A Gay Forum

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-02-14 10:59am

SAMAS wrote:Well that depends on how many lesbians we have here.

So lets say, for the sake of argument, we have one lesbian and one bisexual woman. Would they be invited?

Spoonist · Post by **Spoonist** » 2003-02-14 11:00am

No thank you.

We don't want the gay community to go back into the closet.
It is better if the 'too much info' crowd gets used to the fact that there are gay people out there and that gay people *ghasp* actually fall in love with people of their own gender...

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-02-14 11:02am

Spoonist wrote:No thank you.

We don't want the gay community to go back into the closet.
It is better if the 'too much info' crowd gets used to the fact that there are gay people out there and that gay people *ghasp* actually fall in love with people of their own gender...

Uhm, I think you're reading way to much into a proposal for a private club forum on a sci-fi debate board.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-14 11:03am

I think that there are enough forums, particularly private ones.

No Boys Allowed! is kind of required so the female residents have a place where they can talk about things that they really can't bring up in the public forums, be they private, personal, or just threads that us guys would just fuck up.

Besides, where else are they suposed to have their slumber parties and pillow fights in their underwear?

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-02-14 11:03am

Spoonist wrote:No thank you.

We don't want the gay community to go back into the closet.
It is better if the 'too much info' crowd gets used to the fact that there are gay people out there and that gay people *ghasp* actually fall in love with people of their own gender...

That's exactly right.
As well as all the 'what exactly would you talk about' questions

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-02-14 11:13am

innerbrat wrote:
Spoonist wrote:No thank you.

We don't want the gay community to go back into the closet.
It is better if the 'too much info' crowd gets used to the fact that there are gay people out there and that gay people *ghasp* actually fall in love with people of their own gender...
That's exactly right.
As well as all the 'what exactly would you talk about' questions

It's not like the homosexuals on the board would be ghettoized into posting just in that forum. I don't think the creation of a forum for women on the board was the cybernetic equivlant of tossing all of us into the gyneceum, either.

I can understand how it might be considered irrelevant, but surely there are important, interesting, or simply relevant topics that could be discussed there and are not suitable elsewhere. If the majority of the homosexuals on the board want such a forum -- then I shall support the majority opinion in this case and argue in its favour.

Indeed, if a forum is meant to cater to a specific group of people, and a majority of that group want it, it is not unreasonable for them to be granted the demand. It's not special privilages. When Sheppard gets back he could theoretically gather enough support for an "Angry White Men USA" private forum or something.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-02-14 11:32am

So what are the criteria for deleting a sex thread?

Its sexualy explicite, describes sexual acts in detail, photos of said activites or any sort of how to guides
For example if Wong posted a "How to do Anal Correctly" or similar thread in a public forum , under TOS I would be my job as a Super-Mod to delete that thread or move it someplace where it is allowed(A private pass-word protected forum for example like the BOTM)

Frankly folks, there IS No reason for yet another forum that would not serve any purpose, rather even those who would be memebers of said forum if it where made, can't think of anything it could be used for
Currently we have

Brotherhood of the Monkey-Home of the Sexualy Deprived and otherwise naughty-thoughts

The Mess Hall-Home to our Military Comrades in arms

The ATF-Troll Defense

The AIIF- which is now mostly defunct

And the Women's only board which I don't know the name of as its COMPLETLY private, Only the Ladies and Lord Wong can access it but even he does not, as there are several topics which women can talk frankly about but cause even the most jaded of men to scream incorenitly and claw out their eyes

So agian I ask, can anyone give me a good solid reason for a gay forum? And notice I said a good reason, Majority vote will not cut it here folks, I'm guessing a majority of people here wish they had Adminstrator powers but I don't think your gonna be getting them anytime soon

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-14 11:55am

I think people have presented some interesting reasons not to have a gay forum, but at the same time, I don't think the gay members of the board need to justify themselves if they want one. The only question is whether they do, in fact, want one.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-14 11:56am

Mr Bean wrote:Its sexualy explicite, describes sexual acts in detail, photos of said activites or any sort of how to guides. For example if Wong posted a "How to do Anal Correctly" or similar thread in a public forum , under TOS I would be my job as a Super-Mod to delete that thread or move it someplace where it is allowed(A private pass-word protected forum for example like the BOTM)

Actually, porno should be moved. But a thread about how to do anal correctly is NOT pornographic; it is sexually orientated INFORMATION and would belong in the OT forum. If we used this criterion, then sex education would be illegal in the public schools (of course, some people think it should be, but that's their problem).

If you click on "register", it lays out the definition of pornography which is used on this board. And since I understand that Verilon has gone and removed pornographic images from the BOTM in order to avoid having to dump all their underage members, there really isn't that much difference between the BOTM and the regular board.

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-02-14 11:57am

Would bisexuals be allowed in?

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-02-14 12:00pm

IG-88E wrote:Would bisexuals be allowed in?

Yes.

BTW you just outed yourself to the WHOLE BOARD! LOL

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-02-14 12:02pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
IG-88E wrote:Would bisexuals be allowed in?
Yes.

BTW you just outed yourself to the WHOLE BOARD! LOL

So what? There are already plenty who know.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2003-02-14 12:04pm

Darth Wong wrote:And since I understand that Verilon has gone and removed pornographic images from the BOTM in order to avoid having to dump all their underage members, there really isn't that much difference between the BOTM and the regular board.

Um, what do you mean by that?

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-02-14 12:08pm

IG-88E wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
IG-88E wrote:Would bisexuals be allowed in?
Yes.

