ApparentlyAgent R wrote:Crushed how? With her bare hands?!![]()
in the article she twisted his nutsack.
What a way to go....youch.
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ApparentlyAgent R wrote:Crushed how? With her bare hands?!![]()
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I guess you missed the part where he decided not to have his injuries treated. He was probably embarrassed by the fact that when he wanted to beat his wife, his wife turned around and kicked his ass. His pride was probably what motivated his violence and ultimately it was his pride that led to his death.I fail to see how a minor altercation justifies killing anyone. Two people get in a fight, and automatically one deserves to die? No. Violent though I may be, certain actions require more extreme justification than this.
Rightfully so.InnerBrat wrote:And maybe because the article suggested he was a wife beating scumbucket?
Sorry, I have no sympathy for husbands who are killed in self defence.
Well, I do have a bit of a problem with protecting people from their own bad judgement, but that doesn't mean I think they deserve the worst-case scenario.Uraniun235 wrote:I guess you missed the part where he decided not to have his injuries treated. He was probably embarrassed by the fact that when he wanted to beat his wife, his wife turned around and kicked his ass. His pride was probably what motivated his violence and ultimately it was his pride that led to his death.I fail to see how a minor altercation justifies killing anyone. Two people get in a fight, and automatically one deserves to die? No. Violent though I may be, certain actions require more extreme justification than this.
It also doesn't mention specifics about the "melee that ensued"... for all we know he was getting the upper hand until she took more extreme measures to protect herself.
In revision of my earlier statement, I don't think he necessarily should have died, but if he hadn't started shit there would have been none. Quite frankly whenever you get into a fight there's always the possibility that it can lead to severe injury or even death. He didn't realize that, and coupled with the fact that he was enough of an asshole to beat his wife and such a prideful bastard that he couldn't go get help, I still think he had the pain of his testicles being crushed coming to him.
Yes. I'm just saying he didn't automatically deserve to die the second the fight started, which seems to be the general sentiment.InnerBrat wrote:It's not as if she intended to kill him, or that she realised the action would kill him. His stupidity and macho pride in not going for help is what killed him.
Not by a long shot. I didn't kill the man who raped me (I did gleefully beat him senseless), and I'd say rape is a whole lot worse (psychologically if not always physically) than your run-of-the-mill slap or kick (such as occurs in ordinary street brawls). If a man I were living with hit me ONCE, I'd know to leave or boot him ASAP. It wouldn't translate into being killed unless I stayed. Which would be about as suicidal as this guy's not seeking medical help.Zac Naloen wrote:he deserved it, wife beaters fit into the same categrory as rapists and paedofiles.
Sorry, can't see it that way. If he's accidentally killed in self-defense, too bad for him. But deliberate killing can only be justified by a mortal threat. A pattern of escalating violence certainly denotes a mortal threat, but the solution to that is to leave the first time a fight occurs. I can't find anything more specific about what this situation was.Zac Naloen wrote:i don't mean that the crime is as bad.
Its just that people who beat there wives are instantly forfitting themselves to the same punishment as i would give it out. I.E shot on sight
Metrion Cascade wrote:Sorry, can't see it that way. If he's accidentally killed in self-defense, too bad for him. But deliberate killing can only be justified by a mortal threat. A pattern of escalating violence certainly denotes a mortal threat, but the solution to that is to leave the first time a fight occurs. I can't find anything more specific about what this situation was.Zac Naloen wrote:i don't mean that the crime is as bad.
Its just that people who beat there wives are instantly forfitting themselves to the same punishment as i would give it out. I.E shot on sight
My concern: I've seen men (including some I'm rather partial to) badly injured in this manner without justification, and can't simply say, "Oh, yes, go for the testicles whenever you think you should." Like any potentially deadly or crippling means of self-defense, it has to be justified. And there are situations where it should be prosecuted as sexual assault if it wasn't justified self-defense (i.e. a verbal argument, or a physical fight the man didn't initiate).