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Jesus fucking Christ, I'm striking about half of you off my dinner invitation lists. I feel bad when I have to stomp a Goddamn spider.
My worst actions are usually sins of omission. There are a couple times when certain people I think really needed me and I wasn't there for reasons that seem incredibly stupid and selfish today. It's not quite torturing small animals to death, but some of that guilt is going to stick with me for years, maybe forever.
My worst actions are usually sins of omission. There are a couple times when certain people I think really needed me and I wasn't there for reasons that seem incredibly stupid and selfish today. It's not quite torturing small animals to death, but some of that guilt is going to stick with me for years, maybe forever.
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You obviously haven't.KrauserKrauser wrote:Because God knows no one can ever learn from their actions there Wong.Darth Wong wrote:Another "compassionate conservative", I see. How incongruous.
God forbid someone might dare look down on the sort of person who tortured pets as a child.Get off the fucking high horse and quit it with the holier than though attitude.
Obviously. And yes, I have never tortured a pet. I guess that makes me "holier than thou". Oh wait a minute, it actually does, doesn't it?Yes I have done some bad things in my lifetime, while I am certain you considered your actions to be as clean as the wind driven snow I can't state myself to be so pure.
How does any of this change the fact that you tortured a pet as a child?My we should all just bow down and worship in front of you for your glorious piety and wisdom. Such comments are unto those from Plato and Aristotle in their wisdom and understanding.
Oh I'm so horribly stung by your rapier wit. The fact is that you are a heartless conservative, and you did torture a defenseless animal as a child and enjoyed it, and those two facts just happen to be synergistic. Not my problem if you lash out at someone who dares point out the facts (another common trait of conservatives lately, I might add).Yes Wong I am a conservative and in the past have done non-good acts and therefore I sure am glad that a man like you exists to mock me and show me the error in my ways. Please Wong never let me forget the fact that you are truly the greatest man in the universe for you have never done an evil act. Truly everone reading this thread should send offerings befitting your glorious purity. Thank you O' Mighty Wong, I'll always remember your glorious wit.
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I never knew you knew me there Wong, I'm glad I have a new found friend. It's good to know that someone knows you so well as to say that you still like to hurt things anddo evil acts. Oh wait you don't know me at all, as such you have no right to say such things as the fact that I have not learned that hurting living beings for the sheer enjoyment of is wrong. Yes I did bad things when i was young. Are you saying you did not?Darth Wong wrote:You obviously haven't.KrauserKrauser wrote:Because God knows no one can ever learn from their actions there Wong.Darth Wong wrote:Another "compassionate conservative", I see. How incongruous.
I don't like hamsters. I like guennia(sp?) pigs, cats, dogs, fish, birds, insects, snakes not so much and most of the rest of the animal kingdom. I think fish are both fun to look at and tasty. I like cows, I like horses, I do however have a distaste for hamsters. I don't know what it is but I have a distinct hole in my heart for hamsters. While I may have mistreated them in the past I have made my peace with them and leave them alone accordingly. And no if one happened to happen by me I would not go out of my way to cause it harm, whether I would help it out, yeah I probably would, I do have feelings of remorse for the actions I took against the hamster.God forbid someone might dare look down on the sort of person who tortured pets as a child.Get off the fucking high horse and quit it with the holier than though attitude.
I am glad to see that you rank a child mistreating an animal as the worst crime in all of humanity, member of PETA yet? I can get them in contact with you if need be.Obviously. And yes, I have never tortured a pet. I guess that makes me "holier than thou". Oh wait a minute, it actually does, doesn't it?Yes I have done some bad things in my lifetime, while I am certain you considered your actions to be as clean as the wind driven snow I can't state myself to be so pure.
Of all the people that have decided to reveal personal stories about themselves that they are not proud of you have chosen me to lean on because of my political affiliation? Ok, that's fine. I'm glad to see someone so willing to label themselves a biggot. Yes I am a conservative, yes, when was young I did cause harm to an animal. Do I regret it, yes I wish that I had left well enough alone and let him be. What gives you the right to single me out other than just being a vindictive prick? What the hell Wong? Are conservatives not welcome on your message board? Did this thread at any point need any involvement in politics? My post was not flamebait, no more so than any of the other stoires on this thread. Mike, seriously are you that angry at me?How does any of this change the fact that you tortured a pet as a child?My we should all just bow down and worship in front of you for your glorious piety and wisdom. Such comments are unto those from Plato and Aristotle in their wisdom and understanding.Oh I'm so horribly stung by your rapier wit. The fact is that you are a heartless conservative, and you did torture a defenseless animal as a child and enjoyed it, and those two facts just happen to be synergistic. Not my problem if you lash out at someone who dares point out the facts (another common trait of conservatives lately, I might add).Yes Wong I am a conservative and in the past have done non-good acts and therefore I sure am glad that a man like you exists to mock me and show me the error in my ways. Please Wong never let me forget the fact that you are truly the greatest man in the universe for you have never done an evil act. Truly everone reading this thread should send offerings befitting your glorious purity. Thank you O' Mighty Wong, I'll always remember your glorious wit.
