Title for Duchess?

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-03-16 06:44am

Stuart Mackey wrote:
Raxmei wrote:Isn't Duchess already a title? Anyhow, she is one of the more prominent personalities on the board. If you count in her ASVS posts she'll probably fit the post requirement too. If you can find a title that fits well I'm all for giving it to her.
But not under these circumstances.

It's all a matter of fun, now. Has anyone else here actually read The Philosophy of History in its entirety?

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-03-16 06:45am

Pistolero wrote:
Jeeez... do you ever sleep? (I guess I should first ask what your time zone is )

I am a very light sleeper who keeps very odd hours.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-03-16 06:49am

My suggestion: 'Fascist'

Fascism. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
Fascist. An advocate or adherent of fascism.

Considering her oppinions about Israel, Burqas, Pinochet, Mosques and the governing of a society I think that it is quite fitting.

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Humans are incapable of going beyond that form of thinking. It's part of human nature. We're aggressive, parochial, mercurial, hypocritical, shifty and treacherous creatures. The best that can be done is establish a modicum of order, as managed by Law and enforced with State Violence, inside of the boundaries of a single Nation-State.

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-03-16 06:50am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Pistolero wrote:
Jeeez... do you ever sleep? (I guess I should first ask what your time zone is )
I am a very light sleeper who keeps very odd hours.

You sound like me...

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-03-16 06:51am

Sir Sirius wrote:My suggestion: 'Fascist'

Fascism. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
Fascist. An advocate or adherent of fascism.

Considering her oppinions about Israel, Burqas, Pinochet, Mosques and the governing of a society I think that it is quite fitting.
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Humans are incapable of going beyond that form of thinking. It's part of human nature. We're aggressive, parochial, mercurial, hypocritical, shifty and treacherous creatures. The best that can be done is establish a modicum of order, as managed by Law and enforced with State Violence, inside of the boundaries of a single Nation-State.

I'd direct you to the twelfth post on this page:

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... 2&start=75

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-03-16 07:13am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Stuart Mackey wrote:
Raxmei wrote:Isn't Duchess already a title? Anyhow, she is one of the more prominent personalities on the board. If you count in her ASVS posts she'll probably fit the post requirement too. If you can find a title that fits well I'm all for giving it to her.
But not under these circumstances.
It's all a matter of fun, now. Has anyone else here actually read The Philosophy of History in its entirety?

Nope, never read it at all. What point of veiw does it take?

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-03-16 07:14am

OK, let's make it: 'Hypocritical facist

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-03-16 07:20am

Stuart Mackey wrote:
Nope, never read it at all. What point of veiw does it take?

To make a long story very short, Hegel was the guy who invented the Dialectic. Then Marx tacked on the idea that there was a stage beyond the State and Capitalist Democracy. If you strip away Marx, the Hegelian Dialectic still makes excellent sense.

Posbi · Post by **Posbi** » 2003-03-16 07:27am

Jeez, she's neither an idiot (really, now, that's pretty obvious that she isn't one) nor a troll (as she doesn't argue just for the sake of the arguement), so where the hell's the problem here?

Granted, I'm maybe not the best to judge this matter as I pretty constantly lean towards what she writes...

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-03-16 07:36am

Posbi wrote:Jeez, she's neither an idiot (really, now, that's pretty obvious that she isn't one) nor a troll (as she doesn't argue just for the sake of the arguement), so where the hell's the problem here?

Granted, I'm maybe not the best to judge this matter as I pretty constantly lean towards what she writes...

People like you are the hope of your nation, and force me to remind myself that GWF Hegel himself came from it.

Posbi · Post by **Posbi** » 2003-03-16 08:07am

Thank you.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-03-16 08:20am

Posbi wrote:Whisky-tango-foxtrot?

I think we should maintain this triple post, since it ended with you possessing sixty-nine posts. *g*

Ooops.. sorry.. Now's too late

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-16 10:57am

Another suggestion:

"The Otto Ohlendorf of SDN"

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-16 11:13am

Frankly, I don't see there being any case for it. She's hardly being an idiot or a troll about any of this. Just because people disagree with her doesn't mean she needs to get title.

And let faces it Enlightenment and Shep are pressing for it because of their grudges. Ted's doing it because he's Shep buttmonkey.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-16 11:14am

Stormbringer wrote:Frankly, I don't see there being any case for it. She's hardly being an idiot or a troll about any of this.

She claimed that a US Army General could get his troops to march on
Washington DC and coup the US Government if the general offered
them bonuses to do so...

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-03-16 11:16am

She has never been offensive and she can handle a debate. I'm against an offensive title. Leave the custom one or come up with an inventive title that she also approves. I liked the Turkish harem girl one

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-16 11:17am

MKSheppard wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Frankly, I don't see there being any case for it. She's hardly being an idiot or a troll about any of this.
She claimed that a US Army General could get his troops to march on
Washington DC and coup the US Government if the general offered
them bonuses to do so...

So?

That doesn't have any bearing on the fact that you're doing this because of your grudge against her.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-16 11:18am

Well the majority is against this, and I also think it's a stupid idea. She doesnt troll.

The most I'd support would be letting her chose own title that describes her view. Then we can enjoy spending a half hour with history books trying to figure out what it means and what century it's from.

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-03-16 11:25am

Sea Skimmer wrote:Well the majority is against this, and I also think it's a stupid idea. She doesnt troll.

The most I'd support would be letting her chose own title that describes her view. Then we can enjoy spending a half hour with history books trying to figure out what it means and what century it's from.

And which dead language. o O

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-03-16 11:30am

Turkish Harem Girl is incredibly amusing.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-03-16 11:30am

I don't think she deserves a title, because, while I certainly disagree with her views on government, she's never really been very obnoxious. If she deserves a title for anything, it should be for her constant and annoying use of obfuscatory language.

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2003-03-16 11:43am

I don't think she deserves a custom title based on her political opinions. On the other hand, I wouldn't be opposed to a title mocking how long some of her posts tend to get. Oh, and it would have to be in Latin, of course.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-03-16 11:47am

Nationalist Pig??? That's really got me pissed off. This thread has me a little pissed, come to think of it.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-16 11:50am

Frank Hipper wrote:Nationalist Pig??? That's really got me pissed off. This thread has me a little pissed, come to think of it.

Let it go. The only people that seem to be a pressing for it are the people with pointless vendettas against Marina anyways.

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2003-03-16 11:54am

Sir Sirius wrote:My suggestion: 'Fascist'

Fascism. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
Fascist. An advocate or adherent of fascism.

Considering her oppinions about Israel, Burqas, Pinochet, Mosques and the governing of a society I think that it is quite fitting.
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Humans are incapable of going beyond that form of thinking. It's part of human nature. We're aggressive, parochial, mercurial, hypocritical, shifty and treacherous creatures. The best that can be done is establish a modicum of order, as managed by Law and enforced with State Violence, inside of the boundaries of a single Nation-State.

So if I say that it makes perfect sense to me, I'm the next in line for a custom title? What, ultimately, is the penalty if one of us breaks the law in whatever country we live in? If one refuses to go quietly with the officers of the law who show up to collect you, what will they do next? Ask again, politely? Regardless of what sort of government you live under, compliance with the law is always enforced with the threat of some form of violence. Where you live merely determines what forms of violence the state can call on when you don't play by the rules.

I say no, and I think the custom titling is starting to get out of hand.