The Day After Tomorrow *SPOILERS*

[PeZook]

The plot really sucked. My favorite moment, though, was that the guys walking from Philadelphia to NY ended up walking past the Statue of Liberty. Granted, the one guy mentioned earlier that they couldn't navigate worth shit, but that was ridiculous.

Well, Jason theoretically went with them because he COULD navigate (yeah, with GPS. Like anyone else couldn't hold a palmtop and look at the screen)

[Crown]

The plot really sucked. My favorite moment, though, was that the guys walking from Philadelphia to NY ended up walking past the Statue of Liberty. Granted, the one guy mentioned earlier that they couldn't navigate worth shit, but that was ridiculous.

Shame on you MoO! Obviously they were trying to avoid the deadly 'glass roofs of doom' that were relics of former capatilist greed and excessivness so the headed further east onto the forzen Atlantic ... I mean like duh!

[Lord Poe]

THen we're back to those horrible 70's disaster movies where the first forty minutes is spent establishing half a dozen soap-opera plots before shit starts breaking..

No no, that's exaclty the opposite of what I said. Think of say, "The Fugitive" as story A, while as disaster the size of TDAT is going on in the background.

[Admiral Valdemar]

Why? Because he's a modern American Zealot...America this. America That. Look at Independence Day, Godzilla, etc.

Roland Emmerich is German.

Please don't associate Emmerich with my country. Especially his "America-is-the-greatest" views, he had to display in every of his movies, I not like so well.(Independece Day is here the worst offender)

No, that was his partner, Dean Devlin, who he split with after The Patriot which although a good film, made the English out to be the type that cooked and ate babies.

I enjoyed TDAT, but I wish the action was better spread out. I wanted to see more than LA and NYC get trashed.

[Joe]

No, that was his partner, Dean Devlin, who he split with after The Patriot which although a good film, made the English out to be the type that cooked and ate babies.

I didn't really think so, the rank and file of the British Army wasn't portrayed poorly and they were pretty kind to Cornwallis. The only guy that got really demonized was Tavington, and the historical figure that inspired him really was an evil SOB.

The church burning scene was still bullshit, though.

[Admiral Valdemar]

After watching that movie, I have concluded that I'm never going to get that time back. It sucked from the opening shots to the end of the film. The concept was ridiculous. The special effects weren't good enough to save the film (and many of them made no sense, if you think about them, ie. the fact that additional ice forms when the "eye of the storm" hits, etc.). The best part about it was the girl, but the movie forced her to put more clothes ON, which ended up removing the film's biggest potential lure.

The plot really sucked. My favorite moment, though, was that the guys walking from Philadelphia to NY ended up walking past the Statue of Liberty. Granted, the one guy mentioned earlier that they couldn't navigate worth shit, but that was ridiculous.

I don't know what film you were watching, but the one I saw had amazing special effects which was the whole damn point of the film anyway (watch any other Emmerich film and tell me character depth was his primary concern).

And the additional ice forms from *gasp* air, perhaps? That's how it appeared, moisture in the atmosphere.

My chief qualms with the film were distribution of the action though since most of the carnage is really early on.

[Gil Hamilton]

The movie was terrible, but it managed to be saved by the teenagers managing to be chased down a hallway by ICE!

[Admiral Valdemar]

The movie was terrible, but it managed to be saved by the teenagers managing to be chased down a hallway by ICE!

Although I don't have your contempt for a typical disaster fare, that bit was funny because I was half expecting someone to grab a gun a la Aliens or something and shoot away at... ice.

That'd be a step closer to how Hollywood nearly would've made this had it not been kept under the radar by Emmerich. You'd have Bruce Willis going around NYC with a flamethrower shouting "take that you frozen sumbitches!" and singlehandedly thawing the city.

[Master of Ossus]

I don't know what film you were watching, but the one I saw had amazing special effects which was the whole damn point of the film anyway (watch any other Emmerich film and tell me character depth was his primary concern).

Who cares what his concern was? The point is that the FX were not enough to justify watching the film.

And the additional ice forms from *gasp* air, perhaps? That's how it appeared, moisture in the atmosphere.

WHAT moisture in the atmosphere? Have you ever lived in a cold-weather climate? Remember that the temperature around the buildings had been well below freezing for a LONG time, which would reduce the humidity to virtually zero. It would make some sense for areas that were still inhabited by people and/or animals to have some humidity left, but not for the entire city of NY to be like that.

[Sea Skimmer]

Wasn't there some ultra shitty made for TV movie with almost the exact same plot on a few years ago? Its premise was something about the sun becoming less bright for a few years.

[PeZook]

Wasn't there some ultra shitty made for TV movie with almost the exact same plot on a few years ago? Its premise was something about the sun becoming less bright for a few years.

Yeah, I remember it. I also remember it was somewhat better than The Day After Tomorrow, but sadly, not the title nor any other details.

[Admiral Valdemar]

WHAT moisture in the atmosphere? Have you ever lived in a cold-weather climate? Remember that the temperature around the buildings had been well below freezing for a LONG time, which would reduce the humidity to virtually zero. It would make some sense for areas that were still inhabited by people and/or animals to have some humidity left, but not for the entire city of NY to be like that.

I was referring to the new air being brought in by the storm as it approached and cycled the moisture what little levels there may be left. As cold as it can be, it won't be bone dry so that thin sheet of ice could still form.