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What the hell did I do? Exist? I posted a story, simple as that. You decided to make a quip remark about me and my character and I was offended. I then retaliated with very emotional statements as I did not believe that my post merited such a reply. I know that my comments were not made to offend and have at all times in this reply tried to remain level headed and not resort to either the "wounded" tactic or remain on the offensive and if anyone belives that I did, then I apologize. *EDIT* And after reading it over, yeah I guess I did go a little on the wounded side *EDIT*
Mike you made the harsh remark, you brought politics into this and I am sorry that you feel you need to make every thread you see into a conservative bashing argument. I was of the opinion that such topics might covered in say the news and politics forum but hey, you're the boss. Though I sure do hope you can calm the fuck down and stop on this conservative bashing crusade. I really like this site and honestly I do like the arguments that we get into on it. While I may not agree with you on many issues, you are usually able to explain your position, though sometimes in a bit of raw nature and are usually able to get your point across. If I offended you, well what the fuck? Seriously what the fuck?
I recognize that my earlier sections of this response are still me being a bit angry at the thrashing you decided to give me, but wow Mike you must have a serious hard on for hating conservatives.
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Not as bad as torturing a pet, no. The fact that you actually find the statement "I never tortured pets as a child" to be some kind of arrogant holier-than-thou statement says an awful lot about you.KrauserKrauser wrote:I never knew you knew me there Wong, I'm glad I have a new found friend. It's good to know that someone knows you so well as to say that you still like to hurt things anddo evil acts. Oh wait you don't know me at all, as such you have no right to say such things as the fact that I have not learned that hurting living beings for the sheer enjoyment of is wrong. Yes I did bad things when i was young. Are you saying you did not?
Do you understand why you felt pleasure at its pain and terror? Has that part of your personality been excised?I don't like hamsters. I like guennia(sp?) pigs, cats, dogs, fish, birds, insects, snakes not so much and most of the rest of the animal kingdom. I think fish are both fun to look at and tasty. I like cows, I like horses, I do however have a distaste for hamsters. I don't know what it is but I have a distinct hole in my heart for hamsters. While I may have mistreated them in the past I have made my peace with them and leave them alone accordingly. And no if one happened to happen by me I would not go out of my way to cause it harm, whether I would help it out, yeah I probably would, I do have feelings of remorse for the actions I took against the hamster.
So if it's not the "worst crime in all of humanity" I have no right to say it's bad? Nice black/white fallacy, jackassI am glad to see that you rank a child mistreating an animal as the worst crime in all of humanity, member of PETA yet? I can get them in contact with you if need be.
So I'm a "bigot" if I point out that someone who tortured a pet as a child just so happens to be one of those conservatives who jokes about "glassing" entire peoples when they piss him off? How pathetic; it didn't take you long to resort to the B-word, did it?Of all the people that have decided to reveal personal stories about themselves that they are not proud of you have chosen me to lean on because of my political affiliation? Ok, that's fine. I'm glad to see someone so willing to label themselves a biggot.
What gives me the right to speak my mind and criticize someone else's past actions and present attitudes? Hmm, how about the constitution, the UN universal declaration of human rights, and most major schools of ethical thought?Yes I am a conservative, yes, when was young I did cause harm to an animal. Do I regret it, yes I wish that I had left well enough alone and let him be. What gives you the right to single me out other than just being a vindictive prick?
Sure they are, as long as they can defend their claims. You, unfortunately, cannot. So you resort to empty accusations of "bigotry" which will fool no one.What the hell Wong? Are conservatives not welcome on your message board?
Speak for yourself. I tossed off a one-liner and you decided to turn it into flamewar.Did this thread at any point need any involvement in politics? My post was not flamebait, no more so than any of the other stoires on this thread. Mike, seriously are you that angry at me?
No, you gave evidence that you were a cruel little child, which happened to dovetail nicely with your demonstrably amoral attitude recently displayed in anothet forum.What the hell did I do? Exist?
For someone who lambasts liberals for being too easily "offended", this is pretty fucking funny.I posted a story, simple as that. You decided to make a quip remark about me and my character and I was offended. I then retaliated with very emotional statements as I did not believe that my post merited such a reply.
Your comments were insults, you idiot. How were they "not made to offend?"I know that my comments were not made to offend and have at all times in this reply to remain level headed and not resort to either the "wounded" tactic or remain on the offensive and if anyone belives that I did, then I apologize.
