help one of their oppressors defend his rights?

Hatfill bravely challenged the Department of Justice (sic), but reporters who discussed his news conference on Fox News showed little inclination to investigate our government’s abusive treatment of Dr. Hatfill. It would be work and unpopular, and the government might come after them. After all, prosecutors only need a theory.

Americans had better wake up! It can happen to you. No federal agent was held accountable for murdering a mother and her child at Ruby Ridge. No federal agent was held accountable for the massacre of women and children at Waco. These same unaccountable and deadly forces have now been given unprecedented police powers in the name of “the war on terror.”

Some conservatives will not believe that the FBI would ever lie. These conservatives should acquaint themselves with the recent ruling by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that the FBI has made 75 misrepresentations in order to obtain espionage and terrorism warrants. Attorney General John Ashcroft takes exception to the court, demanding an expansive interpretation of the FBI’s new powers. Ashcroft views our civil rights as justifiable “collateral damage” in the “war on terror.”

The war on terror is a war on the American people. This is now coming home to 17 U.S. senators. The entire Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and its staff have been ordered by the FBI to turn over phone records, appointment calendars and daily schedules. Someone leaked the fact that the government did not bother to translate an intercepted warning about September 11 until the next day. The FBI wants to jail the U.S. senators who it suspects blew the whistle on the government’s coverup of that failure.

The Senate has absolute authority to investigate and discipline its members if there is reason to believe that a leak has injured national security. By kowtowing to a police agency, the Senate has forever diminished its independence.

If the U.S. Congress had any sense, it would abolish the FBI, demolish the building, and sow the ground with salt before it has a real Gestapo on its hands.

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Paul Craig Roberts is the co-author with Lawrence M. Stratton of The Tyranny of Good Intentions: How Prosecutors and Bureaucrats Are Trampling the Constitution in the Name of Justice
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You'd know about gestapo meathod's wouldn't you? :D
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I'll have to make this post quick, before the government agent in my house diconnsects the phone line so he can bug it.

Yes, people are willing to give up some liberties in a time of war, but war isn't an excuse to enforce a police state.
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My firends, welcome to the new coming Era of McCarthyism! Now, if you excuse me, I'll be gathering info and posting it on Canadian Webservers before the government can shut me down
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Post by Peregrin Toker »

Although I disagree with you on some points, you are right that the War on Terror actually has some nasty side-effect which limit people's civil rights. (or so, I'm told)

Anyway, I'm against the current government in USA and authoritarian ideology in general.
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It's bad enough that thousands of people died on September 11th. It's even worse because the administration seems dead set on making sure that those deaths were in vain.

Those people died as a result of freedom; they are martyrs to freedom. Using their deaths as an excuse to clamp down on civil rights and freedom is an utter disrespect to what they died for.

But, as Americans, we have grown complacent with our rights. We take them for granted. We're always willing to trade them away for the feeling of safety and security. Bit by bit, we'll just keep giving them away until we're nothing but a fascist state with nothing but our founding fathers' words to back up our claims of respect for civil liberties and inalienable rights.
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I have said it before, and I will say it again.
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I would offer that a lot of the "abuses" of the FBI mentioned in the OP - such as the treatment of Mr. Jewell - were primarily the result of the media overhyping the case. It has nothing to do with the Feds when CNN finds out about a "possible suspect" and throws extreme-close-ups and 2-second sound bytes around like they were confetti.

If anything, we should all stop giving a shit what the mass media tells us.
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that is genuinly quite scary.
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