Trouts fake orgams....

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2004-01-10 12:16am

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2002/05/17/trout_orgasm020517

Female trout faking orgasms
Last Updated Fri, 17 May 2002 20:23:54

GOTEBORG, SWEDEN - Swedish scientists have found that female brown trout fake orgasms in about half of their spawnings.

Most coy female tricked the males eight times before the real spawning
Erik Peterrson of Sweden's National Board of Fisheries said out of 117 spawnings they observed, 69 were false orgasms.

During a normal spawning, the female digs a gravel pit for the eggs. When she prepares to mate, she crouches down to protect the nest, opens her mouth and starts to quiver intensely.

The male then swims alongside the female, assumes the same position,opens his mouth and starts to quiver as well.

After a few seconds, the female releases her eggs and the male fertilizes them.

But the researchers found that sometimes the female fakes it and doesn't release her eggs when the male releases his sperm.

Peterrson said the sperm have to be directly over the eggs or the fertilization rate is very low. He thinks the female fakes it if the male isn't in exactly the right position.

Confused males

"If she feels he is not in the right position or timing, she just stops the process," Peterrson said to CBC Radio's As It Happens. "But the male, he is so excited that he misinterprets the female's cues and goes the whole way. He's a little bit tricked there."

He added the male looks a little confused because when the female fakes orgasm, she doesn't cover the eggs as she would during a normal spawning.

Instead, she may dig some more to prepare the gravel pit for the next mating in about 30 minutes.

* MORE SCIENCE NEWS:cbc.ca/science

And it seems trout aren't alone. Researchers first saw this in Atlantic salmon in 1954. They now think it's common in all salmon.

It's old, but new to me, so I thought I'd share. Apologies if it's been posted already.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-01-10 12:23am

ROFLMAO.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-01-10 12:27am

The kind of upbringing that would inspire someone to research this is beyond me.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-01-10 12:30am

that's . . . .just. . . .bizarre. yet strangely funny.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2004-01-10 02:09am

Talk about cold fish.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-01-10 03:48am

Wow, I had no idea that trout were such tricky minxes.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2004-01-10 03:54am

Gil Hamilton wrote:Wow, I had no idea that trout were such tricky minxes.

We now know two important things about animal mating:

First, we know that humans are not the only animals who mate for pleasure as well as reproduction (dolphins, some primates)
Second, we know that humans are not the only animals who fake orgasms.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-01-10 05:51am

This just makes me suspicious of all females of all species.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2004-01-10 06:03am

I wonder if women learned it from trouts or vice versa?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-01-10 06:20am

Aya wrote:I wonder if women learned it from trouts or vice versa?

It's really a vast female conspiracy. Involving every species on the face of the earth that has separate genders.

A conspiracy I say.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2004-01-10 12:13pm

neoolong wrote:This just makes me suspicious of all females of all species.

Why should other species matter?

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » 2004-01-10 01:03pm

This news better not leak to the male trout. Then again, that may be why they swim upstream and kill themselves.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-01-10 01:15pm

SyntaxVorlon wrote:
neoolong wrote:This just makes me suspicious of all females of all species.
Why should other species matter?

Because all females stick together. Duh.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-01-10 02:04pm

They communicate telepathically with every other female on the planet. It's a proven fact.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2004-01-10 09:36pm

Not only did the study revealed that, it also revealed that researchers nowadays have too much time on their hands...

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2004-01-11 12:02am

neoolong wrote:
SyntaxVorlon wrote:
neoolong wrote:This just makes me suspicious of all females of all species.
Why should other species matter?
Because all females stick together. Duh.

Oh. I thought you might be getting desparate.

researchers nowadays have too much time on their hands...

Hand.

[Edit]I just wanted to clear up the meaning there[/edit]

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-01-11 12:38am

The practical applications of this information are astonishing.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2004-01-11 12:41am

HemlockGrey wrote:The practical applications of this information are astonishing.

Doubtless, even if there were, they would be.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2004-01-11 01:31am

Aya wrote:I wonder if women learned it from trouts or vice versa?

They probably adapted that tactic to hide their eggs from predators.

Kinda like sea turtles did multiple nest sites before they lay the real deal, to keep the Dingos guessing.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-01-12 01:13am

SyntaxVorlon wrote:
neoolong wrote:
SyntaxVorlon wrote: Why should other species matter?
Because all females stick together. Duh.
Oh. I thought you might be getting desparate.

Hand.

I'm sure you have much more experience with that than I do. Since that is what you were thinking of.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2004-01-12 02:07am

Clarification made.

Rathark · Post by **Rathark** » 2004-01-12 02:29am

I trust there were no trout in Finding Nemo ...

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2004-01-13 10:46pm

Now that's just weird. I'm afraid now.