Bruckheimer and Bay inflict another atrocity on the world

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-07-31 05:12pm

theski wrote:Here is the complete list work he has done... There is a lot of freaking money in this list....<snip>

Holy shit. This guy must be laughing all the way to the bank, especially with the all the money he made off of such SHITTY movies like Pearl Habor. The only movie he didn't make money off must've been Kangaroo Jack, of which I understand had more letters in its title then actual viewers.

All you have to do is go out there and make really awful movies that appeal to the masses, AND have ridiculously high budgets. I've discovered Bruckheimer's secret; I'm gonna be rich! *runs off to make crappy movies*

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-07-31 05:27pm

No, this is why they get made:

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.05/hollywood.html

Fuck that. If I ever actually get into the film industry, I'm going to steer clear of Hollywood. Some of the best movies ever were done independently; just look at Lord of the Rings. Nobody needs this Hollywood byzantine crap.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-07-31 05:52pm

HemlockGrey wrote:
No, this is why they get made:

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.05/hollywood.html
Fuck that. If I ever actually get into the film industry, I'm going to steer clear of Hollywood. Some of the best movies ever were done independently; just look at Lord of the Rings. Nobody needs this Hollywood byzantine crap.

even the snob filmakers know, you have to make some mildless pop tripe blockbusters. After a few of those you can bankroll the moving arthouse films on the human condition that no one but the goatee an toufu set will watch.

Dennis Toy · Post by **Dennis Toy** » 2003-08-01 02:35am

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Originally posted by Dennis Toy:
You all know, Jerry Bruckheimer produced the Beverly Hills Cop movies.
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The Beverly Hills Cop movies were good because of Eddy Murphy (back when he was still good), not because of Bruckheimer. And Black Hawk Down was good because of Ridley Scott, not because of Bruckheimer. Bruckheimer knows how to procure the resources that a director needs in order to get his project off the ground. However, we have seen quite clearly that he has no idea how to distinguish a good project from a bad one. If he produces a good movie, it's just dumb luck that he happened to choose a project that wasn't stupid.

Couple him with Bay, however, and you get guaranteed stupidity.

what about CSI?

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-08-01 05:28am

Dennis Toy wrote:what about CSI?

It sucks ass. It takes the topics of those dramatized TLC forensics shows, adds horribly written dialogue and has it read by actors who either suck major ass or aren't trying very hard. On the side, there's some "drama" between the characters. And it's supposed to be cool because it's in Vegas/Miami.

Striderteen · Post by **Striderteen** » 2003-08-02 12:03am

Tomb Raider 2 amused me for two reasons:

1. I have a long-running obsession with Lara Croft.

2. The movie features an ultra-rare, ultra-obscure Heckler & Koch P11 underwater pistol.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-08-02 11:56am

Robert Treder wrote:
Dennis Toy wrote:what about CSI?
It sucks ass. It takes the topics of those dramatized TLC forensics shows, adds horribly written dialogue and has it read by actors who either suck major ass or aren't trying very hard. On the side, there's some "drama" between the characters. And it's supposed to be cool because it's in Vegas/Miami.

I know you're upset about Bruckheimer getting so much money, so I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that.

Demiurge · Post by **Demiurge** » 2003-08-02 12:11pm

Robert Treder wrote:
Dennis Toy wrote:what about CSI?
It sucks ass. It takes the topics of those dramatized TLC forensics shows, adds horribly written dialogue and has it read by actors who either suck major ass or aren't trying very hard. On the side, there's some "drama" between the characters. And it's supposed to be cool because it's in Vegas/Miami.

I agree. It has some of the most boring and lifeless character I've ever seen.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-08-02 06:33pm

Darth Wong wrote:"Pearl Harbour", however, makes BB1 look like high art. It was a crime against humanity.

Tell me about it. I work with WWII veterans, and the week after that came out I got an earful from men who had been at Pearl Harbor about how historically inaccurate the movie was. Took about three months before they stopped griping.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2003-08-03 06:42pm

Hey, not all of Bruckheimers stuff was bad. I throughly enjoyed Kangaroo Jack and Enemy of the State.

The only big beef I have with his movies is the shitty camera work. All this fancy schmancy shit he has to do is nothing more than a waste of screen time.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-08-03 06:50pm

Vertigo1 wrote:Hey, not all of Bruckheimers stuff was bad. I throughly enjoyed Kangaroo Jack and Enemy of the State.

The only big beef I have with his movies is the shitty camera work. All this fancy schmancy shit he has to do is nothing more than a waste of screen time.

Bruckheimer isn't responsible for the camera work; he's a producer.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-08-03 06:51pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Robert Treder wrote:
Dennis Toy wrote:what about CSI?
It sucks ass. It takes the topics of those dramatized TLC forensics shows, adds horribly written dialogue and has it read by actors who either suck major ass or aren't trying very hard. On the side, there's some "drama" between the characters. And it's supposed to be cool because it's in Vegas/Miami.
I know you're upset about Bruckheimer getting so much money, so I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that.

I'm not upset at all; I say more power to him. But CSI is a horribly retarded show no matter which way you slice it.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2003-08-03 06:51pm

Robert Treder wrote:Bruckheimer isn't responsible for the camera work; he's a producer.

I know that. I only said thats what I hate about his movies....which is what I said in my previous post.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-08-03 07:29pm

HemlockGrey wrote:
No, this is why they get made:

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.05/hollywood.html
Fuck that. If I ever actually get into the film industry, I'm going to steer clear of Hollywood. Some of the best movies ever were done independently; just look at Lord of the Rings. Nobody needs this Hollywood byzantine crap.

Uh, LoTR was banked by New Line.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-08-03 07:40pm

Uh, LoTR was banked by New Line.

Shut up, I can't hear you, go Weta, go Kiwis, go indies, fight fight fight the power...