[Oni Koneko Damien]

After just seeing the movie myself, I have to say that unless a friend invites you over to watch it on video, or someone else is picking up the tab at the theatre, don't see it.

Special effects...great, but so fucking what? I could take the special effects from TDAT, The Core, Armageddon, and a few other movies, splice them together, and have an hour of nothing but disaster-special-effects, which is basically what everyone is admitting the movie was trying to be. The sad thing is, my movie would be more entertaining, effect-wise.

Plot...gag me. I mean, how predictable could you get? Let's see, the rich guy at the next table smiles at the hot girl. Gee, you don't see some love-competition going on here, do you? The rich snot comforts the homely boy, gee, looks like they'll be friends after all. The girl scratches her leg on a taxi and blood comes out, now, you don't suspect that's going to pop up again sometime in the future, do you? The kids go out to get drugs, gee, you don't think the super-freeze has been waiting for just that moment to strike, and only narrowly miss slaughtering them, do you?

A plot I would have enjoyed is watching everyone in the US die, and the Mexicans coming in and fixing everything...or maybe the Russians, since they're used to that environment. That would catch my attention, that would be worth watching.

That brings me to another point, the ameri-centrism in the movie is just horrid. I would like to know why, if it's a disaster movie, didn't it show a little more destruction happening around the world? I mean, The Core was crap, but at least it showed Paris getting vaporized by lightning. The best we got to see in TDAT was a few British copters getting frozen, and some Chinese getting pelted with ice (which I already see enough of, considering I live in the mid-west). Why couldn't they show, say, Big Ben turning to ice and the clock-face shattering? Or maybe the tower of Pisa breaking down in a Mediterranian (sp?) surge?

The worst part of the movie, in my opinion, has to do with personal taste. It's the implication that humanity directs, even if inadvertantly, the disasters that occur. Apparently some people cannot stomach the fact that humanity could expend all its energy on 'harming' the environment, and a couple decades after we wipe ourselves out, the world will be tooling along just as happily as ever.

-Damien

[Slartibartfast]

So, which exactly is the "scientific" excuse for an explanation to the disaster occuring in the movie, and that allegedly happened 10,000 years ago? Noah's ark tale or just generic ecologist propaganda about using aerosol cans or cars coughing too much monoxide? And if so, how exactly did humans 10,000 years ago manage to pollute the environment to cause a global warming?

How violent is this global disaster thing? Did people just freeze for no reason while walking in the street, or was it a really devastating tidal wave levelling the place á la Deep Impact?

If it had anything to do with references to the bible, would a guy in a big wooden boat be able to survive such flooding?

EDIT: and most importantly, was the Hollywood sign erased right to left or left to right? We need to know if God uses a word processor

[Joe]

So, which exactly is the "scientific" excuse for an explanation to the disaster occuring in the movie, and that allegedly happened 10,000 years ago?

Global Warming causes the Gulf Stream to shut down, chain of events, big-ass storm. The whole idea is from a book by Art Bell, that's all you need to know.

[Guardsman Bass]

So, which exactly is the "scientific" excuse for an explanation to the disaster occuring in the movie, and that allegedly happened 10,000 years ago?

Global Warming causes the Gulf Stream to shut down, chain of events, big-ass storm. The whole idea is from a book by Art Bell, that's all you need to know.

I read that book; although they had the little superstorm story going on in the intros to the chapters, they spent most of the book talking about some sort of previous civilization which they inferred from certain engineering feats and unusual features in Veda literature. I'm assuming you read it; how truthful is that archaeological stuff?

[Joe]

I'm assuming you read it; how truthful is that archaeological stuff?

I've never read it, but as Art Bell is a known bullshitter I would probably guess that it's BS as well.

[Kuja]

TDAT was a moderately good movie only for the fact that it had lots of people dying quickly in in spectacular fashion. In retrospect, I wish I'd walked out right after the New York Deluge, becasue as soon as that was over, the movie got really boring.

[SyntaxVorlon]

Bloody annoying when the left starts using bad hollywood movies to push a party line.

A far better story about a scenario like this is John Barnes "Mother of Storms." It's far more believable, it's got lots of realistic future tech such as neural interfacing realistic spaceship design etc, it's got a realistic universe where such neural interfacing is used for its most obvious purpose: Porn. And its well written.

[Shinova]

They even have a quote from Emmerich himself going "The threat of global climate change is the only problem big enough to force all the countries in the world to stop fighting and work together to save the planet."

I hate that train of thought. Ian in the book Jurassic Park summed it up nicely. The planet doesn't need saving; we do.

[Shogoki]

It's full of annoying leftist political points as well. Really sucked. When I plonk down money for a disaster movie, I don't need preaching about forigiving Latin American debt ...

And you know what's better? The new US President at the end, when he thanks Mexico for being kind and hospitable and letting in the US citizens in the time of need...

...but they did so AFTER the late pres decided to forgo all the Latin American debt
In other words, it was pure extortion.

It's not like the USA has many choices left to make Latin America pay, anyways, all the other allies and four fifths of the country is gone.

[fgalkin]

I must be the only person on this board who enjoyed the movie. I literally laughed my ass off at it. I mean really, temperature dropping 10 degress per second?

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin