Bush and the "mispronouncing" of Nuclear...(RANT)

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-02-03 03:14pm

Dahak wrote: Actually, we Germans call that element "Wolfram".

Eh, close enough.

I must thank the endless hours of reading up on WW2 for teaching
me this, lol

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-02-03 03:14pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Dalton wrote:Goddamn this thread is stupid.
About as stupid as the way northerners speak, and then automatically
assume that they are the high exalted authority on english.

Technically I'm from the north, can I be considered "high exalted authority on English"?

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-02-03 03:21pm

"Nu-kyu-lar" is simply WRONG. It's not how the word is spelled and it's not how the word is pronounced. "Nuclear" is the correct spelling, and "nu-klee-ar" is the correct pronunciation. End of story. No debate.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-02-03 03:32pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote: Technically I'm from the north, can I be considered "high exalted authority on English"?

Seeing as you British gits did invent the damn language in the first place, I guess
so...

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-02-03 03:36pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote: Technically I'm from the north, can I be considered "high exalted authority on English"?
Seeing as you British gits did invent the damn language in the first place, I guess
so...

Then as British git I proclaim "Fluffybunnies" as the correct pronunciation.

*Laughs as we resort to launching Fluffybunnies missiles at iraq*

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-02-03 03:42pm

Talking to Ted via AIM, and he says that us Yanks spell
those various words Chicago style.....

Seems a printer in chicago eliminated letters in words
to save money, and that became the standard spelling
in the US of A

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-02-03 03:50pm

Kelly Antilles wrote:Damnit people... so what if someone pronounces a word differently than you. The US is a fucking MELTING POT of people of different ethnicities. Of COURSE we're all going to have different accents and ways of saying things.

Haven't you seen the new Crunch bar with Caramel commercial with Shaquille O'Neil? That right there shows you there are two ways of pronouncing Caramel. And PECAN. How do YOU pronounce PECAN.

Pee-kan?
Pee-kahn?
Pe'khan?

Fucking leave Bush alone. Texas has its own fucking accent. Don't bitch because he supposedly "mispronounces" a word. Bitch at him when he makes stupid decisions.

Couldn't have said it better myself, I also liked the nice usage of vulgarities, which I wouldn't have put to such good usage. Right on, Kelly!

Good gosh, the man mispronounces a word because it is his friggen accent! It is my accent too, might I add. Just because someone mispronounces a single syllable of one word doesn't mean they are stupid! Now, no one here can sit there and tell me you have never mispronounced a word or said it different than it should have been.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-02-03 03:50pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Dalton wrote:Goddamn this thread is stupid.
About as stupid as the way northerners speak, and then automatically assume that they are the high exalted authority on english.

We don't have to "assume" anything. We are literate, and we can pronounce words the way they are written. If Southerners have a problems with that, then it's little wonder why creationism is so rampant down there.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-02-03 03:53pm

Oh, so you say that you pronounce every word correctly, ey? I have been up north many many times, and you people mispronounce words just as often as southerners do. I dont want to hear that BS.

You have your own way of speaking (which is far from perfect), and we have our own way of speaking (which is far from perfect). It is bull to say that you talk right and we don't.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-02-03 03:55pm

The last time I said "nucular" in a non-joking context was when I was five.

If an adult Southerner has the phonetic reasoning capabilities of a five year old Northerner...

I don't need to finish that.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-02-03 04:10pm

NF_Utvol wrote:Oh, so you say that you pronounce every word correctly, ey? I have been up north many many times, and you people mispronounce words just as often as southerners do. I dont want to hear that BS.

Southerners have distinct accents, but the pronunciation differences in the two accents mostly fall under the categories of stressing different syllables or elongating different ones. Arbitrarily rearranging, mangling and inventing syllables does not fall under that category. It's simple illiteracy.

You have your own way of speaking (which is far from perfect), and we have our own way of speaking (which is far from perfect). It is bull to say that you talk right and we don't.

Name a word that Northerners tend to mangle the way Southerners mangle "nuclear."

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-02-03 06:43pm

MKSheppard wrote:About as stupid as the way northerners speak, and then automatically assume that they are the high exalted authority on english.

Shep, you know what? I know a few southerners, and none of the smart ones pronounce it "nukular."

Graeme Dice · Post by **Graeme Dice** » 2003-02-04 09:21pm

Durandal wrote:We don't have to "assume" anything. We are literate, and we can pronounce words the way they are written. If Southerners have a problems with that, then it's little wonder why creationism is so rampant down there.

So you can say any word correctly then? You should send me a recording of you saying Saskatchewan. I can nearly guarantee that unless you've grown up here you will say it wrong.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2003-02-04 09:30pm

While we are at it....

