Looking for Sci-fi/Fantasy films/books with heavy nudity/sex

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-06-26 11:57am

Gil Hamilton wrote:I remember when I went to some SCA events and their were some folks that seemed to be really into the whole Gor thing. Called Toochucks or something like that. Really, I only read part of one Gor book and it sucked ass.

Then again, I've read about that much of the Darkover series, at it was a butt vacuum too.

*shrug*

The Tuchuks started out based on one of Norman's first novels... but they've dropped the worst of the sexism over the past 10-15 years.

Scary but true.. the Tuchuks are going PC.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-06-26 12:01pm

LadyTevar wrote:The Tuchuks started out based on one of Norman's first novels... but they've dropped the worst of the sexism over the past 10-15 years.

What has Norman written, aside from Gor??

(I think he once wrote a nonfiction book.... unsurprisingly, it was about S&M)

Sriad · Post by **Sriad** » 2003-06-26 12:02pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Concerning Kite, make sure you get the "Director's Cut"* version and not the shorter heavily edited version.

*Literally a "cut", as the director removed all the pedophilic junk that the production company had him put in originally...

Okay, I kind of get what you're saying, but how can the director's cut be a "cut" and the other be a shorter heavily edited version? Or is there a normal Japanese release, the director's cut, and an American release?

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-06-26 12:04pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:
Then again, I've read about that much of the Darkover series, at it was a butt vacuum too.

Well, there are twenty books in the Darkover series, plus anthologies. Some of the books MZB actually wrote, and she's a good author. The others were collections of words that fulfilled contract obligations. People who can acknowledge that have real lives--ones who can't are the Darkover equivlant of fanboys (but the percentage of females outnumbers males).

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-06-26 12:04pm

LadyTevar wrote:The Tuchuks started out based on one of Norman's first novels... but they've dropped the worst of the sexism over the past 10-15 years.

Scary but true.. the Tuchuks are going PC.

Hrm... all I know is that they had a camp full of woman in rabbit fur and leather bikini things and men in loincloths. And they tried unsuccessfully to kill, butcher, cook, and eat a pig (the pig bit one and ran away, and I don't know what happened to it). Fun folks, really.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-06-26 12:09pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote: Well, there are twenty books in the Darkover series, plus anthologies. Some of the books MZB actually wrote, and she's a good author. The others were collections of words that fulfilled contract obligations. People who can acknowledge that have real lives--ones who can't are the Darkover equivlant of fanboys (but the percentage of females outnumbers males).

Well, the one I read some of was sitting on someones coffeetable and I had an hour to burn. It didn't impress me at all.

Sriad · Post by **Sriad** » 2003-06-26 12:13pm

Rubberanvil wrote:
XaLEv wrote:
Leia: Wicked City has alot of sex and nudity in it too. Watch it with your parents.
Actually it's very little sex and just a lot boob shots. In other words it doesn't even count as a soft-porn title, and action scenes are boring and sleep inducing.

While I agree with you on the actual quality of Wicked City, it's quite a lot more explicit than you're letting on. There's the freaky sex scene at the beginning, something very much like tentacle rape later, and a few other instances. If I'm remembering correctly; it's been like six years since I saw it.

The Hypereon books by Dan Simmons have some good sex in 'em. Plus they're dang good all by themselves.

Snowcrash by Neal Stephenson has a scene in it that's a bit pedo (she's like, 15-16) but really hot. And the book is also a good read.

Let's see... Also check out the work of Michael Swanwick. He's one of the premier short story sci-fi writers of current times, (In 1999 three of the six short stories nominated for the Hugo were his) and many of his stories contain instances of bizzare, mind altering, or evil sex. Check out his short story collection Tales of Old Earth or his novel The Iron Dragon's Daughter.
Also check out the short story anthologies Redshift (ed. Al Sarrantonio) and Dangerous Visions (ed. Harlan Ellison)

Rubberanvil · Post by **Rubberanvil** » 2003-06-26 02:15pm

Sriad wrote: Okay, I kind of get what you're saying, but how can the director's cut be a "cut" and the other be a shorter heavily edited version? Or is there a normal Japanese release, the director's cut, and an American release?

For the list of cuts of Kite.
http://www.animeprime.com/reports/kite.shtml

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-06-27 11:12am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:The Tuchuks started out based on one of Norman's first novels... but they've dropped the worst of the sexism over the past 10-15 years.
What has Norman written, aside from Gor??

(I think he once wrote a nonfiction book.... unsurprisingly, it was about S&M)

Yes... the Non-Fiction book was a general "how to please your master", and listed many different scenarios for B&S/S&M lovers to act out.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-06-27 11:29am

On the subject of sci-fi/fantasy books with sex in them. I suggest trying out the last couple of Laurel K. Hamilton's Anita Blake series. I like the whole series but she doesn't really get that much into sex until the later ones.

If you'd rather not jump into the end of a series Laurel K. Hamilton's other more recent series of books has a lot of sex in it. So far the two titles in that series are A Caress of Twilight and A Kiss of Shadows. I may not have listed them in order just so you know.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-07-04 11:42am

LadyTevar wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote: Yes... the Non-Fiction book was a general "how to please your master", and listed many different scenarios for B&S/S&M lovers to act out.

Here's yet another disturbing revelation: According to Amazon.com's "author profile" of John Norman, he's a married man with three children!

:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:

This is quite strange, since I always assumed the sexism in a novel to be an indicator of the author's sexual dysfunction. Of course, he could have written most of his novels before he was married. He took a long break after the 25th Gor book IIRC. However, this fails to explain why a 26th one came out yesteryear.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-07-04 12:14pm

Well as Anne Mc Caffrey said, He's just a Perv because like Lewis Carrol, & Nabakov, Norman used to teach at an All Girls High School, before he started writting those books. At least he only wrote about what he wanted to do to his students..... (Lewis Carrol is severe scum for being a Child Molester/Pornographer) .....(Nabakov as far as I know had no "relations" with any of his students, and at least made Humbert so dispicable of a character rather then a hero.)

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-07-04 12:23pm

As someone said before me, pretty much any Harry Turtledove novel's got some for ya, there's also Asimov's late Foundation/Robot books

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-07-04 12:47pm

Regarding Lewis Carrol:
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_185.html

Anyway, the three versions of Kite are basically the original Japanese release, the original heavily edited American release, and then the slightly less edited director's cut.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-07-04 12:52pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:Well as Anne Mc Caffrey said, He's just a Perv because like Lewis Carrol, & Nabakov, Norman used to teach at an All Girls High School, before he started writting those books.

I thought this was an urban legend?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-07-04 01:45pm

Well Nabakov taught French & Russian, Rev. Chareles Dodgsob Taught Math, and Norman taught English...

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-07-04 02:54pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:Well Nabakov taught French & Russian, Rev. Chareles Dodgsob Taught Math, and Norman taught English...

I thought John Norman was a psychiatrist, not a schoolteacher.

(insert joke about Sigmund Freud)