Man dressed as the devil disrupts ‘Passion’ movie

Oddysseus · Post by **Oddysseus** » 2004-03-02 12:30am

Gandalf wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Gandalf wrote:Could it all be claimed as a giant coincidence?
How?
Referring to my Jesus idea, I meant that I could get up there in robes and sandals. (Which I have handy.) I could say that it's just a coincidence to screw with people.

Hey, say you gave up your normal clothing for Lent.

Or your trying to start up a cult. You're going to call it Mystianity.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-03-02 12:32am

It'd be better to dress like a ninja, and if anyone complains insist that ninjas were in the Bible, but relegated only to the Apocrypha.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2004-03-02 12:34am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:It'd be better to dress like a ninja, and if anyone complains insist that ninjas were in the Bible, but relegated only to the Apocrypha.

Ninjas are in the part of the Apocrypha that deals with the Papacy.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-03-02 12:35am

jegs2 wrote:Nice. Folks calling themselves Christians do everything Jesus taught us not to do.

Indeed, I must have missed the part of the Gospels where Jesus encouraged his followers to throw things at people who annoyed them

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2004-03-02 12:39am

YES!!! THE PAPAL T-SHIRT NINJAS FOR CHRIST!!!11

Sorry.
Anyway, yeah, the guy was trolling, and deserved any comments or nasty looks he got. But assault is something entirely different. I mean, 64 ounces of cola? Guy was probably sticky for the next five showers. That's what Wong's talking about with the double standard. And you're supposed to have your cell phones off damnit. If you forget, and have to scramble to turn it off, well, that's annoying but forgivable. If you start talking though, that deserves a comment. But not a drink in the pants.

I do believe I'm going to the movies soon anyway, though I can't remember what it was I was going to go see. I think perhaps I'll find a pin with a universal 'no' sign covering over a cross, and stand around next to the Passion lines before going into my movie. I think that's reasonable, don't you?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-03-02 12:45am

Darth Wong wrote:
jegs2 wrote:Nice. Folks calling themselves Christians do everything Jesus taught us not to do.
Indeed, I must have missed the part of the Gospels where Jesus encouraged his followers to throw things at people who annoyed them

I missed that part too, but this guy is truly an ass. Class clown type, but he's meaner than the average class clown. Sort of like the Evil Clown. I still wouldn't pour a drink on him, but if I know him he didn't stop at wearing the costume.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-03-02 12:46am

Idea!

Get me one of those Landover Baptist "ATHEIST" shirts, and wear it to the Passion.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-03-02 01:03am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:Idea!

Get me one of those Landover Baptist "ATHEIST" shirts, and wear it to the Passion.

That's asking for massive annoyance as people try to use the film to convert you at best, or an invitation for a lynching at worst depending on where you live. I know for a fact that the With One Accord ministry is based in Iowa, and their boss man writes essays for Jack Chick's website. Think about that.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-03-02 01:05am

Here in Cedar Rapids and Iowa City, people really don't care.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-03-02 02:21am

Man, I wish I had a friend that looked like Jesus. I've got some great glow in the dark makeup he can smear on so he can be holy as he watched the movie...

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-03-02 02:49am

Ok, so if it's bad to dress up as Jesus or Satan, why not dress up as a Roman centurion? The sword should help keep the fundies at bay for a while.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-03-02 02:51am

Darth Wong wrote:Ok, so if it's bad to dress up as Jesus or Satan, why not dress up as a Roman centurion? The sword should help keep the fundies at bay for a while.

That'd work. Actually, I might head down to the SCA, break out the appropriate gear, and do that.

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2004-03-02 04:14am

There was nothing in the local paper about this incident.

It might have been mentioned on one of the local TV stations, but I didn't see anything about it on TV either.

As far as what he did, he said that he wanted a reaction.

He also wanted to prove “that Christians aren’t as forgiving as they portray”.

He certainly got one. Having a 75 year old woman pour a soft drink over your head must be a little humiliating.

Interestingly enough, I wonder if what he did would fall under the 'fighting words' doctrine.

I don't know what (if anything) he said to the people in the audience, but his comment on wanting to prove “that Christians aren’t as forgiving as they portray” could certainly be taken as intent to incite an incident.

