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So far so good, Mike. Let me know if this holds out, I've been toying with the idea of hosting something on my own craptastic machine, and if you can handle SD.net on a home LAN, I can probably get by.
Much luck and may Bob The Small God bless your server!
Much luck and may Bob The Small God bless your server!
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Do you have automatic log in? And do you have an SDnet cookie on your machine?Temjin wrote:That's weird.
Every time I go to the forum index, I automatcially get logged out. But my name still appears on the Who's Online list.
Is this happening to anyone else?
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I think I figured out the problem.Rob Wilson wrote:Do you have automatic log in? And do you have an SDnet cookie on your machine?
Since the main link was down earlier, I was using the alternate and I didn't know the main link was working again. Now that I'm using the main link, the problem seems to be fixed.
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Actually, I'm from Canada.Rob Wilson wrote: Ah another UK resident. I have on occasion averaged 40-50 GBs a day for a few weeks while I've been out of town and left Kazaalite running (you should have seen the list of uploads) and nary a word from my ISP. Yep NTL may have newserver problems but they haven't let me down on the upload download front. BT would have had a small fit at that and doubtless demanded blood!
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oh, it's just that BT over here (the only real ADSL provider) has a bandwidth cap similar to the one you described. Anyway, as part of the Commonwealth, we own you so nyaahxtreme wrote:Actually, I'm from Canada.Rob Wilson wrote: Ah another UK resident. I have on occasion averaged 40-50 GBs a day for a few weeks while I've been out of town and left Kazaalite running (you should have seen the list of uploads) and nary a word from my ISP. Yep NTL may have newserver problems but they haven't let me down on the upload download front. BT would have had a small fit at that and doubtless demanded blood!
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"The officers can stay in the admin building and read the latest Tom Clancy novel thinking up new OOBs based on it." Coyote
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"The officers can stay in the admin building and read the latest Tom Clancy novel thinking up new OOBs based on it." Coyote
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We'll with less then twenty people on its running as fast as ever for me, the limit is my 56K connection. I doubt that will last when we reach the afternoon in North America.
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With 61 it was running smooth and thats 3/4s the maximum it's ever had at one time, so it bodes well.Sea Skimmer wrote:We'll with less then twenty people on its running as fast as ever for me, the limit is my 56K connection. I doubt that will last when we reach the afternoon in North America.
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"The officers can stay in the admin building and read the latest Tom Clancy novel thinking up new OOBs based on it." Coyote
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"The officers can stay in the admin building and read the latest Tom Clancy novel thinking up new OOBs based on it." Coyote
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I guess so, I didn't notice this was from yesterday. Though it also depends on what rate people view pages.Rob Wilson wrote:
With 61 it was running smooth and thats 3/4s the maximum it's ever had at one time, so it bodes well.
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Well I did some light posting last night during the high numbers and it seemed to be fine, though with the server at his house Mike will be able to dig up some proper load stats himself rather than our guess work.Sea Skimmer wrote:I guess so, I didn't notice this was from yesterday. Though it also depends on what rate people view pages.Rob Wilson wrote:
With 61 it was running smooth and thats 3/4s the maximum it's ever had at one time, so it bodes well.
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"The officers can stay in the admin building and read the latest Tom Clancy novel thinking up new OOBs based on it." Coyote
HAB Tankspotter - like trainspotting but with the thrill of 125mm retaliation if they spot you back
"The officers can stay in the admin building and read the latest Tom Clancy novel thinking up new OOBs based on it." Coyote
HAB Tankspotter - like trainspotting but with the thrill of 125mm retaliation if they spot you back
Hey Rob! Take a look at my "All Seeing Eye"!Rob Wilson wrote: oh, it's just that BT over here (the only real ADSL provider) has a bandwidth cap similar to the one you described. Anyway,
as part of the Commonwealth, we own you so nyaah
*xtreme drops his pants and moons Rob*
ASVS('97)/SDN('03)
"Whilst human alchemists refer to the combustion triangle, some of their orcish counterparts see it as more of a hexagon: heat, fuel, air, laughter, screaming, fun." Dawn of the Dragons
ASSCRAVATS!
"Whilst human alchemists refer to the combustion triangle, some of their orcish counterparts see it as more of a hexagon: heat, fuel, air, laughter, screaming, fun." Dawn of the Dragons
ASSCRAVATS!
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Einy, customer for you.xtreme wrote:Hey Rob! Take a look at my "All Seeing Eye"!Rob Wilson wrote: oh, it's just that BT over here (the only real ADSL provider) has a bandwidth cap similar to the one you described. Anyway,
as part of the Commonwealth, we own you so nyaah
*xtreme drops his pants and moons Rob*
And on that note we'll leave the spam for now.
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"The officers can stay in the admin building and read the latest Tom Clancy novel thinking up new OOBs based on it." Coyote
HAB Tankspotter - like trainspotting but with the thrill of 125mm retaliation if they spot you back
"The officers can stay in the admin building and read the latest Tom Clancy novel thinking up new OOBs based on it." Coyote
HAB Tankspotter - like trainspotting but with the thrill of 125mm retaliation if they spot you back
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Kool!!Rob Wilson wrote:Einy, customer for you.xtreme wrote:Hey Rob! Take a look at my "All Seeing Eye"!Rob Wilson wrote: oh, it's just that BT over here (the only real ADSL provider) has a bandwidth cap similar to the one you described. Anyway,
as part of the Commonwealth, we own you so nyaah
*xtreme drops his pants and moons Rob*
And on that note we'll leave the spam for now.
