Enviro-Nut Wording of every day activities...

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It sounds errily similar to the propaganda "speak" of Soviets during the Cold War.
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aerius wrote:Yes, and no. Your average gasoline powered lawnmower is about 3-5 horsepower, which translates to 2300-3800 watts. Most residential homes are wired for 20-30 amps per circuit before the fuse blows which on a 120 volt line works out to 2400-3600 watts. Run a lawnmower on that and there's a good chance you'll blow a fuse, which is why most electric mowers run at about 12-15 amps, or about 1400-1800 watts. This is less power than your typical gas powered mower. If they designed mowers for 240V lines like your stove or dryer, then they could equal the power of gas mowers.
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All outlets here is 240V Typical fuse is rated at 16A
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In North America everything runs on 120V except the dryer and stove which run at 240V.
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Come to Europe where we use a proper voltage!

Almost everyone I know use an electic flymow, basically it weighs next to nothing and gets the job done fast....and with plastic exterior for it, if it does cut the cable (which you have to be a bit of an idiot to do) and for some reason the circuit breaker they all come with these days, or the fuse, dont go....then the simple fact is, the parts you are able to touch are all insulators...so no shock.....
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Keevan_Colton wrote:Come to Europe where we use a proper voltage!

Almost everyone I know use an electic flymow, basically it weighs next to nothing and gets the job done fast....and with plastic exterior for it, if it does cut the cable (which you have to be a bit of an idiot to do) and for some reason the circuit breaker they all come with these days, or the fuse, dont go....then the simple fact is, the parts you are able to touch are all insulators...so no shock.....
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I made a cross-jursidictional non-point source pollution trip. At my destination I engaged in domicile repair activities that did not conform to known BPM's, PPM 10 standards, or dermal toxicity controls.

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BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:It sounds errily similar to the propaganda "speak" of Soviets during the Cold War.
I think that was the whole point.
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Lawnmowers:

Electric lawnmowers, powered by household current and batteries both exist. Typically, the quality of the cut they produce is about the same as gasoline powered mowers (inferior, by the way, to unpowered push mowers in terms of evenness and cleanness of the cut). On 120 volts, an electric mower will have difficulty with higher, denser, and wetter grass. This isn't a problem if you keep up with the lawn, but if you have a fast-growing breed of grass coupled with lots of rain, the lawn can rapidly become to0 thick to cut with an electric mower (when I cut my lawn on Friday, parts of it were so dense a 3hp mower kept stalling).

The other problem is, of course, the cord. On small lawns, this isn't much of a problem, but if you've got a small lawn, why not save money and get a better cut from an unpowered mower (not to mention that unpowered mowers require only blade replacement and a little WD-40 for maintenence and last for decades if stored properly)? On big lawns like mine, an electric mower is going to require a hundred feet or more of extention cord, especially if you don't have many outdoor outlets. Not only do you risk running over the cord with the blade, but it's an enormous pain in the ass (I prefer to use a rake and a push-broom over the electric leaf-blower we have, that's how shitty dragging a cord around the yard is). I'm not sure of the performance of battery powered mowers, but I know they cost more and weigh more than gas mowers, and the batteries have to be replaced periodically.

So basically, electric lawnmowers are underpowered, inconvenient and/or overpriced for large lawns. On small lawns, they're extremely overpriced, overweight, and do an inferior job. Sorry eco-nuts--I'm sticking to a gas mower.
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RI, I detect just a bit of bias towards your classic push mower...just a casual observation!

I personally have had the misfortune of using a pushmower and wouldn't wish it on a snake...Maybe I did it wrong, but RI is absolutely correct, a Pushmower DOES give superior uniformity of cut, cause the slow blade (Remember the slow blade pierces the shield) wont slap some of the grass flat like a fast spinning blade, and you can almost be certain that every single little blade will get it's due. Blahblahblah. My point stands, push mowers suck, electric mowers suck, and SOMEONE SPLIT THIS THREAD! (jk! :wink: )
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Chardok wrote:RI, I detect just a bit of bias towards your classic push mower...just a casual observation!

I personally have had the misfortune of using a pushmower and wouldn't wish it on a snake...Maybe I did it wrong, but RI is absolutely correct, a Pushmower DOES give superior uniformity of cut, cause the slow blade (Remember the slow blade pierces the shield) wont slap some of the grass flat like a fast spinning blade, and you can almost be certain that every single little blade will get it's due. Blahblahblah. My point stands, push mowers suck, electric mowers suck, and SOMEONE SPLIT THIS THREAD! (jk! :wink: )
I don't think it's so much the speed of the blade as it is the motion and alignment. Motorized mowers cut with a single rotating horizontal blade, so on each spin, it's hitting each blade of grass at a slightly different angle and speed. Push mowers blades strike all the grass in the machine's path at the same angle and speed. That's where your better cut comes from.

Professionals, by the way, use mowers with pusher style blades driven by a gas motor. I didn't mention those because they cost too much money for home use.
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