IMHO, if the police are investigating the incident, they're probably doing so with an eye towards charging Mr. Wendell, not the 75 year old woman who dumped a coke on him.

This is a very conservative area.

As one author put it:
Welcome to Indiana, where 'Hoosier Democrats' act like Republicans, and real Democrats are suspect.

Sporkzen · Post by **Sporkzen** » 2004-03-02 08:44am

Let he who is without sin, cast the first jujube!

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-03-02 08:52am

Oddysseus wrote:Hey, say you gave up your normal clothing for Lent.

Or your trying to start up a cult. You're going to call it Mystianity.

I gave up pants for Lent!

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-03-02 09:59am

Gandalf wrote:
Oddysseus wrote:Hey, say you gave up your normal clothing for Lent.

Or your trying to start up a cult. You're going to call it Mystianity.
I gave up pants for Lent!

I find your lack of pants disturbing.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2004-03-02 10:12am

The response isn't necessarily hypocrisy. This could be likened to the "righteous anger" that is repeatedly demonstrated and condoned. Like Moses with the idol worshipers... and Jesus with the money-changers.

"You have spoiled my Father's movie, and turned it into a theater of hooligans!"

*throws soda*

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2004-03-02 10:20am

Darth Wong wrote:If this is the worst example of "anti-Christian trolling" that they can find for "The Passion", I'm not impressed.

Well, you could subjecct theatres showing "The Passion" to some good ol'-fashioned arson, but I don't think that would be legal...

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-03-02 11:17am

i should get five or six other people to dress up as ninjas, complete with masks and plastic weapons and go to the Passion at once. not do anything disruptive, just sit in the same row right in the front. and glower at anyone that gives us dirty looks.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-03-02 11:32am

Despite that he probably did it as a gag, how is it much different than dressing up as Darth Vader when going to see a Star Wars film?

Just because some people believe that it's true?

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-03-02 11:36am

damnit. now i've got an idea of creating something like say. . ."The Jesus Christ Picture Show". we'll get the audience to dress in costume and re-enact scenes in the movie. and it'll be a musical, like the rocky horror picture show!

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » 2004-03-02 11:52am

What would be good, is to get one of your friends to go to the movie with you, and you get him to dress up as Jesus and you dress up as the devil(or visa-versa).

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2004-03-02 12:07pm

I would go watch this movie dressed as a flamboyantly Satanist Goth... But I won't for three reasons:

1. I'm a cheap bastard.
2. I value my life.
3. I really, really REALLY don't want to see that movie.

Cornelius · Post by **Cornelius** » 2004-03-02 01:08pm

while someone who is actively doing something obnoxious can actually PRESS CHARGES over similar actions.

I do not really think that the kid did anything wrong, but then you would have to say that about anyone whom you found to be "offensive" in some way. Where do you draw the line at what people consider offensive?

The peopel had no right to throw anything at him. The candy could have hit his eye. He could have been seriously injured by flying drink. That's just wrong. He didn't assault or batter anyone.

I might think it is offensive when people dress up as halloween costumes. It doesn't mean I go out and beat the shit out of them.

Wouldn't attacking him because he was dressed as the devil be a violation of the constitutional rights of freedom of religion? Satanism is a religion isn't it? I don't know.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2004-03-02 01:27pm

Cornelius wrote:
while someone who is actively doing something obnoxious can actually PRESS CHARGES over similar actions.
I do not really think that the kid did anything wrong, but then you would have to say that about anyone whom you found to be "offensive" in some way. Where do you draw the line at what people consider offensive?

The peopel had no right to throw anything at him. The candy could have hit his eye. He could have been seriously injured by flying drink. That's just wrong. He didn't assault or batter anyone.

No, he "only" went out with the express intention of causing a public disturbance. Trying to anger people and ruin their moviegoing experience. BY HIS OWN WORDS, he was trolling for a reaction. He wasn't there to enjoy the movie, just to bother people.

Throwing a glass of pop on him was over the top, though.

I might think it is offensive when people dress up as halloween costumes. It doesn't mean I go out and beat the shit out of them.

You're seriously equating throwing candy at the guy with beating the shit out of him? How weak is your constitution, anyway?

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