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MWHAHAHA I agree perfectlysalm wrote:it would be a good way of getting rid of all the ugly girls though. maybe it should not be allowed for beautiful women to join the army or be drafted but the ugly ones are drafted, not trained and then used as canon fodder in the front rows. the ones who survive are "accidently" taken out by friendly fire.
Was it really needed? Plenty of men were voluntarily signing up, anyway, if memory serves.So you're saying that the U.S. shouldn't have drafted the millions of men to fight in WWII to defend and protect their rights?
I never thought of that before. When we think of drafting, we think of sending men to fight in battle. Not sending a certain SD.net denizen's uncle to a warehouse in South Carolina for the entire duration of VietnamEnlightenment wrote:Drafts are pointless given the characteristics of modern war. That said, if governments are going to draft some people (dispite the fact that it's pointless), they really should draft everyone on an equal basis.
The tail-to-tooth ratio in modern armed forces is so high anyway that most draftees wouldn't wind up in the actual fighting anyway. The majority would be doing mundane and unglamorous tasks like driving trucks, loading and unloading supplies into/from ships and aircraft, equipment repairs, and administration. In this context the average strength difference between men and women isn't all that important: a forklift doesn't care how many KG its operator can lift.
It pretty much does, believe it or not. There are so many exemptions for educated people, and people who have some financial resources behind their names, that the vast majority of the people that get drafted are actually creationists or people whose fervent patriotism inspires them to accept their drafting, even though they can get out of it. Since most of those people are creationists from the Deep South, the majority of those who are drafted are, indeed, creationists.Darth Wong wrote:The draft should only apply to creationists. Not only are they worthless cannon fodder, but they believe they will go to a better place after death anyway.
Hello, officers end up in combat too!Cyril wrote:Screw drafting. If I ever find myself in a posistion where I might be drafted, I'm joining the officer corp. I ain't gonna be one of the grunts/NCO's who gets holed five seconds after the landing craft ramp hits the beaches.
Screw that. I'm going into the Intelligence Corp.Hello, officers end up in combat too!
The first American to die in combat in Afghanistan was in the CIA.Cyril wrote:Screw that. I'm going into the Intelligence Corp.Hello, officers end up in combat too!
Ossus I kindly ask you to tell at what date the CIA became a Military OrginzationThe first American to die in combat in Afghanistan was in the CIA.
That depends on what you mean by "military organization." I was responding to a point made by someone who said he was going to join the Intelligence Service in order to escape combat, and I correctly pointed out that the first American killed in combat in Afghanistan was actually a CIA operative. It probably is not a military branch, the way you define it, but that does not change the order of American deaths in Afghanistan, nor does it suddenly make the CIA's job safe.Mr Bean wrote:Ossus I kindly ask you to tell at what date the CIA became a Military OrginzationThe first American to die in combat in Afghanistan was in the CIA.
I think you are partially right... Um women are allowed (I think) to fly Hercs and transport a/c, but not front line fighter stuff.weenadando wrote:IIRC Australia has women in frontline units now, or atleast in units as frontline as Aussies have been in the past few years (East Timor and other peace-keeping).
Its not a Military Branch Period Ossus you missed the Point, You can't be drafted into the CIA is strickly Voluntier Only, Since we are talking about a "Draft" IE going into the MILITARY with no choice, comparing the CIA to Military Intellgence is eronusIt probably is not a military branch, the way you define it, but that does not change the order of American deaths in Afghanistan, nor does it suddenly make the CIA's job safe.
I couldn't agree more with that sentiment.Kelly Antilles wrote:The draft was created to strengthen our weak armed forces at the time. Every year, more and more young men and women are joining the armed forces. We have plenty of soldiers. The draft is unwarranted in this day and age. It should be removed.
One could say the same thing about men. There's no difference in the way a man and a woman react to being riddled by machine-gun fire. One's as good at catching a bullet as the other. If you're going to object to women being drafted, please do so for rational reasons, not emotional ones.Manji wrote:Of course women should not be drafted.
Go and watch fucking Saving Private Ryan. But then mentally replace the men in it with women.
A load of pretty girls running up a beach and getting their guts rolled out around them in blood and screaming agony and fear, gore guts brains severed limbs and blood.
It's a plain and simple fact to me - there is NO place for women in the meat grinder.
Sorry, but that's not true. Men are stronger and faster than women, but women are better at survival and at moving over long distances.GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:One could say the same thing about men. There's no difference in the way a man and a woman react to being riddled by machine-gun fire. One's as good at catching a bullet as the other. If you're going to object to women being drafted, please do so for rational reasons, not emotional ones.Manji wrote:Of course women should not be drafted.
Go and watch fucking Saving Private Ryan. But then mentally replace the men in it with women.
A load of pretty girls running up a beach and getting their guts rolled out around them in blood and screaming agony and fear, gore guts brains severed limbs and blood.
It's a plain and simple fact to me - there is NO place for women in the meat grinder.
