traitor congressman calls bush liar

[EmperorMing]

Actually, I am watching the History Channel Special on the Spartans. and enjoying this conversation immensly. Mind you part of the reason Magneto is such a kick ass villian is that Spartan Helmet. It just transforms the person by turning the head from a face to a demonic killing machine. Kudus for Lucas for copping it for first Boba Fett, and later the clone troopers.

Oh I am changing my sign a little bit. You'll see.

You be over 30?!?! Excellent, now I dont feel so old {I am 27}

You're not the only one.

[Mr Bean]

Personaly we need BOTH of the fucks out of Power, Saddam has been doing dirty tricks since 1969 and has a large history of doing anything he thinks he can fucking get away with

Bush is the same, though lucky in the US theres alot less he can get away with


Anyway my feeling on the matter(And if I need back it up with logical matters and what-not) is that we should nuke BOTH the fuckheads

Though lets send Bush on a Clue finding mission to France first(Heh sorry had to stick in a france knock there)

[salm]

i´d like to find out what these anti globalisationists would do with him...

[Mr Bean]

OAN, The *Traitor Azeron is refering to besides being a dumb fuck(Of course thats usaly a sad given considering the elected goverment these days) also happens to be a rather pathetic SOB

More info is this guy goes to Iraq propretyed to find out wiether or not we should be taking over Iraq(Oh and American Taxs payers are footing the bill for the 4 Star Hotel plus the Private Jet he rented)

So during this greater mans jorouneys around he visted three hosiptials and a qoute *Dirairha Treatment facilites

Then he calls Bush a liering sayin he has info Bush is lieing but does not say WHAT it is

And what exactly could he have found there?

[Azeron]

Last time I checked, our operations in Iraq are still part of the 1990 Iraqi "war" resolution. It was never rescinded, including another resolution in support, and a joint resolution just a month ago, authorizing the assaination of Saddam Hussien, and several resolutions compelling hte executive branch to support and give aid to groups trying to overthrow the iraqi government.

So yes we are in a state of war, the courts recognize that it doesn't have to say war, to recognize that we are currently embroiled in a transnational conflict, and Saddam is obvioulsy acting as a sheild for several al quaeda operations. They even operate a office in downtown bhagdad.

His actions are treasonous, just as much as Hanoi jane or Tokoyo Rose. He has delibrately undermined the effort of our country to get rid of a threat not just to the american people but to peoples all over the world. He supports terrorism, including Al Queada, everyone knows it, and its also included in the war authorization passed right after 9/11 to attack those planning future attacks, and those that give these terrorists aid.

He cannot prove anything he is saying, or even come up with a shred of evidence, his entire argument is tap dance around the issues, and is defing the will of the people (70% want war with Iraq), the will of congress (War resolution expected to pass easily) and the overall campaign to protect the US mainland from terrorist attack.

Expullsion from congress, would be the nicest thing we should do to this triator

[Azeron]

BTW I voted to expell.

[Ted]

I think you are f*cked

[Eleas]

But more to the point, this congressmen obviously is trying to undermine the war effort,

What "war effort"? Don't forget, the US isn't at war. Or at least, that's what they keep telling people wanting the US to respect the Geneva convention in regards to the prisoners, something the Land Of The Free is obviously reluctant to do.

and called our beloved president a liar.

"Beloved"? That might just rank among the sickest statements of the century. Judging from my discussions with sundry american buddies, the general consensus seems to be that Bush should be strung up in a tree by his nuts. And the only real disagreement seems to be on whether to use rope or barbed wire.

I say expulsion from congress, instead of the traditional hanging is called for, seeing as I feel compassionate right now.

what do you think

That you grow dumber by each passing minute.

[Azeron]

why is it, all these "peace activists" love to recite Neville Chamberlines "Peace in our Time" speach?

How Orwellian, The "forever peace". which buildings are blown up and americans are told that there is noone trying to kill them. Enemies proclaiming our death, adn ammassing weapons of mass destruction explicitly to kill Us while "peace party" says we just have to understand the root causes of terror and they won't blow us up. where the leader of the peace party wears his "Make Love not War" shirt, and talks in confusing platitudes praising the degenerate repressors of a billion people as just different civilizations, as if some peopel had a right to repress others.

That MidAsia was really our friend, even though they are the ones attacking us, and the dDsporia are our enemies even though they fight with us.

Yes we are living in the time of "forever peace", where our beloved "peace acitivits" are rewriting history and language to make it seem that the world is evolving to a peaceful state, no matter how many cafe's are blown up or planes run into our buildings.

If orwell had seen what passes for peace today, he would have written 1984 differently.

[Kuja]

This guy just went to Iraq for THIS??!!! What a piece of shit.

[Admiral Piett]

why is it, all these "peace activists" love to recite Neville Chamberlines "Peace in our Time" speach?

How Orwellian, The "forever peace". which buildings are blown up and americans are told that there is noone trying to kill them. Enemies proclaiming our death, adn ammassing weapons of mass destruction explicitly to kill Us while "peace party" says we just have to understand the root causes of terror and they won't blow us up. where the leader of the peace party wears his "Make Love not War" shirt, and talks in confusing platitudes praising the degenerate repressors of a billion people as just different civilizations, as if some peopel had a right to repress others.

That MidAsia was really our friend, even though they are the ones attacking us, and the dDsporia are our enemies even though they fight with us.