It's Pop...not soda....not soda pop....not Coke....It's Pop. Let's see how many rants I can et off this statement.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-02-04 09:34pm

Graeme Dice wrote:
Durandal wrote:We don't have to "assume" anything. We are literate, and we can pronounce words the way they are written. If Southerners have a problems with that, then it's little wonder why creationism is so rampant down there.
So you can say any word correctly then? You should send me a recording of you saying Saskatchewan. I can nearly guarantee that unless you've grown up here you will say it wrong.

Mispronouncing "saskatchewan" is hardly comparable to completely mangling a three-syllable, easily-pronounced word.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-02-04 09:34pm

Pop, eh? Go up to a streetside vendor here and ask for 'Pop'. See what happens.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2003-02-04 09:36pm

Graeme Dice wrote:
Durandal wrote:We don't have to "assume" anything. We are literate, and we can pronounce words the way they are written. If Southerners have a problems with that, then it's little wonder why creationism is so rampant down there.
So you can say any word correctly then? You should send me a recording of you saying Saskatchewan. I can nearly guarantee that unless you've grown up here you will say it wrong.

It would take an English major two tries to properly pronounce that. Try something a little more equal in difficulty to pronounce as Nuclear.

Graeme Dice · Post by **Graeme Dice** » 2003-02-04 10:24pm

Captain_Cyran wrote:It would take an English major two tries to properly pronounce that. Try something a little more equal in difficulty to pronounce as Nuclear.

The fact of the matter remains that to call someone stupid because of their accent is ridiculous. Call him stupid because he is, not because his accent doesn't agree with yours.

As for Saskatchewan, you have no idea how much it grates to hear people mangle it, but we don't call them stupid when they do.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-02-05 03:11am

Captain_Cyran wrote:....It's Pop

Coke. COKE, DAMMIT!

Dargos · Post by **Dargos** » 2003-02-05 04:31am

Durandal wrote: Name a word that Northerners tend to mangle the way Southerners mangle "nuclear."

How about "sink" as in kitchen sink? I know many "Northern" folks (Maryland, Maine, New York) who say Kitchen ZINK!

Dargos · Post by **Dargos** » 2003-02-05 04:35am

Captain_Cyran wrote:While we are at it....

It's Pop...not soda....not soda pop....not Coke....It's Pop. Let's see how many rants I can et off this statement.

ITS COKE. Doesn't matter what you want(at least in Texas and some other southern states)

Person 1 "Want a Coke?"

Person 2 "What do you have?"

Person 1 "We have 7UP, Pepsi, Coke, Welches Grape, and Mountain Dew."

Person 1 "A Dew please."

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-02-05 12:46pm

Dargos wrote:
Durandal wrote: Name a word that Northerners tend to mangle the way Southerners mangle "nuclear."
How about "sink" as in kitchen sink? I know many "Northern" folks (Maryland, Maine, New York) who say Kitchen ZINK!

I've never really heard that pronunciation, but please provide an example where extra syllables are added in and syllables are changed around. Accents are simply pronouncing different syllables differently. That's why New Yorkers pronounce it "New Yoork" with a very strong emphasis on the "or" sound.

The_Nice_Guy · Post by **The_Nice_Guy** » 2003-02-05 01:15pm

Oh great, are we trying to govern the use of language now?!?

It actually doesn't matter how something is pronounced, as long as the idea gets across; communication is effective.

There's British english, Canadian english, australian english, etc. Every single one of these are just as viable as the others. There is no one manner of pronunciation that we can say to be the most 'pure', or most 'correct'. It's a value claim when we try to say any one accent/dialect/language is better than another.

Heck, even individuals have their own unique accents and ways of pronunciation. Linguists call these idiolects.

The Nice Guy

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2003-02-05 09:38pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Captain_Cyran wrote:....It's Pop
Coke. COKE, DAMMIT!

Yeah, at least we are nice enough to know what Coke and Soda are....We try saying Pop in the south or the west and we are looked at dumbfoundedly.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-02-05 09:47pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Pablo Sanchez wrote: This is the same sort of situation as someone pronouncing "toe-may-toe" as "ter-mah-tay." It's quite simply totally wrong.
Same thing with Color. I cringe whenever some loser says colour......Goddammit, it is COLOR, not Colour....

Or Ass. It is Ass, not Arse.....jesus, the world is full of fucking idiots.

MK its actually colour....we just sent everyone that cant grasp the concept of a silent letter to your neck of the woods a long time ago.....

Colour
Honour
Cheque

Hmm....it is ENGLISH you speak after all....though it does carry the warning "american" English....

To comment on the original topic though....accent and saying a totally different bloody word are not the same thing.....

Bush is a Grade-A idiot plain and simple.....I wouldnt give him the damn remote for the TV never mind command of a nation.....

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