I don't. I participate in a great number of threads and do not turn all of them into conservative-bashing arguments. If you disagree, please feel free to produce statistical analyses of my posting history and correlate it with these political thread-hijacks you claim I do in "every thread". You obviously choose to see something that isn't there because of your irrational fucktard nature.Mike you made the harsh remark, you brought politics into this and I am sorry that you feel you need to make every thread you see into a conservative bashing argument.
Wow, you freak out and write a long-winded post bashing somebody because he threw out a one-liner and you are shocked, SHOCKED that he bashes right back? I see that you're obviously an imbecile.I was of the opinion that such topics might covered in say the news and politics forum but hey, you're the boss. Though I sure do hope you can calm the fuck down and stop on this conservative bashing crusade. I really like this site and honestly I do like the arguments that we get into on it. While I may not agree with you on many issues, you are usually able to explain your position, though sometimes in a bit of raw nature and are usually able to get your point across. If I offended you, well what the fuck? Seriously what the fuck?
No, you must have a serious persecution complex. Get over yourself.I recognize that my earlier sections of this response are still me being a bit angry at the thrashing you decided to give me, but wow Mike you must have a serious hard on for hating conservatives.
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Darth Wong wrote:Not as bad as torturing a pet, no. The fact that you actually find the statement "I never tortured pets as a child" to be some kind of arrogant holier-than-thou statement says an awful lot about you.KrauserKrauser wrote:I never knew you knew me there Wong, I'm glad I have a new found friend. It's good to know that someone knows you so well as to say that you still like to hurt things anddo evil acts. Oh wait you don't know me at all, as such you have no right to say such things as the fact that I have not learned that hurting living beings for the sheer enjoyment of is wrong. Yes I did bad things when i was young. Are you saying you did not?
It tells you that I at one time in my life was not kind to animals. I am kind to animals now and in fact love dogs. I however have chosen to not like hamsters. That is my choice on the matter.
I am not a socio-path. I did hurt a hamster when I was young. I do not hurt animals now. I learned that hurting animals is wrong and that well it's just mean. Yes, I did do this as a kid and yese I did learn from my actions. I hope you don't expect some kind of pound of flesh admonition from me on this matter. I seriously don't like hamsters, psychoanalyse it all you want. I more than likely felt good becuase of the terror I incited as some sort of pwer complex as my parents were very over bearing, loving but over bearing whether or not one can ever completely excise such a feeling is a question for a psychatrist to answer.Do you understand why you felt pleasure at its pain and terror? Has that part of your personality been excised?I don't like hamsters. I like guennia(sp?) pigs, cats, dogs, fish, birds, insects, snakes not so much and most of the rest of the animal kingdom. I think fish are both fun to look at and tasty. I like cows, I like horses, I do however have a distaste for hamsters. I don't know what it is but I have a distinct hole in my heart for hamsters. While I may have mistreated them in the past I have made my peace with them and leave them alone accordingly. And no if one happened to happen by me I would not go out of my way to cause it harm, whether I would help it out, yeah I probably would, I do have feelings of remorse for the actions I took against the hamster.
Point takenSo if it's not the "worst crime in all of humanity" I have no right to say it's bad? Nice black/white fallacy, jackassI am glad to see that you rank a child mistreating an animal as the worst crime in all of humanity, member of PETA yet? I can get them in contact with you if need be.
Ok, I am sorry I called you a biggot. I do not know you that well. I do know that you are not a conservative and do not like conservative ideas/opinions. I do know that I am conservative. I do know that I posted on this thread. I do know that you replied with an insult aginast my character. I do know that you mentioned the fact that I am conservative and decided to harp on it as another quip at my character and an jab at my fellow conservatives. I do know that you did not do this to all the other people that have admitted to harming animals in their past. I took this as an indicator that you wanted to single me out as "extra special meany 01" because I was a vocal conservative on the board. If I offended you, I had no right to do so, I am simply seeking an apology for your insult as I feel it was unwarranted given the lack of personal insults directed at the other memebrs that have posted like actions on this thread.So I'm a "bigot" if I point out that someone who tortured a pet as a child just so happens to be one of those conservatives who jokes about "glassing" entire peoples when they piss him off? How pathetic; it didn't take you long to resort to the B-word, did it?Of all the people that have decided to reveal personal stories about themselves that they are not proud of you have chosen me to lean on because of my political affiliation? Ok, that's fine. I'm glad to see someone so willing to label themselves a biggot.
Very true, and I have every right to be offended and reply in kind.What gives me the right to speak my mind and criticize someone else's past actions and present attitudes? Hmm, how about the constitution, the UN universal declaration of human rights, and most major schools of ethical thought?Yes I am a conservative, yes, when was young I did cause harm to an animal. Do I regret it, yes I wish that I had left well enough alone and let him be. What gives you the right to single me out other than just being a vindictive prick?
