hypothetical question- US VS Israel- all out war

[Darth Raptor]

Drunken and badly sleep deprived, I too have wondered what it would be like if Fundie Christianity was actually true. It's scary, and it's not a reality I would like to dwell in either. But you should see some of the Armageddon movies they make. They're hilarious, and they're even better with alcohol! I can't make shit like that up, and the above is straight out of Left Behind.

[Darth Raptor]

Damn, I can't seem to keep my Christian scare propaganda straight. I'm actually not sure what movie that was from, but I saw it, and I laughed. The Christian Right actually does hold such views in regard to America's relationship with Israel though... Zionists are a peculiar flavor of religious nutcase.

[Crown]

This thread is bordering so close to spam it is not funny ...

Oh and as for US vs Israel; first step, cut off 'juniors' pocket money, see their economy colapse and their nation scattered to the four winds ... like the US even needed to field a military in this scenario.

[Darth Raptor]

This thread is bordering so close to spam it is not funny ...

Oh and as for US vs Israel; first step, cut off 'juniors' pocket money, see their economy colapse and their nation scattered to the four winds ... like the US even needed to field a military in this scenario.

Yeah, my fault. Sorry.

And their massive dependence on the US is an oft overlooked issue. Hell, if it did come to war, all we would have to do is IGNORE them and they will be brought to their knees via economic collapse and angry neighbors.

[Sarevok]

Not only would we have won the war but the losses inflicted on the Arab armies would have gutted them making them a non threat for many years to come. A real win-win for us.

I'm not sure if I could support that. While we would do our very best to target only legitimate military targets, you know some of the Arab armies would murder every Jewish man, woman, and child they could find. So unless the goal is genocide I wouldn't think that to be a good idea.

There would be some genocidial maniacs in the Arab armies but I dont most people would be like that. If the Arabs ever beat Israel(which is very unlikely) they would do the same thing Israel did to Palestianian. It would be ironic to see Jewish suicide bombers retaliate Arab crackdown in Tel Aviv.

[Ace Pace]

The US wins because of superior man-power. If it was equal numbers of planes fighting, I think it goes to Israel. But the US probably has superior troops and naval power for equal numbers.

Hmn, IIRC the last US + israel mock air battle, ended with a clear win to the US.


Once we might have been worth something, but today, pilots are trained how to hit the car correctly, not how to shoot down other planes

[Crayz9000]

Bite your toungues and gouge out your eyes! Surely you must realize that if America were to turn its back on the Chosen People(tm) That God Almighty would smite any Gentile who dare attack the Holy Land! It is only because we have befriended the master race that we have had such success so far! Our planes would fall out of the sky! Our missiles would detonate in their launch tubes and sandstorms and hurricanes would swallow our tanks and ships! Stop this blasphemy before His anger waxes hot and he rains His righteous wrath down upon us!

But we have iron chariots.

QED.

[Sothis]

I ask because someone on a chatroom on Yahoo has been arguing that in a one-on-one war, Israel would defeat the US.

Out of curiosity, what sort of justification is s/he using for this? Short of nuclear weapons, anyone can see Israel has no chanc, and nukes are forbidden in the OP.

To be honest, I'm not really sure. They just seem to think that Israeli air defences and planes will make short work of the USAF, and that therefore any invasion would lack air support and get bombed to pieces. I pointed out to him the many, many bombs and missiles that would land on Israel, but that didn't seem to strike him as important.

[Sothis]

For some fanciful reason (Israel stole the US plans for the Death Star), US declares war on Israel. Barring nukes, everything else is ok'd for combat.

I ask because someone on a chatroom on Yahoo has been arguing that in a one-on-one war, Israel would defeat the US. I think this a tad unlikely, and thought I would pose the question those more knowledgeable than myself.

Is this going on in one of the politics chat rooms? I use to participate in those debates a lot but now it's a dating service.

If so, what is the name of the chatter?

Grrrr, I can't remember their name... Fairfields, Fair... fair something, of that I'm sure.

[Sarevok]

I ask because someone on a chatroom on Yahoo has been arguing that in a one-on-one war, Israel would defeat the US.

Out of curiosity, what sort of justification is s/he using for this? Short of nuclear weapons, anyone can see Israel has no chanc, and nukes are forbidden in the OP.

To be honest, I'm not really sure. They just seem to think that Israeli air defences and planes will make short work of the USAF, and that therefore any invasion would lack air support and get bombed to pieces. I pointed out to him the many, many bombs and missiles that would land on Israel, but that didn't seem to strike him as important.

The IAF relies heavily on American weaponry and technology. It is laughable they could beat their true masters who designed their airplanes. The USAF is more advanced and has better pilots than Israels air force.

[Ace Pace]

To be honest, I'm not really sure. They just seem to think that Israeli air defences and planes will make short work of the USAF, and that therefore any invasion would lack air support and get bombed to pieces. I pointed out to him the many, many bombs and missiles that would land on Israel, but that didn't seem to strike him as important.

Read my earlier post, thats my basis to the fact the IAF would lose.

[LT.Hit-Man]

Well since nukes are out of the question I'd say Israel gets turned into a chemical biologcal wasteland.

Why send troops to get killed when the US could just load up a few hundread ICBM's with chem/bio weapons and send Israel some hate mail

[Wicked Pilot]

Why send troops to get killed when the US could just load up a few hundread ICBM's with chem/bio weapons and send Israel some hate mail

We already answered that question. If the goal was genocide, then we'd get the Arab armies to do our dirty work for us, leaving them in such a terrible shape afterwards that we end up killing two birds with one stone.

[The Aliens]

Not to mention Chemical and Biological weapons are going to make a whole lot of people angry, where letting Arab hordes in and saying 'Oops. Well, don't blame us, we didn't know that was going to happen,' won't. Chem/Bio weapons are going to end up losing the next election and possibly starting a global anti-U.S. war, where letting in the Arabs will cause the 'Somebody Else's Problem Field' to activate.

[LT.Hit-Man]

Why send troops to get killed when the US could just load up a few hundread ICBM's with chem/bio weapons and send Israel some hate mail

We already answered that question. If the goal was genocide, then we'd get the Arab armies to do our dirty work for us, leaving them in such a terrible shape afterwards that we end up killing two birds with one stone.

I know that but I'm talking about the US doing there own drity work and not having to relie on anyone, say the cuase for the war was for personal reasons like say Israel for what ever reason pulled a 9-11 on the US I bet you that the US would want to deal with there personaly themselves wainting some pay back in person that's how I'd do it if I was the prez of the US

[Lt. Dan]

I think you should make it more fair like the U.S.M.C. vs Israel. That would be better, U.S.M.C. has tanks and planes and ground troops. It would be like a mini-U.S.