BTW you just outed yourself to the WHOLE BOARD! LOL
So what? There are already plenty who know.

I knew.
When a guy who has a girlfirend starts posting in the gorgeous men thread, then he's probably bi.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-14 12:08pm

XaLEv wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:And since I understand that Verilon has gone and removed pornographic images from the BOTM in order to avoid having to dump all their underage members, there really isn't that much difference between the BOTM and the regular board.
Um, what do you mean by that?

I dunno, I was under the impression that any pictures explicitly showing genitalia were removed. Pictures which just show a bit of frontal nudity like breasts are not pornographic.

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-02-14 12:10pm

innerbrat wrote:I knew.
When a guy who has a girlfirend starts posting in the gorgeous men thread, then he's probably bi.

NTM my crush on Boromir.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2003-02-14 12:11pm

Darth Wong wrote: I dunno, I was under the impression that any pictures explicitly showing genitalia were removed. Pictures which just show a bit of frontal nudity like breasts are not pornographic.

I was under the impression that such things were not allowed in the first place, no matter what forum they were posted in.

Is pubic hair included in the definition of explicit?

Larz · Post by **Larz** » 2003-02-14 12:13pm

I suppose he did, but the BoTM is the pit of depravity of this board still, but I'd still like to know what would be discussed in such a private board that couldn't be discussed in public? Call it plain curiosity (being as, if such a forum is made, I'll never see it). All I can imagine going on in a Homosexual Forum is nothing more but homosexual BoTM stuff... and use small words please, my head is throbing (stupid 6 page gender segregation essay with 4 sources...)

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-02-14 12:14pm

XaLEv wrote:I was under the impression that such things were not allowed in the first place, no matter what forum they were posted in.

Is pubic hair included in the definition of explicit?

I beleive it's up to the Mod's discretion.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-02-14 12:16pm

I believe everyone knows my answer to this question...

Yes, please!

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-02-14 12:19pm

Darth Wong wrote:I think people have presented some interesting reasons not to have a gay forum, but at the same time, I don't think the gay members of the board need to justify themselves if they want one. The only question is whether they do, in fact, want one.

Well, thanks. In my mind it's a bit of an irrelevancy as to purpose. If it's wanted and the request is not extreme (considering we just fried two private boards as I recall the space shouldn't be a factor), why not? The example I pointed out with Sheppard was more-or-less my Libertarian bias: I'd support this for any such group, of course.

You're the dictator around here, naturally, but I believe the concept of Anarcho-Authoritarianism ought apply quite nicely..

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-02-14 12:28pm

it is sexually orientated INFORMATION and would belong in the OT forum. If we used this criterion, then sex education would be illegal in the public schools (of course, some people think it should be, but that's their problem).

To be fair Sex education inculdes graphic images though since their of medical nature it just scates by

But back to the point at hand everyone, Why have a gay forum if our gay memebers can't even name a reason for having one?
Why don't we have a Aussy only forum? We have enough fokes to have one but would it serve any useful purpose?

Remeber SD.NET is all about the discussion of sci-fi, science, and mockery of stupid people. That was the orgional goal and we mostly achived it through livley disscusions between everyone

All private forums do is take away from this disscusion and spread it out, to the determinet of all

Frankly all, to get back to the previous example(Be prepared)
If we have a Gay only forum?
Why not an Aussy only?
And a Brit only?
And an America only
And a German only?
We have enough memebers so that we have execellent justification for any of those yet we don't, Why?
Because it takes away from the whole, the more you spread things out the weaker overall it becomes

Take for example the recent possible No-Confidence about the Aussy Prime Min, If our Aussy only forum had exisited, likley we would have had a much shorter disscusion than the six pages we managed after the American's chimed in their viewpoints and started asking questions and giving everyone involved a much clearer picture of Aussy Land politics along with some thought provoking discussion on International Relations

Think about it(And I'm still waiting for a reason on why we need a Gay forum to begin with, I can name alot of reasons not to, as I just did, but I have yet to hear one for it)

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-02-14 12:42pm

A reason for it? While never getting any negative responces to it, I'm still not overly comfortable posting explicitly gay material. I know people read it and say to themselves, "I didn't need to hear that".
I don't believe anyone has a response to explicitly Aussie, Brit, German, Finnish, or Swedish content in quite the same way.
I'm a shameful closet-case in real life. Yes, I could go find a gay board out there somewhere, but I'm a member here, and knowing I could post anything not too distasteful in a gay forum would be highly desirable.

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-02-14 01:03pm

In that case, since it seems that we don't really have a place to talk about gay issues. I don't see a lot of goings-on and talking about gay issues, except with the gay community. There are plenty who support, but not many who would consider taking action. A lot of the time, it is only questions about homosexuality that are said by straight members, when I know there are gay members that would take into consideration actually doing something out in the real world. I suggest that it could be a place for talking about gay rights issues without cluttering up the OT forum when many people don't pay attention, and sometimes don't care. Furthermore, I suggest that it be a safe haven for ranting about it when certain people decide to thrash in public forum.

Bean, there are a lot of things that are, as of yet, unplanned, but you also need to realize that there is much you don't know about gay people. I know that it could also be used for topics such as, how to help others come out, or things like that. There are a lot of things it could be used for. If those two reasons aren't good ones, I don't know of anything that is.

Oh, by the way, this is a good place to go. Did you know some gay forums are just as discriminating against closet-cases as straights are to opens?

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-02-14 01:06pm

Oh, by the way, this is a good place to go. Did you know some gay forums are just as discriminating against closet-cases as straights are to opens?

Something I've run into IRL.

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