The "Peak Oil" prophecy

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2004-01-29 04:01am

Matt Savinar wrote:Civilization as we know it is coming to an end soon. This is not the wacky conclusion of a religious cult, but rather the result of diligent analysis sourced by hard data and the scientists who study global “Peak Oil” and related geo-political events.

Life After The Oil Crash

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-01-29 04:19am

Nuclear is currently being abandoned globally. Its ability to soften the oil crash is very problematic due to accidents and terrorism. Many more reactors would be needed. Tons of radioactive materials to transport at risk to public. Nuclear waste disposal is still the major, unresolved problem, especially breeder reactors producing plutonium a nuclear weapon/terrorist raw material, half-life contamination is 24,000 years. All abandoned reactors are radioactive for decades or millennia. Nuclear is not directly suitable for aircraft and vehicles. Adapting nuclear to make hydrogen or other fuels would be a huge, and energy-expensive project. Nuclear fusion is still not available, after 40 years? research and billions of dollars invested.

This alone makes him sound like a dickhead. More anti-nuclear bullshit- I like it how in all these power-generation doomsayer rubbish they discount nuclear purely because they know how 'taboo' it is.

Comosicus · Post by **Comosicus** » 2004-01-29 05:02am

Looks like we'll be all playing a giant "Fallout: A Post Nuclear Role-Playing game"

Anyway I think there is some truth in the facts about oil crisis.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2004-01-29 09:01am

*sigh* As if I needed something ELSE to be paranoid about. Christ. What about methanol?we make standard imperial assloads of extra corn each year. Double yoo tee eff? Fuck. Time to get the old Vespa out of storage. I need something that will make 50 MPG.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-01-29 09:11am

Chardok wrote:*sigh* As if I needed something ELSE to be paranoid about. Christ. What about methanol?we make standard imperial assloads of extra corn each year. Double yoo tee eff? Fuck. Time to get the old Vespa out of storage. I need something that will make 50 MPG.

Methanol fucks engines up real good, it's not a viable alternative.

Jojoba oil is, however, since it is a good biodiesel and easily made from certain vegetable extracts.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2004-01-29 09:33am

Fucking...just *FUCK* SHIT! HELLFUCKSHITDAMN! I'm gonna go hang out with Shep. Shep, I'm bringing the .223 start stockpiling the Ramen.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-01-29 09:37am

metric assloads of nuclear reactors = cheap electricity = less oil consumption

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-01-29 09:46am

Chardok wrote:Fucking...just *FUCK* SHIT! HELLFUCKSHITDAMN! I'm gonna go hang out with Shep. Shep, I'm bringing the .223 start stockpiling the Ramen.

I sense much angst.

Col. Crackpot wrote:metric assloads of nuclear reactors = cheap electricity = less oil consumption

And let's not forget nuke powered 50m tall robots of doom. I look forward to those the most.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-01-29 10:51am

Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Chardok wrote:Fucking...just *FUCK* SHIT! HELLFUCKSHITDAMN! I'm gonna go hang out with Shep. Shep, I'm bringing the .223 start stockpiling the Ramen.
I sense much angst.

Col. Crackpot wrote:metric assloads of nuclear reactors = cheap electricity = less oil consumption
And let's not forget nuke powered 50m tall robots of doom. I look forward to those the most.

surly the Tri-lateral commission will use those to keep us in line once the we pass the peak oil mark! Those and the 100m long fusion powered black helocopters.

Alex Moon · Post by **Alex Moon** » 2004-01-29 01:29pm

Just another bunch of crackpots.

Here's an interesting timeline of oil predictions.
http://www.radford.edu/~wkovarik/oil/5o ... story.html

• 1919, Scientific American notes that the auto industry could no longer ignore the fact that only 20 years worth of U.S. oil was left. "The burden falls upon the engine. It must adapt itself to less volatile fuel, and it must be made to burn the fuel with less waste.... Automotive engineers must turn their thoughts away from questions of speed and weight... and comfort and endurance, to avert what ... will turn out to be a calamity, seriously disorganizing an indispensable system of transportation."

Predictions like these keep cropping up, but never pan out. The people who make them are for the most part scare mongers who are looking to make a buck pandering to those who want there to be doom and gloom.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-01-29 01:38pm

However, there has been a steady decline in the number of new fields found since the '60s, I believe and it is estimated that we will hit a peak production rate within the next couple of decades. Some oil will also always be beyond our grasp.

When, not if, we reach that peak, hell breaks loose. Whether we're prepared for it or not is another matter.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2004-01-29 01:47pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote: And let's not forget nuke powered 50m tall robots of doom. I look forward to those the most.

The HAB eagerly awaits those, as well.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-01-29 06:12pm

Frank Hipper wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote: And let's not forget nuke powered 50m tall robots of doom. I look forward to those the most.
The HAB eagerly awaits those, as well.

Yes, so HMS Thunderchild can obliterate them all.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2004-01-29 10:11pm

Alex Moon wrote:Just another bunch of crackpots.

Here's an interesting timeline of oil predictions.
http://www.radford.edu/~wkovarik/oil/5o ... story.html

• 1919, Scientific American notes that the auto industry could no longer ignore the fact that only 20 years worth of U.S. oil was left. "The burden falls upon the engine. It must adapt itself to less volatile fuel, and it must be made to burn the fuel with less waste.... Automotive engineers must turn their thoughts away from questions of speed and weight... and comfort and endurance, to avert what ... will turn out to be a calamity, seriously disorganizing an indispensable system of transportation."
Predictions like these keep cropping up, but never pan out. The people who make them are for the most part scare mongers who are looking to make a buck pandering to those who want there to be doom and gloom.

It seems that every time someone predicts something and says it will happen in x amound of years, it never happens and decades later, people still say that it will happen in x amount of years, like those out-of-date science textbooks that say the rainforests will be gone in 2000, or the people in the 50's and 60's who thought we'd have flying cars and robot maids by now.

I've heard the statistic that we'd run out of oil in about a century thrown around, and hopefully, it doesn't end up that way and reserves will last us longer, or we have an laternate source of fuel by then. I can imagine that it would wreck nations whose economies depend on oil, assuming that such places still exist then.