computer WTF?!?

Hyperion · Post by **Hyperion** » 2002-10-06 11:29pm

here's the kicker, i can't, the latest version is for board revision V1.0 NOT V3.0!!! they have nothing for v3.0.

Hyperion · Post by **Hyperion** » 2002-10-06 11:33pm

actually it only does it after i play HL... and only with the on board NIC enabled, if that's disabled it stays operable, just crashes and no bios fuckups.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-10-06 11:44pm

Then take it back and get another one.

Hyperion · Post by **Hyperion** » 2002-10-06 11:53pm

but that would involve moving, and throwing an oddly shaped object thru a window.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-10-06 11:54pm

Mr Bean wrote:You buy you boards from Abit, Asus, and Soyo are the typical *Top three

Abit is no good. They put substandard capacitors on their motherboards which will eventually leak. It happened to my KA7-100, and I paid good money for that board.

Soyo is okay. Abit is head and shoulders above most of the crowd. Tyan is rock-solid, but lacking in features. Intel is the same way.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-10-07 12:01am

Ohhh...don't get me started on A-Bit and Gigabyte. Those two, aside from FIC, are the WORST motherboard manufacturers on the fucking planet! You wouldn't believe the ammount of complaints I've had to deal with because of their shotty boards. Gimme Asus anyday. Sure, you pay more but they actually LAST. My A7V has put up with alot and still keeps on ticking. Asus must use Timex components.

Hyperion · Post by **Hyperion** » 2002-10-07 12:10am

if i could get a NON-DDR A7V i would, but i can't.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-10-07 12:45am

Vertigo1 wrote:Ohhh...don't get me started on A-Bit and Gigabyte. Those two, aside from FIC, are the WORST motherboard manufacturers on the fucking planet! You wouldn't believe the ammount of complaints I've had to deal with because of their shotty boards. Gimme Asus anyday. Sure, you pay more but they actually LAST. My A7V has put up with alot and still keeps on ticking. Asus must use Timex components.

Well, ECS/PC Chips/whatever is worse than those three by far. I'd rate Gigabyte and FIC higher than Abit, if only because they actually bought decent capacitors.

Asus costs quite a bit of cash, but it is worth it. If I could, I'd just get a Tyan and be done with it, but that's even more money.

Hyperion · Post by **Hyperion** » 2002-10-07 12:49am

here's the kicker on Tyan, lower quality than ASUS, double or more the price. i checked, Tyan's dual AMD athlon MP board has lower ratings than the ASUS one.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-10-07 12:54am

I've heard of the exact opposite. Little to no overclockability, but rock-solid stability is what I hear of.

Hyperion · Post by **Hyperion** » 2002-10-07 01:01am

hmm... i've heard about same stability, but some issues with the bios on the Tyan board...

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-10-07 11:43am

Lately their quality control has been slipping a bit, but it's still better than even Asus.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-07 12:45pm

Waw waw waw
Cause my *SINGLE EXAMPLE happend all Abit Motherboards are shit! Cause this XXX happen Tyran are shit to

COMON PEOPLE THIS IS WHAT I DID FOR A LIVING
thats not an apele to authority unless I happen to be an authority on myself(Ha! My dog knows more about getting me to do stuff than I do)
I'm coming up on the ten year mark of hands-on computer experence like I said I've persenaly built and designed the better half of over three hundred computers and worked on the better part of a thousnad computers during that time, From Abit to Soyo I've worked with nearly every MB out there on the planet, Hell I picked a ABIT KT7A for my home computer(To become a Linux server next year when I upgrade, Oh and it will be to an Asus board, why? Better features nowadays)

Now fokes, think about this one here, DO you think I MIGHT have some shread of knowledge on the subject of computers having spent so much time with them/repariing them/working and upgrading them over the past few years

And do you also think that I might have gained some insight over those years on what each particular board was like having tested and tinkered with them for nearly eight years now?

Ok?(Or not Ok stop me if you got a problem)
So when I say to you, Prehaps a SINGLE example is not a good enough reason to completly discredit a company and forever excuded them from your list of places to buy BASED ON A SINGLE EXAMPLE?!?!

Ok sorry had to vent there

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-10-07 01:13pm

Hyperion wrote:if i could get a NON-DDR A7V i would, but i can't.

Wanna buy mine?

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-10-07 01:22pm

Bean: I've sworn off Gigabyte because not one, but SEVERAL of their boards have died on me. The only working one I've used is in my mother's comp running a Duron 800. Same for A-bit.

btw, I've been tinkering with comps since I was 8. I'm 21 now. Do the math.

Hell, I started out on a frelling Commodore 64!

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-07 01:32pm

Bean: I've sworn off Gigabyte because not one, but SEVERAL of their boards have died on me. The only working one I've used is in my mother's comp running a Duron 800. Same for A-bit

Aye, but what where the circumstance of these failures? I for example have instaled and built over ten ABIT NForce series of MB all running W2k for a Travel company, I never had to go out and fix a single problem and as far as I know, eight of them still have yet to crash on them, Hell they only called me once since then to fix a printer problem, and its been eight months
Gigabyte I've worked with alot but never used(I tended to use Asus, Abit or Soyo normaly)

I know what your talking about though my own KT7A gave me no fucking END of trouble with NIC cards until I gave up and dug out my trusty 3Com and tossed it in and its been gold for me for five months now on my super hypbrid, 98SE(Gaming/Typing)/Mandrake 7.1(Tweaking and programming)

btw, I've been tinkering with comps since I was 8. I'm 21 now. Do the math. Hell, I started out on a frelling Commodore 64!

Hell I know how to use Punch Card computers!

Boyah! My First Overclock was an Apple II!

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-10-07 01:39pm

Mr Bean wrote:Aye, but what where the circumstance of these failures?

Hell if I know. They just quit posting. I know its not the power supply since its running my Asus A7V just fine. (300W) Hell, a Deer 250W ran my A7V just fine. It even survived it blowing up! (it only took out my old Quantum 170MB and a mitsumi FDD)

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-10-07 09:08pm

Mr Bean wrote:Waw waw waw
Cause my *SINGLE EXAMPLE happend all Abit Motherboards are shit! Cause this XXX happen Tyran are shit to

The KA7 and KT7 motherboards have had that problem. More recent Abit boards have had problems. I've seen them plastered all over the ArsTechnica boards.

I'm sorry, but if a company gets so cheap as to use substandard capacitors, I don't think I'll trust them much anymore. It'll take quite a bit of effort to convince me to come back.

Hyperion · Post by **Hyperion** » 2002-10-07 09:11pm

the only credit i will give ECS is that they're good with online support. it was nearly realtime.