Physical Violence

[Kuja]

You haven't been in a fight? Congratulations you are a winner in the Game of Life. Anyone who has started a Fight or has not run away/talked their way out when the opportunity presented itself is a Loser. That's it basically.

Come back and say that the day you get surrounded by gang members who push you back into the fight when you try and get away.

[The Duchess of Zeon]

You haven't been in a fight? Congratulations you are a winner in the Game of Life. Anyone who has started a Fight or has not run away/talked their way out when the opportunity presented itself is a Loser. That's it basically.

Come back and say that the day you get surrounded by gang members who push you back into the fight when you try and get away.

Well, obviously there is a time for fighting.

[Kuja]

Of course. It's when every other option fails. The only way to be a loser is when fighting's your FIRST option.

[Evil Sadistic Bastard]

You haven't been in a fight? Congratulations you are a winner in the Game of Life. Anyone who has started a Fight or has not run away/talked their way out when the opportunity presented itself is a Loser. That's it basically.

Come back and say that the day you get surrounded by gang members who push you back into the fight when you try and get away.

Don't you people understand that there is a time for peaceful reconciliation and a time for bloodshed and slaughter of the other party? Being surrounded by gangers doing what Iggy did or a bunch of other belligerents is a time for the second.

[Rob Wilson]

You haven't been in a fight? Congratulations you are a winner in the Game of Life. Anyone who has started a Fight or has not run away/talked their way out when the opportunity presented itself is a Loser. That's it basically.

Come back and say that the day you get surrounded by gang members who push you back into the fight when you try and get away.

Could you run away? Could you talk your way out? Did you start the fight? By the sounds of it - NO. So what's the problem with what i wrote? If the answer somehow was Yes, then you're a Loser. If you had to fight as there was no alternative then you still qualify as a winner.

[aerius]

You haven't been in a fight? Congratulations you are a winner in the Game of Life. Anyone who has started a Fight or has not run away/talked their way out when the opportunity presented itself is a Loser. That's it basically.

Come back and say that the day you get surrounded by gang members who push you back into the fight when you try and get away.

Emphasis on "when the opportunity presented itself". Sometimes it's not there, and sometimes it's not an option, as in the gang scenario you pointed out. I can honestly say that violence is the only choice when you're surrounded by a gang that's out for blood, there's no talking or walking away from that shit, you can only try to avoid getting into the situation in the first place or if that fails try to take as many of them out to create an exit.

[Kuja]

Could you run away? Could you talk your way out? Did you start the fight? By the sounds of it - NO. So what's the problem with what i wrote? If the answer somehow was Yes, then you're a Loser. If you had to fight as there was no alternative then you still qualify as a winner.

Then you should have clarified that, ne?

[Darth Wong]

It was quite clear the first time around.

[Darth Wong]

I don't know about you, Iggy, and I can't say. However, I have noted that a lot of the people who I've encountered who find themselves "forced" to fight have a funny habit of getting themselves into these situations. Why doesn't it happen to everyone?

[Rob Wilson]

Could you run away? Could you talk your way out? Did you start the fight? By the sounds of it - NO. So what's the problem with what i wrote? If the answer somehow was Yes, then you're a Loser. If you had to fight as there was no alternative then you still qualify as a winner.

Then you should have clarified that, ne?

I did. It was right there in my post, everyone else spotted it "when the opportunity presented itself".

If you missed it, no biggie as it's cleared up now.

[Kuja]

Guess so. *shrug*

[Rob Wilson]

I don't know about you, Iggy, and I can't say. However, I have noted that a lot of the people who I've encountered who find themselves "forced" to fight have a funny habit of getting themselves into these situations. Why doesn't it happen to everyone?

I appreciate the assist Mike, but Environment and chance are a big factor. You live in gang territory then there's always a chance that you're going to get in a sticky situation that you simply cannot control. Plus if a friend is in trouble and you go to help them and thn get stuck yourself...

If your going to tar Iggy with that brush you have to do me too as i doubt anyone here has been in as many physical confrontations as myself, and I wasn't always the wronged party.

yes that makes me a Loser, everyone. and probably the biggest one here. Accept and move on. I have.

[Darth Wong]

I appreciate the assist Mike, but Environment and chance are a big factor. You live in gang territory then there's always a chance that you're going to get in a sticky situation that you simply cannot control. Plus if a friend is in trouble and you go to help them and thn get stuck yourself...