I may chosen an incorrect and inflammatory word in calling you a "biggot", I was simply trying to find a word to eximplify your choice to single me out and insult me.Sure they are, as long as they can defend their claims. You, unfortunately, cannot. So you resort to empty accusations of "bigotry" which will fool no one.What the hell Wong? Are conservatives not welcome on your message board?
I was hurt by your one liner and decided to defend myself. I may happen to be a little verbose when my pride/character is hurt but do so to fully express my feelings on the matter.Speak for yourself. I tossed off a one-liner and you decided to turn it into flamewar.Did this thread at any point need any involvement in politics? My post was not flamebait, no more so than any of the other stoires on this thread. Mike, seriously are you that angry at me?
Ok Mike, you say you have a sense of humor. In your replies to my very statements you have apealled to humor many times. I said to glass I raq as a joke. I do not feel comfortable with the actions currently taking place in Iraq, doubly so as I fear for my father's safety as he is currently an accountant in Iraq. As a result I resort to humor ro relieve my discomfort. If you took my statement seriously then please understand it was in fact in jest. I do not wish any harm to come to the civilians in Iraq. They have the same rights to live as myself and well Mike, it was a joke. Ha Ha and all that. Maybe a bit of dark humor but humor none the less.No, you gave evidence that you were a cruel little child, which happened to dovetail nicely with your demonstrably amoral attitude recently displayed in anothet forum.What the hell did I do? Exist?
When did I lambast liberals for being easily offended. Evidence please.For someone who lambasts liberals for being too easily "offended", this is pretty fucking funny.I posted a story, simple as that. You decided to make a quip remark about me and my character and I was offended. I then retaliated with very emotional statements as I did not believe that my post merited such a reply.
Yes, they were. I am sorry for that. However you did insult me. I was fairly emotional in my reply and passion does not mix well when trying to simply get an apology.Your comments were insults, you idiot. How were they "not made to offend?"I know that my comments were not made to offend and have at all times in this reply to remain level headed and not resort to either the "wounded" tactic or remain on the offensive and if anyone belives that I did, then I apologize.
Thank you for calling me a "fucktard." That was very kind of you. I may have overstated your "bashing" preferrences and will work on the statistical analysis in my spare time, fat chance of that happening .I don't. I participate in a great number of threads and do not turn all of them into conservative-bashing arguments. If you disagree, please feel free to produce statistical analyses of my posting history and correlate it with these political thread-hijacks you claim I do in "every thread". You obviously choose to see something that isn't there because of your irrational fucktard nature.Mike you made the harsh remark, you brought politics into this and I am sorry that you feel you need to make every thread you see into a conservative bashing argument.
I simply expected you to realize that I was offended by your statement. If it is board policy to be willing to simply take insults from the board owner and not try to retaliate in a like manner, albeit much more long winded in my case, then I will have to re-evaluate why read this board. My statements were inflammatory in nature, they were an emotional reaction to being insulted. I am sorry I allowed my emotions to cloud my desire to recieve an apology for being insulted.Wow, you freak out and write a long-winded post bashing somebody because he threw out a one-liner and you are shocked, SHOCKED that he bashes right back? I see that you're obviously an imbecile.I was of the opinion that such topics might covered in say the news and politics forum but hey, you're the boss. Though I sure do hope you can calm the fuck down and stop on this conservative bashing crusade. I really like this site and honestly I do like the arguments that we get into on it. While I may not agree with you on many issues, you are usually able to explain your position, though sometimes in a bit of raw nature and are usually able to get your point across. If I offended you, well what the fuck? Seriously what the fuck?
OK Mike, you are right my reply was long winded, it was somewhat spiteful, and I might just have somewhat of a persecution complex. That is all true. I will try to keep this concise and to the point.No, you must have a serious persecution complex. Get over yourself.I recognize that my earlier sections of this response are still me being a bit angry at the thrashing you decided to give me, but wow Mike you must have a serious hard on for hating conservatives.
You insulted me.
I took offense.
I would like an apology.
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I had no idea that so many people here tortured animals as children. I could NEVER do something like that and live with myself.
I suppose the most heartless thing I ever did was when I was involved in a relationship in high school with a girl that I had tried to break up with, but was utterly obsessed with me. I had tried to let her down easy, then hard, but she still wouldn't leave me alone. In my desperation, I called up a friend of mine (who was also a friend of hers and I knew he had a big mouth) and told him that I had just banged a different girl at school which was someone that the girl who was obsessed with me hated.
Lo and behold, twenty minutes later I got a call from her screaming how disapointed she was with me. She hung up the phone and we never spoke again, but I've always felt a little bad about how I handled that.
I had no idea that so many people here tortured animals as children. I could NEVER do something like that and live with myself.
I suppose the most heartless thing I ever did was when I was involved in a relationship in high school with a girl that I had tried to break up with, but was utterly obsessed with me. I had tried to let her down easy, then hard, but she still wouldn't leave me alone. In my desperation, I called up a friend of mine (who was also a friend of hers and I knew he had a big mouth) and told him that I had just banged a different girl at school which was someone that the girl who was obsessed with me hated.
Lo and behold, twenty minutes later I got a call from her screaming how disapointed she was with me. She hung up the phone and we never spoke again, but I've always felt a little bad about how I handled that.
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Wow, you're an idiot! I eat everything that I kill, and I have the utmost respect for all wild game, I'd hazard to say that I have orders of magnitude more respect than you, seeing as though I'm carrying out a function of a healthy predator/prey environment, and filling the role that has been filled by humans in my home area for thousands of years. I'd also bet that I've done a helluva lot more for conservation and environmental efforts than you have ever considered doing. That hundred dollar sportsmans license I buy each year, well, every penny goes to the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency for funding law enforcement and for conservation efforts. I have hands on experience in reestablishing species who have been long gone from my area (such as the wild turkey), and planting food plots for wild animals.Killing doesn't really go well with respect I'm afraid.Hunting and fishing goes along with a deep respect for the game
Deer = enhanced senses of smell, ability to see movement much clearer than most humans, camoflage more effective than most camo you can buy, speed that makes it impossible for a man to run one down. If you think that it's "easy" to stalk a wild big game animal, then you're dead wrong. It's one of the most difficult things to do, and your a moron for thinking that it's not fair chase.Deer don't pack heat, so no it isn't fair at all.and a sense of fairness in the chase.
And I just love the way you keep proving that your brain is composed of scattered pieces of lint. You don't hunt for the animals head, you hunt for the meat first and foremost. If the animal has a large rack or other remarkable feature, then I see nothing wrong with using an otherwise unused portion of the animal for a memory of the hunt. Now go get your head out of your ass, it's obvious the methane and lack of oxygen is killing brain cells.I just love the way you've tried to seperate hunters and poachers with sappy sentimental rubbish. So according to you the difference between poaching for elephant tusks and hunting for an animals head to put on your wall is "respect"? Bullshit.If you don't have that, then you aren't a hunter, you're a poacher, one of the lowest of the low.
You couldn't insult me more than by suggesting I am a poacher. I despise those who poach game against common decency and with disrespect towards the animal. You can kindly go screw yourself.
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I personally do not classify my hunting as cruelty to animals. Were I to not hunt them they would simply die of starvation as previous generations have killed off all their natural predators. So given the choice of letting them die of starvation and be wasted or killing a controlled number every season and eating the meat that they provide, I choose to control the deer population with a rifle instead of well, starvation.
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Wong, I'm with krauser on this one. What someone does in childhood does NOT automatically determine what kind of person they are today.
Anticipating a claim that you might make, something along the lines that you knew better as a child, I respond with this. That's you. People mature at different rates. I didn't start my true maturation until I was well into my teens.
So his political views are different. So (unless I'm mistaken) he's said something along the lines of being in favor of pointless war. So...fucking...what. That's a complete non-sequitar. The point being made was his feelings towards other animals, and how they've changed over the years. You have refused to address the latter and only continued to rail on the former.
Other than that, I have no argument with your posts. It looks as though, other than that one point, Krauser has said nothing that I agree with. I feel I should make that statement to deter anyone from automatically assuming I am in complete, or even remotely complete support of Krauser's position.
Okay, back to the actual topic of the thread:
In this case, I consider 'evil' as meaning 'something I would be quite morally opposed to doing today'. Thus, without further adiu...
Childhood (from sentience to, say, about 10)...
Numerous instances of cruelty and pointless massacres of arthropods, some reptiles, and a few small mammals. (Strangely enough, even then I would absolutely refuse to harm a cat. A double-standard? Sure, but I claim partial-exemption due to immaturity.)
Adolescence (10-16)...
Trying to fit in. Sure, it doesn't sound bad, until you consider what it entails. In my case, it involves mindlessly joining the 'popular' kids in making anyone who doesn't conform to their norm feel like absolute shit, for years on end. I still feel a shitload of guilt for my actions then, and probably won't be able to make it up for several years to come.
Maturation (16-now [20])...
Let's see...
-I don't voluntarily kill *anything*, except under extreme circumstances (detailed below).
-I go out of my way to defend the civil rights of everyone, even people I don't like, and outright despise.
-I've given a big 'fuck you' to popularity, mass-media, corporate bullshit, government bullshit, and anything else that degrades life of any kind.
