Isreal vs Mideast, who would win?

[StimNeuro]

Besides the whole point of this thread is pointless. Israel will not win because they are better soldiers but because America has armed them to the teeth with the best military hardware on the planet. Given the same level of technology the Arabs will truimph.

And so you show that you know nothing, Israel’s greatest victories where all pulled off with equal or quite often inferior technology.

Indeed. There are stories of how Isreal rolled rock filled barrels around to convince their enemies that US tanks were backing them. And painting normal boats to make the egyptians think that they had a real warship. I don't know if they are true, or even if I'm telling them right, but if so, it's pretty funny.

An incident in the Six-Day War supposedly had a single Isreali tank holding off ~20 Syrians by popping over berms at different locations. Had the lot of them covinced that they were facing a numerically superior force.

[Sarevok]

Which is all very well and good, but they will indeed lose that battle even with the best equipment in the whole world precisely because of that disorganized command structure, the top-down organization which prevents training of lower ranks in how to repair their equipment (and the failure to disseminate repair parts to lower echelons), and the total lack of any effective NCO corps among the Arab armies. Massive structural reform in the Arab armies would be required before they could utilize even the technology which would give them parity with Israel so that they could use it for victory

I am very well aware how inefficient militaries are in muslim nations. Many of my relatives serve in them. You are entirely correct. But I was talking about the moral and motivation of the individual Arab soldier not their command structure.

My point was that Arab soldiers as motivated as IDF personnel. They are prepared to sacrifice themselves for a cause just like IDF personnel. IMHO Arabs would make an excellent fighting if they were properly equipped, trained and led.

[Knife]

My point was that Arab soldiers as motivated as IDF personnel. They are prepared to sacrifice themselves for a cause just like IDF personnel. IMHO Arabs would make an excellent fighting if they were properly equipped, trained and led.

Anything can be an effective fighting force if properly equipped, trained, and LED. That's the point.

[Sarevok]

Anything can be an effective fighting force if properly equipped, trained, and LED. That's the point.

That is what I am saying. Being a good soldier is not about genetics. It is about good training, leadership and equipment. The Arabs have the moral and the motivataion but lack the other three factors mentioned in the previous sentence.