Tarot, Palms, Other Clairvoyancies (& Homosexuality?)

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-21 10:20am

Young ebnough??? I can't wait until I'm OLD enough!!!

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2002-10-21 10:27am

Open-mindedness is the only way you can believe in most anything. That and a really good imagination.

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2002-10-21 10:29am

verilon wrote:Young enough??? I can't wait until I'm OLD enough!!!

Heh. People who actively believe in ghosts don't last two seconds at something like that. The last episode I saw was on the USS Hornet. Man, I would have liked that. Even late at night and bouncing around with a camera strapped to my body.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-21 10:32am

See the thing is, there are dangerous ghosts, and there are those that aren't. I don't really care all that much about the money...I CAN be a thrill-seeker from time to time (not very often, but it happens)...and this is one thing I would just want to do for the hell of it. One. Prolly never again after that, tho...at least, not for the hell of it.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-21 12:29pm

verilon wrote:Two things while I am digging up this thread:

First, to Lag: I did not offer a challenge to Durandal...he challenged my views. Let's let it rest at that, no more discussion on the topic, please...I've had enough defending myself. (I could still do, it, I'm just sick and tired of it)

You insist on stating your superstitions as fact. On this board, that is the equivalent of putting a big red bulls-eye on your back. You should know that.

I was wondering as well if there is some sort of thing going on here...a lot of females I know are clairvoyant, or seers of some sort. Also, there is a large portion of gay people that happen to have these abilities as well. I wanted to know if anybody thought there might be a connection here? I mean, I don't know *any* straight guys that have this talent...

Maybe females are not taught to value objectivity as much as males are. This would dovetail with the well-known cultural aversion to females excelling in math and science (even when a woman has the talent, she may choose not to because society pressures women not to be good in math and science).

My opinions, my thoughts. Answer if you will, but please don't bash on me.

If you would admit that your beliefs are based on faith and have no objective or rational basis, I don't think anybody would object. But when you state superstition as fact and tell Lagmonster that he's "bullshitting" himself for not seeing what you say he saw, you're basically asking for it, are you not?

Larz · Post by **Larz** » 2002-10-21 03:14pm

Darth Wong wrote:
verilon wrote:Two things while I am digging up this thread:

First, to Lag: I did not offer a challenge to Durandal...he challenged my views. Let's let it rest at that, no more discussion on the topic, please...I've had enough defending myself. (I could still do, it, I'm just sick and tired of it)
You insist on stating your superstitions as fact. On this board, that is the equivalent of putting a big red bulls-eye on your back. You should know that.
I was wondering as well if there is some sort of thing going on here...a lot of females I know are clairvoyant, or seers of some sort. Also, there is a large portion of gay people that happen to have these abilities as well. I wanted to know if anybody thought there might be a connection here? I mean, I don't know *any* straight guys that have this talent...
Maybe females are not taught to value objectivity as much as males are. This would dovetail with the well-known cultural aversion to females excelling in math and science (even when a woman has the talent, she may choose not to because society pressures women not to be good in math and science).
My opinions, my thoughts. Answer if you will, but please don't bash on me.
If you would admit that your beliefs are based on faith and have no objective or rational basis, I don't think anybody would object. But when you state superstition as fact and tell Lagmonster that he's "bullshitting" himself for not seeing what you say he saw, you're basically asking for it, are you not?

Gotta agree with Wong, your starting to be rather forcive with your beliefs. You believe in ghosts and clarivoyence well and good, you argue it as a faith system good for you, but to argue it as a factual, rational system... then you start to be an arse. Accept that what you believe is exactly that, your beliefs, and don't try to prove people wrong using a psuedo science. There is another type of person that does what your starting to do verilon, that person is a fundie christian... just lay off trying to prove your beliefs as fact.

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2002-10-21 04:37pm

I don't personally have a problem with verilon telling me that I'm kidding myself and I'm actually seeing ghosts instead of just hearing the normal clacks and clanks of the universe coupled with some funky electrical or electromagnetic phenomena. There's been a large mass of pro-supernaturalists I've had to interact with as a consequence of my interest in folklore, and they're usually at least as insistant that you believe what they believe. I have often supposed that since religionists and supernaturalists have no observable support for their beliefs, that they aggressively seek the agreement of other people as personal justification.

At any rate, verilon, Lord Wong is right; hereabouts being reminded that you're being irrational is your warning to bow out of the argument graciously; people here do not make such an offer twice.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-22 01:54am

Lagmonster wrote:I don't personally have a problem with verilon telling me that I'm kidding myself and I'm actually seeing ghosts instead of just hearing the normal clacks and clanks of the universe coupled with some funky electrical or electromagnetic phenomena. There's been a large mass of pro-supernaturalists I've had to interact with as a consequence of my interest in folklore, and they're usually at least as insistant that you believe what they believe. I have often supposed that since religionists and supernaturalists have no observable support for their beliefs, that they aggressively seek the agreement of other people as personal justification.

At any rate, verilon, Lord Wong is right; hereabouts being reminded that you're being irrational is your warning to bow out of the argument graciously; people here do not make such an offer twice.

You know what? I only need one person to make this point. I failed to see that WHEN I POSTED, and therefore had to keep going with it....all you guys are doing is reiterating what Wong already stated.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-10-22 04:19am

Kelly Antilles wrote:Just like all goths are gay/bi/lesbians... granted that's MOSTLY true.

LOL!!! I've seen that fer real...

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-22 04:23am

EmperorMing wrote:
Kelly Antilles wrote:Just like all goths are gay/bi/lesbians... granted that's MOSTLY true.
LOL!!! I've seen that fer real...

To quote a friend:

"My girlfriend asks me why I go to the Coven [monthly goth industrial underground rave] . . . scantily clad lesbians getting it on on the dance floor."

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-10-22 04:24am

weemadando wrote:
EmperorMing wrote:
Kelly Antilles wrote:Just like all goths are gay/bi/lesbians... granted that's MOSTLY true.
LOL!!! I've seen that fer real...
To quote a friend:

"My girlfriend asks me why I go to the Coven [monthly goth industrial underground rave] . . . scantily clad lesbians getting it on on the dance floor."

Exactly.

Also why I hang out with the fetish crowd. Wanna see the pics?

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-22 04:29am

Ummm... What kind of fetishists are we talking here?

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-22 04:40am

weemadando wrote:Ummm... What kind of fetishists are we talking here?

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-10-22 04:44am

Dare Ware 2002 fetish party....

Larz · Post by **Larz** » 2002-10-22 11:10am

How.. did this topic turn to fetishes?!?.... oh kay :: wanders off not wanting to get involved in this depravity line of thought ::

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-10-22 11:14am

Thread hijack.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

P.S. I'll pm you the links if you want...

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-22 11:30am

You can't really call it a hijack...it just kinda went...off-base, that's all!