Now, I have killed, to memory, a total of two organisms completely voluntarily in the past five years.
The first one was a baby raccoon. It's mother lay dead and rotting in a gutter on the other side of the street. It was hairless, starved, diseased, and blind. I smashed it's head with a large rock. Gruesome and messy, but very quick and quite painless. I don't think it was too concerned about how distasteful or messy its death was, as long as the pain stopped.
The second one was a finch. The thing had somehow gotten itself trapped between two steel plates, and had torn a centimeter deep gash in its neck (considering that finches are about seven/eight centimeters long, this is a rather deep gash). When I picked it up, it was too exhausted to even bite me. I took it into the garage, wrapped a towel around it, and smashed its head with a sledgehammer. Afterwards, I took it into the woods, and put it on the ground as a meal for anything else that may have passed by.
Now, if anyone wants to try and convince me that ending something's terminal agony in a second by crushing its nerve center with a large, heavy object is more than welcome to. Since I've started writing, and since this is one of the half-dozen things in my life that will get an overt emotional reaction from me, I am now more than itching for some callous fuck-wipe to try and tell me that making a mess out of some creature's brains is worse than letting it suffer in agony.
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I personally think it's highly questionable that you would fail to address the fact that Krauser stated, quite well, several times, that he felt bad about what he did when he was young, and that he feels quite differently now. Why are you failing to address the fact that the person he is now is not the same person he was when he was too fucking young to know better?Darth Wong wrote:God forbid someone might dare look down on the sort of person who tortured pets as a child.
Anticipating a claim that you might make, something along the lines that you knew better as a child, I respond with this. That's you. People mature at different rates. I didn't start my true maturation until I was well into my teens.
So his political views are different. So (unless I'm mistaken) he's said something along the lines of being in favor of pointless war. So...fucking...what. That's a complete non-sequitar. The point being made was his feelings towards other animals, and how they've changed over the years. You have refused to address the latter and only continued to rail on the former.
Other than that, I have no argument with your posts. It looks as though, other than that one point, Krauser has said nothing that I agree with. I feel I should make that statement to deter anyone from automatically assuming I am in complete, or even remotely complete support of Krauser's position.
Okay, back to the actual topic of the thread:
In this case, I consider 'evil' as meaning 'something I would be quite morally opposed to doing today'. Thus, without further adiu...
Childhood (from sentience to, say, about 10)...
Numerous instances of cruelty and pointless massacres of arthropods, some reptiles, and a few small mammals. (Strangely enough, even then I would absolutely refuse to harm a cat. A double-standard? Sure, but I claim partial-exemption due to immaturity.)
Adolescence (10-16)...
Trying to fit in. Sure, it doesn't sound bad, until you consider what it entails. In my case, it involves mindlessly joining the 'popular' kids in making anyone who doesn't conform to their norm feel like absolute shit, for years on end. I still feel a shitload of guilt for my actions then, and probably won't be able to make it up for several years to come.
Maturation (16-now [20])...
Let's see...
-I don't voluntarily kill *anything*, except under extreme circumstances (detailed below).
-I go out of my way to defend the civil rights of everyone, even people I don't like, and outright despise.
-I've given a big 'fuck you' to popularity, mass-media, corporate bullshit, government bullshit, and anything else that degrades life of any kind.
Now, I have killed, to memory, a total of two organisms completely voluntarily in the past five years.
The first one was a baby raccoon. It's mother lay dead and rotting in a gutter on the other side of the street. It was hairless, starved, diseased, and blind. I smashed it's head with a large rock. Gruesome and messy, but very quick and quite painless. I don't think it was too concerned about how distasteful or messy its death was, as long as the pain stopped.
The second one was a finch. The thing had somehow gotten itself trapped between two steel plates, and had torn a centimeter deep gash in its neck (considering that finches are about seven/eight centimeters long, this is a rather deep gash). When I picked it up, it was too exhausted to even bite me. I took it into the garage, wrapped a towel around it, and smashed its head with a sledgehammer. Afterwards, I took it into the woods, and put it on the ground as a meal for anything else that may have passed by.
Now, if anyone wants to try and convince me that ending something's terminal agony in a second by crushing its nerve center with a large, heavy object is more than welcome to. Since I've started writing, and since this is one of the half-dozen things in my life that will get an overt emotional reaction from me, I am now more than itching for some callous fuck-wipe to try and tell me that making a mess out of some creature's brains is worse than letting it suffer in agony.
-Damien
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I do not see what you have against Conservatives Darth Wong ; this isin't a dictatorship, people are allowed to have different political views, and leaning to one side does not automatically make them into amoral persons.