Anyway, so that's what happened! Did you get my email with the Tracerts and all that crap, Mike?
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[Computergeek]
Just FYI, the server is actually handling the load without difficulty. I even went and copied roughly 4 GB of files from the server's HD to my PC's HD while the board was running, and there were no hiccups.
It's not an ideal situation. I don't know how my ISP will react to the bandwidth I'm using (I'll probably find out at the end of the month when I get my bill), I would need some more UPS units to improve the system's resilience to power interruptions (one for the central hub, one for the router/modem in a different room, and a much bigger one for the server), and of course, it restricts my ability to use my server for other purposes, move equipment around freely or upgrade hardware/sottware, etc. It would still be more convenient in many ways to have an offsite server, but as Lord MJ's server came back up and has already gone down again (it is not responding right now as I write this), moving the board back there is not a viable option yet. At least, not until he irons out these system problems.
However, I have definitely learned that my hardware and software are adequate to host the board with its current load. Just for those of you who are curious, the specifications are:
Intel 600MHz Celeron processor
512MB of PC100 RAM
30GB Quantum Fireball LM hard drive
Mandrake Linux OS
Onboard video/audio (not that it matters; the machine runs with no monitor or speakers connected anyway).
DSL connection to Internet (3Mbps download speed, 640kbps upload speed)
And that's roughly what it takes to self-host a BBS with as many as 60 users on it simultaneously. Not a super-powerful machine by any standards, although it was fairly current when I bought it (note that the system requirements are probably higher if you want to use a Windows OS and maintain acceptable server performance).
As I said, it would still be preferable to have an off-site host if possible at the current time, but I have certainly learned that it is technically feasible to self-host if necessary.
[/Computergeek]
Just FYI, the server is actually handling the load without difficulty. I even went and copied roughly 4 GB of files from the server's HD to my PC's HD while the board was running, and there were no hiccups.
It's not an ideal situation. I don't know how my ISP will react to the bandwidth I'm using (I'll probably find out at the end of the month when I get my bill), I would need some more UPS units to improve the system's resilience to power interruptions (one for the central hub, one for the router/modem in a different room, and a much bigger one for the server), and of course, it restricts my ability to use my server for other purposes, move equipment around freely or upgrade hardware/sottware, etc. It would still be more convenient in many ways to have an offsite server, but as Lord MJ's server came back up and has already gone down again (it is not responding right now as I write this), moving the board back there is not a viable option yet. At least, not until he irons out these system problems.
However, I have definitely learned that my hardware and software are adequate to host the board with its current load. Just for those of you who are curious, the specifications are:
Intel 600MHz Celeron processor
512MB of PC100 RAM
30GB Quantum Fireball LM hard drive
Mandrake Linux OS
Onboard video/audio (not that it matters; the machine runs with no monitor or speakers connected anyway).
DSL connection to Internet (3Mbps download speed, 640kbps upload speed)
And that's roughly what it takes to self-host a BBS with as many as 60 users on it simultaneously. Not a super-powerful machine by any standards, although it was fairly current when I bought it (note that the system requirements are probably higher if you want to use a Windows OS and maintain acceptable server performance).
As I said, it would still be preferable to have an off-site host if possible at the current time, but I have certainly learned that it is technically feasible to self-host if necessary.
[/Computergeek]
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Yes, but that wasn't the problem. The Apache server daemon died on MJ's system. He's got some kind of software bug (his server is considerably more complex than mine, which strictly runs Apache and PHP/MySQL, with no open ports besides those that Apache needs).Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Anyway, so that's what happened! Did you get my email with the Tracerts and all that crap, Mike?
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Mike/RantMode/Blurbs.html
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
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That is a good example of why Linux has its advantages as a server OS. The company Im temping for uses Linux on its NAS boxes, and most of the competition like Iomega are going for Windows.Darth Wong wrote:[Computergeek]
Intel 600MHz Celeron processor
512MB of PC100 RAM
30GB Quantum Fireball LM hard drive
Mandrake Linux OS
Onboard video/audio (not that it matters; the machine runs with no monitor or speakers connected anyway).
DSL connection to Internet (3Mbps download speed, 640kbps upload speed)
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Re: GODDAMN SERVER
Yeah, DSL can actually handle an amazing amount of load. About the only time the activity indicator on my own DSL modem goes nuts is when I'm running Gnucleus, all three computers in the house are downloading something, and somebody is getting a large file off my Linux server.Darth Wong wrote:The only real impact on my system seems to be the wildly flashing lights on my DSL modem
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Ah, okay. Boy that server burp sent me into a temper tantrum too. There were bad jujus about that day...Darth Wong wrote:Yes, but that wasn't the problem. The Apache server daemon died on MJ's system. He's got some kind of software bug (his server is considerably more complex than mine, which strictly runs Apache and PHP/MySQL, with no open ports besides those that Apache needs).Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Anyway, so that's what happened! Did you get my email with the Tracerts and all that crap, Mike?