True enough. I reiterate that I don't know enough about Iggy's particular situation to say. But it is still true that an awful lot of people who get into fights (particularly bar fights) have a habit of pretending they'd done nothing to instigate it after the fact.

[Kuja]

I don't know about you, Iggy, and I can't say. However, I have noted that a lot of the people who I've encountered who find themselves "forced" to fight have a funny habit of getting themselves into these situations. Why doesn't it happen to everyone?

Mike, I'm assuming you want to a halfway decent high- and middle- school.

Sometimes in a bad school there's NOTHING, no matter how or what you try, you can do to avoid a fight. The punks just want it and there's no way t otalk them out of it. Running is only a temporary solution. I'll do everything in my power to avoid a fight, but when I'm backed into a corner with no other options, I'll trash whoever wants to get physical.

[Rob Wilson]

But it is still true that an awful lot of people who get into fights (particularly bar fights) have a habit of pretending they'd done nothing to instigate it after the fact.

"honest guv'nor he headbutted my fist repeatedly. I didn't do nuffin'."


Yeah, there's more than a few poor souls who always manage to get into fights, especially when drunk. I obviously mis-read the last part of your original statement (must be contagious )

[Ted]

Rob, you're in the British Army, right?

Were you ever deployed to Northern Ireland?

[aerius]

But it is still true that an awful lot of people who get into fights (particularly bar fights) have a habit of pretending they'd done nothing to instigate it after the fact.

There's people I know who go to seedy bars hoping to get involved in a bar fight. I can see how it might work to blow off stress or take out excessive aggression, but honestly, there's much better ways of going around it.

[Evil Sadistic Bastard]

But it is still true that an awful lot of people who get into fights (particularly bar fights) have a habit of pretending they'd done nothing to instigate it after the fact.

There's people I know who go to seedy bars hoping to get involved in a bar fight. I can see how it might work to blow off stress or take out excessive aggression, but honestly, there's much better ways of going around it.

I recall Don Corleone saying something like this in The Godfather.

"There are people in this world who have the desire to get killed. You see them everywhere - these are the people who jump out of their cars at the slightest provocation, who go around bars looking for trouble, never paying attention to how many or how well armed their attackers may be."

[The Duchess of Zeon]

There's people I know who go to seedy bars hoping to get involved in a bar fight. I can see how it might work to blow off stress or take out excessive aggression, but honestly, there's much better ways of going around it.

There's a difference between using violence to resolve problems and just getting drunk and throwing a few with your friends as a method of relaxation. Or so I've been assured by many people.

[aerius]

There's a difference between using violence to resolve problems and just getting drunk and throwing a few with your friends as a method of relaxation. Or so I've been assured by many people.

That's what they tell me too. They say that they know what they're doing, and that no one really gets hurt too bad. I don't know about that, they're going out and getting into bar fights with complete strangers, and generous amounts of alcohol are involved. Sounds like a goatfuck to me, and it's a small miracle that no one's been killed or seriously maimed yet.

[Rob Wilson]

Rob, you're in the British Army, right?

Were you ever deployed to Northern Ireland?

Yes, me and every other soldier in the British Army at some point in their service life.

[Rob Wilson]

But it is still true that an awful lot of people who get into fights (particularly bar fights) have a habit of pretending they'd done nothing to instigate it after the fact.

There's people I know who go to seedy bars hoping to get involved in a bar fight. I can see how it might work to blow off stress or take out excessive aggression, but honestly, there's much better ways of going around it.

Yeah, punchbags work fine and you rarely get arrested for hitting them.

[Kuja]

That's what they tell me too. They say that they know what they're doing, (they don't)and that no one really gets hurt too bad. (who goes to the hospital for broken bones and gashes, anyway?) I don't know about that, they're going out and getting into bar fights with complete strangers, and generous amounts of alcohol are involved. (not to mention the possibility of being beaten with a club) Sounds like a goatfuck to me, and it's a small miracle that no one's been killed or seriously maimed yet. no kidding)

[Zaia]

You've never been in a kat fight!?!

Nope, not ever. Everyone loves me. *bats eyelashes*

[Darth Wong]

You've never been in a kat fight!?!

Nope, not ever. Everyone loves me. *bats eyelashes*

Besides, cat fights are not sexy if there's actual violence. We men like catfights to be just like they are in our dreams: a little bit of swearing and hair-pulling, followed by nakedness and lesbian sex.