Anyway, I was treated rather cruelly during my elementary school years, and so when I was in 7th grade, I made an undeclared pledge to have my revenge on everyone who wanted to be mean to me. As such, I've been an unsentimental ass to most people. I put down those who are less intelligent than me, but my favourite activity is to burst the bubble of those egocentric asses at school, who brag on and on about their marks, their wealth, their families, etc... Ah, the best is when I break it to their "audience" that it's all a bag of lies.
I did this one particularly heartless thing in seventh grade, when I was being verbally harrassed by a bunch of kids, especially this one pompous girl. At this time, they thought they could take advantage of me (especially because I liked Star Wars ), so I decided to put an end to 4 years of this cruelty. I walked up to this girl and pulled her hair, telling her to shut the fuck up.
As I walked back to my chair, she attacked me and began kicking me, all while her friends were cheering her on. I was a little scared and so I was crouched in a ball, but then something came over me, and I suddenly became extremely focused. In one swift motion, I stood up and roundhouse punched her in the face. She fell straight to the floor. The room went silent. I was lucky that the supervisor (it was at a field trip) never told the teacher what happened, or else I would have been in so much shit. The girl had a black eye though, and from then on she and her friends had a newfound respect for me. I feel little remorse over that particular act, as it is what has gotten me my reputation for being a cold-hearted person.
I'm actually called heartless on a regular basis. I blame it all on those elementary school assholes. Now who's the top dog?
Anyway, I was treated rather cruelly during my elementary school years, and so when I was in 7th grade, I made an undeclared pledge to have my revenge on everyone who wanted to be mean to me. As such, I've been an unsentimental ass to most people. I put down those who are less intelligent than me, but my favourite activity is to burst the bubble of those egocentric asses at school, who brag on and on about their marks, their wealth, their families, etc... Ah, the best is when I break it to their "audience" that it's all a bag of lies.
I did this one particularly heartless thing in seventh grade, when I was being verbally harrassed by a bunch of kids, especially this one pompous girl. At this time, they thought they could take advantage of me (especially because I liked Star Wars ), so I decided to put an end to 4 years of this cruelty. I walked up to this girl and pulled her hair, telling her to shut the fuck up.
As I walked back to my chair, she attacked me and began kicking me, all while her friends were cheering her on. I was a little scared and so I was crouched in a ball, but then something came over me, and I suddenly became extremely focused. In one swift motion, I stood up and roundhouse punched her in the face. She fell straight to the floor. The room went silent. I was lucky that the supervisor (it was at a field trip) never told the teacher what happened, or else I would have been in so much shit. The girl had a black eye though, and from then on she and her friends had a newfound respect for me. I feel little remorse over that particular act, as it is what has gotten me my reputation for being a cold-hearted person.
I'm actually called heartless on a regular basis. I blame it all on those elementary school assholes. Now who's the top dog?
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In that case, I must remark that you've certainly chosen an appropriate avatar.Stravo wrote:I was having an affair with a married woman... <Snip>
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The only times I am called "heartless" now is through my dealings in MtG trading. It might sound a bit silly but serious money can be amde in decent trading. I personally feel little to no remorse in removing a person from their cards if they do not know their value. "A Chimney Imp ($0.02 card) for that Chrome Mox ($20.00 card)? You sure? Ok then." Is the kind of thing that others have seen adn accused me of being heartless for it.
I guess it does smack a little bit of evil but at what point do you excuse stupidity. When I was younger this was done to me and I get it just desensitized me to doing the same thing, not to kids as that is dispicable.
I guess it does smack a little bit of evil but at what point do you excuse stupidity. When I was younger this was done to me and I get it just desensitized me to doing the same thing, not to kids as that is dispicable.
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oh good im not the only one, i saw the second plane hit live cause im an insomniac so when i woke up next morning i kept channel surfing every few minutes in case something else was on. there wasnt2000AD wrote: "So some planes crashed into the world trade centre, can we have something else on TV now?"
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Well, back in kindergarten, I refused to let some kid play with the wooden blocks, because he couldn't make a machine gun sound like I could.
In about grade 3, some girl wanted to play with beast wars toys with me and my friends. I said no, and kicked her in the shins, forcing her to leave. I don't know why I did it either, and I had pretty much forgotten about it until the girl reminded me in high school.
When my friend and I had gotten a double gulp from 7 11, we couldn't seem to finish it. Since we had biked down, we couldn't bring it home, so I insisted we get our money's worth out of the beverage, and drink as much as we could before disposing of it. As he gulped it down, I couldn't help but notice that not a whole lot was being drunk, so when he tried to stop drinking it and breathe, I simply said: "drink moooore" and held the pop up to his face. His only way out was to push the drink away and when he did so pop got all over him. It was a rather cold bike ride home for him I must say.