Yes we are living in the time of "forever peace", where our beloved "peace acitivits" are rewriting history and language to make it seem that the world is evolving to a peaceful state, no matter how many cafe's are blown up or planes run into our buildings.

If orwell had seen what passes for peace today, he would have written 1984 differently.

The problem is that you,Azeron and Bush,want to use the 9/11 as an excuse for a fucked up foreign policy.

[Kuja]

The problem is that you,Azeron and Bush,want to use the 9/11 as an excuse for a fucked up foreign policy.

So we're fucked up for trying to fight back?

[Admiral Piett]

So yes we are in a state of war, the courts recognize that it doesn't have to say war, to recognize that we are currently embroiled in a transnational conflict, and Saddam is obvioulsy acting as a sheild for several al quaeda operations. They even operate a office in downtown bhagdad.

His actions are treasonous, just as much as Hanoi jane or Tokoyo Rose. He has delibrately undermined the effort of our country to get rid of a threat not just to the american people but to peoples all over the world. He supports terrorism, including Al Queada, everyone knows it, and its also included in the war authorization passed right after 9/11 to attack those planning future attacks, and those that give these terrorists aid.

There is exactly zero evidence that Iraq is supporeting Al Quaeda more than,let us say,your allies Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

[Admiral Piett]

So we're fucked up for trying to fight back?

Explain me why the Iraq is a worse problem than,let us say, Pakistan.
BTW,I support a war on terror.But not a war for reelecting Bush.

[Kuja]

Explain me why the Iraq is a worse problem than,let us say, Pakistan.
BTW,I support a war on terror.But not a war for reelecting Bush.

We ended the Gulf War because Iraq's defenses were falling apart, and we didn't want to look like conquering dictators. Huss took that as a sign of weakness and has been supporting terrorists and brutalizing his own people ever since.

I don't particularly support Bush either.

[Admiral Piett]

Iraq is not a problem.
Their nuclear program has been hopelessy crippled by the destruction of the Osiraq reactor and others key facilities.They might be able to cobble together a few dirty bombs or a single very basic fission bomb(highly unlikely) but that is all.
The longest range missile that they have can only reach Israel.Israel is a nuclear power and will retaliate with nuclear weapons against any WMD attack.Notice that the SCUD in 1991 had conventional warheads and it was not because they did not have others options.
Saddam is a professional moron but he is clever or otherwise he simply would not have lasted so much.All that he wants is mantaining power.
And supporting extensively Al Quaeda or threatening Isreael is not going to reach his goal.

[Admiral Piett]

Their chemical/biological arsenals are much more serious.But still intended more for a sort of "riot control" rather anything else.
By the way,you can manifacture mustard gas nearly in you backyard,as that terrorist group did in Japan with more complex nerve gas.If Al Quaeda plans to use gas they can and probably will manufacture it by themselves,to reduce chances of being discovered and transport problems.No true need of Iraq stocks.

[Kuja]

Still better to remove that factor from play. (the "Iraq stocks")

[Azeron]

I am not willing to bet my life and the lives of my countrymen on your biased opinion about whether Saddam is capable of having nukes. getting rid of him removes the doubt of whether he can.

I can almost hear it "There is Peace in our time...."

To hell with the "Forever Peace" rehtoric of the "peace party". Its time for war.

[Colonel Olrik]

- Ass mode on -
Yeahh! Let's destroy all arabs, europeans and asians. Then let's take care of Africa, conquer south america and the U.S rulez forever in peace.
- Ass mode off -

BTW, Az, as I arleady mentioned,I kind of agree with you on Iraq, Saddam deserves a war. But it must be for the right reasons and with actual proof provided to the population and allies. And with Saddam's bluff about the weapons inpections called for.

[Admiral Piett]

Still better to remove that factor from play. (the "Iraq stocks")

In that case do not forget to eliminate Pakistan.They have a few tens of nukes.

[Antediluvian]

Who thinks Azeron should have his rank changed from "Village Idiot" to "Village Fascist," or something similar? He's not exactly an idiot, and he has helped Mike with the Canon Database, and he's very computer-literate from what I can tell (a trait you learn to respect in people after working in tech support). I think "Village Fascist" is much better-suited.

I second the nomination.

Fascist seems much more appropriate.

[Kelly Antilles]

I have but one question:

If Saddam is so horrible (which he is), why the fuck wasn't he assassinated back in the Regan-era?? You can't blame the current president for a screw up that should have happened a long time ago. Besides, he's not running the country, at least not alone. I don't think the right hand knows what the left is doing.

[Admiral Piett]

I am not willing to bet my life and the lives of my countrymen on your biased opinion about whether Saddam is capable of having nukes. getting rid of him removes the doubt of whether he can.

I can almost hear it "There is Peace in our time...."

To hell with the "Forever Peace" rehtoric of the "peace party". Its time for war.

The small detail you miss is that the Iraq of today is not the Germany of the 30's.
My "biased opinion" is founded on the dossier which Blair has showed at the House of Commons which clearly states that current chances of Iraq building a true atomic bomb are pretty non existent.

[Admiral Piett]

You can find the dossier here
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/index.html

Iraq currently is a regional threat at the best.Period.They cannot directly threaten the US.Period.
And Azeron,you should stop to use WW2 to justify a conflict made to raise Bush score in the polls.