The movie Red Dawn

Lucius Licinius Lucullus · Post by **Lucius Licinius Lucullus** » 2003-09-03 10:34am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Of course you haven't! There's no such thing as a MiG-28.

They didn't have access to any real MiGs, so they had to improvise using some old F-5s...

Hmmm ...... maybe it was a bad attempt at irony from my side......

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-09-03 10:45am

You'd rather have them use outdated American planes with absolutely no resemblance to any Soviet aircraft and pass them off as MiG-23s or MiG-29s??

(the best they could have done was to pass off F-15s or F/A-18s as MiG-29s or Su-27s... however, that would be somewhat expensive since the F-15s and F/A-18s were still in frontline service by the time of "Top Gun" IIRC)

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-09-03 10:47am

It only fired a few rounds at the truck...and hit the truck. And it seemed to be more than 100m to me. The BMD-1 also was almost imeadiatly attacked and destroyed by a UH-1 Huey useing FFARs. Thats what saved the truck from being destroyed.

If a 73mm HEAT had hit the truck, we definitely would've known about it. In reality, it would've just used it's coax and sprayed those snotty kids off the truck in less the time it took that UH-1 to attack.

Vymple...that wasn't an M-1... it was an M-60(it was at least a tank that did NOT have the characteristic Flat top) at an estemated range of at least 1500-2000 meters.

No, it was an M1- I saw it relatively recently. Also, a T-72A and M1 (or M60A3, for that matter) firing at each other from 1,500-2,000m would hit each other on the first shot on a normal day and the second shot on a bad day. Instead, they fired at each other all day long.

Those paratroopers landing in the school yard were not russian..they were speaking spanish. (granted the shooting up the school was a BIT over much)

They were Russian VDV troops, again, my memory is quite clear. The movie producers knew enough to arm the VDV with AKS-74 (or kitbashes that looked like them) rather than the more common AKMs that equipped most of the Nicaraguan or Cuban or whatever they were troops.

And what is more stupid, is that I have never heard of MiG-28´s before or afther this movie.

They don't exist. Whoever thought up the name knew jack shit about Soviet/Russian designation practices- odd numbers are fighters only, even numbers are bombers only (with a few anomalies- like Tu-95, whoose actual designation is Tu-20).