Although this was an accident, it was rather cruel. I was aiming one of those toy guns with the suction cup darts for ammunition, up at my brother's face. He turned to face me, and it startled me, causing me to pull the trigger and send the dart into his eye. I was out of that house in about one and a half seconds. Minutes later, my brother opened the front door holding his eye and dropped the gun to the ground. It was of course in several pieces. I waited outside for another good 5 minutes before risking entering the house again.
In about grade 3, some girl wanted to play with beast wars toys with me and my friends. I said no, and kicked her in the shins, forcing her to leave. I don't know why I did it either, and I had pretty much forgotten about it until the girl reminded me in high school.
When my friend and I had gotten a double gulp from 7 11, we couldn't seem to finish it. Since we had biked down, we couldn't bring it home, so I insisted we get our money's worth out of the beverage, and drink as much as we could before disposing of it. As he gulped it down, I couldn't help but notice that not a whole lot was being drunk, so when he tried to stop drinking it and breathe, I simply said: "drink moooore" and held the pop up to his face. His only way out was to push the drink away and when he did so pop got all over him. It was a rather cold bike ride home for him I must say.
Although this was an accident, it was rather cruel. I was aiming one of those toy guns with the suction cup darts for ammunition, up at my brother's face. He turned to face me, and it startled me, causing me to pull the trigger and send the dart into his eye. I was out of that house in about one and a half seconds. Minutes later, my brother opened the front door holding his eye and dropped the gun to the ground. It was of course in several pieces. I waited outside for another good 5 minutes before risking entering the house again.
Deliberately tried to harm someone thru alcohol abuse.... (ie spiking drinks)...
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"no prizes for guessing 'the colour of the grass on the otherside' or the time on the moon" - Either Nick, Rye or Tony.
"your pills your grass your tits your ass"
" i pitty teh poor foo's that have to suffer Troy's anti-plan field"
"Escaped mental patients make better lovers" - Graffiti near Uni.
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Since my best friend doesnt/wont ever post here i decided to tell his storys
When he was in the 2nd grade the teacher decided to pick on him, badly, and only him. So one particullarly bad day after the teacher insulted him and his family, he picked up his chair and threw it at her head. That put her on notice from the school for harrassing a student and in the hopspital for a few days. 2 weeks later she returned and harrassed him even more. So once again he threw the chair, a few days later (after the hospital) the teacher was suspended, then later expelled from teaching after harrassing another student.
his favorite pastime so far is trying to make some of the more fragile women at our school cry for a while, by telling them horrible news, (ex how many people are dying as they are talking and every day) and other horrible stuff on days like easter, valentines day, x-mas.....any day where people have happy feelings
When he was in the 2nd grade the teacher decided to pick on him, badly, and only him. So one particullarly bad day after the teacher insulted him and his family, he picked up his chair and threw it at her head. That put her on notice from the school for harrassing a student and in the hopspital for a few days. 2 weeks later she returned and harrassed him even more. So once again he threw the chair, a few days later (after the hospital) the teacher was suspended, then later expelled from teaching after harrassing another student.
his favorite pastime so far is trying to make some of the more fragile women at our school cry for a while, by telling them horrible news, (ex how many people are dying as they are talking and every day) and other horrible stuff on days like easter, valentines day, x-mas.....any day where people have happy feelings
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Rule #2. if it serves no purpose, burn it.
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Rule #2. if it serves no purpose, burn it.
"No one is taller then the last man standing" - unknown
"Don't run, you'll only die tired" - Shark Bait
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I get pretty apathetic to just about anything.
"Ok, the WTC fell. Where's my regular TV?"
I have never hurt an animal on purpose. Though once I accidentally stood on my cat's paw. She was ok.
"Ok, the WTC fell. Where's my regular TV?"
I have never hurt an animal on purpose. Though once I accidentally stood on my cat's paw. She was ok.
"Oh no, oh yeah, tell me how can it be so fair
That we dying younger hiding from the police man over there
Just for breathing in the air they wanna leave me in the chair
Electric shocking body rocking beat streeting me to death"
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That we dying younger hiding from the police man over there
Just for breathing in the air they wanna leave me in the chair
Electric shocking body rocking beat streeting me to death"
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"I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately."
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Goddamn that reminds me........nah.....better not say......AnimeJet wrote:it invovles hamsters in hamster balls and a small game of catch...
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"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
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That's pretty much what happened with me.Embracer Of Darkness wrote:I feel the worst about in my entire life because it was so sick and twisted. I still have that cat, and ever since I realised that what I did was evil, I've loved her to bits and treated her alot better than I treat 99% of humans.
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
Wow, a poorly spelled stupid comment. I never thought I'd see one of those.
Hint: vulturing is not really considered a good thing, nor is hijacking an apolitical thread into a partisan shitfest.
Hint: vulturing is not really considered a good thing, nor is hijacking an apolitical thread into a partisan shitfest.
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