NHL 2006/2007 Thread

Specialist · Post by **Specialist** » 2007-05-14 11:19pm

Speaking of PP, did you see the one Buffalo had near the end of the 2nd period and let Ottawa get a 2-0 breakaway! I was lmao.

Afterwards the sens player faked a high sticking.. you could tell the announcer didn't want to talk about it since it was so obvious.

J · Post by J » 2007-05-15 01:56pm

The strange thing is, despite how well the Sens are playing I can never shake the nagging feeling that they're about to pull off an epic choke and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

President Sharky · Post by **President Sharky** » 2007-05-15 09:12pm

No, save the epic choke for the Stanley Cup Final, where I foresee them falling to either Detroit or Anaheim.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2007-05-15 10:06pm

Things aren't looking good for the Ducks, who are down 2-0 after the end of the 1st period. Buffalo & Anaheim were the teams most people picked to make the Cup finals, it ain't looking too good for either team right now, especially Buffalo.

edit: It's getting ugly now. Wings up 4-0 at the end of the 2nd, but Pronger & Niedermayer crunched Holmstrom into the boards and knocked him out for the rest of the period.

Archon · Post by **Archon** » 2007-05-16 12:35am

Whoever wins the Stanley Cup, it had better not be Todd Bertuzzi's team. He is a disgrace to the sport. Having his name engraved would be a travesty.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2007-05-16 10:29am

Something tells me Darth Fanboy ain't gonna be too happy with last night's results. Ducks blanked 5-0, Rob Niedermayer's gone for a game misconduct, and NHL is thinking about suspending Pronger as well for his part on the Holmstrom hit. Ducks powerplay is also about as dead as the Buffalo PP, which is to say not a single goal in the entire series. You can't win hockey games that way.

General Trelane (Retired) · Post by **General Trelane (Retired)** » 2007-05-16 10:42am

aerius wrote:Rob Niedermayer's gone for a game misconduct, and NHL is thinking about suspending Pronger as well for his part on the Holmstrom hit.

Niedermayer was in the wrong place at the wrong time. . .Pronger should have gotten that penalty. And yes, the NHL should suspend with for that dirty hit.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2007-05-16 01:05pm

Typical Wing-Friendly NHL. We'll get them back, although that was the worst game of any sport i've ever been to in my life.

J · Post by J » 2007-05-16 08:00pm

Pronger gets a one game suspension for his part in the Holmstrom hit, Don Cherry grudgingly agrees with the NHL.

Archon · Post by **Archon** » 2007-05-17 05:19am

As far as I am concerned, the Ducks should play "more physical" with the Red Wings. If you are going to get called for it, make it count.

NOTE: Hopefully they keep it as "clean" as possible. No Bertuzzi like incidents please.

EDIT: Disregard the now edited out first part of this post. I was mistaken.

General Trelane (Retired) · Post by **General Trelane (Retired)** » 2007-05-17 10:03am

Archon wrote:Hopefully they keep it as "clean" as possible. No Bertuzzi like incidents please.

By suspending Pronger, hopefully the NHL has avoided a Bertuzzi-like incident (or another Bertuzzi incident).

I hear people arguing that Holmstrom didn't have his helmet on right, but that doesn't change the fact that Pronger planted an elbow into the back of his head and drove it into the boards. The one-game suspension is well-earned, imo.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2007-05-17 10:18am

General Trelane (Retired) wrote:I hear people arguing that Holmstrom didn't have his helmet on right, but that doesn't change the fact that Pronger planted an elbow into the back of his head and drove it into the boards.

They replayed it a bunch of times on Coach's Corner and Don Cherry showed the clip where it was clear that Holmstrom had his helmet on right. Holmstrom is probably the only guy in the NHL who tightens the chinstrap on his helmet, and it would take a pretty nasty hit to pop his helmet off.

Archon · Post by **Archon** » 2007-05-17 11:15am

Alfredsson should have been suspended as well for his hit on Briere. Colon Campbell's Spinning Wheel of Justice strikes again.

IMHO, any hit from behind or elbow to the head should be an automatic one game suspension.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2007-05-17 01:46pm

aerius wrote:They replayed it a bunch of times on Coach's Corner and Don Cherry showed the clip where it was clear that Holmstrom had his helmet on right. Holmstrom is probably the only guy in the NHL who tightens the chinstrap on his helmet, and it would take a pretty nasty hit to pop his helmet off.

Hooray! I can post again.

Anyway, I still haven't posted since the Sharks lost, so:

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I do agree with the suspension of Pronger, though. It's pretty clear-cut, IMO, that a player with a hit that vicious from behind gets suspended. The refs got the wrong guy in penalizing Niedermeyer (though I have no idea how you can mistake him for Pronger), but I'm glad that the League was willing to take action against one of its superstars like that.

General Trelane (Retired) · Post by **General Trelane (Retired)** » 2007-05-17 02:51pm

Archon wrote:Alfredsson should have been suspended as well for his hit on Briere. Colon Campbell's Spinning Wheel of Justice strikes again.

IMHO, any hit from behind or elbow to the head should be an automatic one game suspension.

I honestly didn't see that one, but I agree. The NHL needs to clamp down on dangerous play, and they need to do it consistently. Suspending Pronger for one game during the playoffs is a good start, but they can't pick and choose whom to penalize.

Personally, I think certain other hits should be penalized too even though they are technically 'clean' (e.g. Steve Moore on Markus Naslund a few years ago).

aerius wrote:They replayed it a bunch of times on Coach's Corner and Don Cherry showed the clip where it was clear that Holmstrom had his helmet on right. Holmstrom is probably the only guy in the NHL who tightens the chinstrap on his helmet, and it would take a pretty nasty hit to pop his helmet off.

I missed that. But Carlyle has been gabbing on and on about Holmstrom not having his helmet on propperly and that it had come off 4 times during that game. That's completely a red herring. Whether or not the helmet was on right is irrelevant.

Other Ducks are whining because Pronger didn't get the on-ice penalty but now gets suspended:

Canada.com wrote:"It's hard to know really what's going on," said Scott Niedermayer. "I mean, my brother [Rob] got the penalty. They're talking to Chris now. Anybody else they want to bring in? Maybe they should talk to Holmstrom, as well. I don't know what [the league is] doing. The call last night was five minutes to Rob Niedermayer. Today they're talking to Chris. Does that make sense to anybody?"

It makes perfect sense to me. The NHL doesn't use video replay for assessing penalties, but it does for assessing suspensions. The replay clearly shows that Pronger was the culpirt on this hit. Niedermayer was wrongly penalized during the game, but that doesn't mean the Pronger should be clear and free just because the wrong person was penalized.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2007-05-17 06:02pm

Master of Ossus wrote: but I'm glad that the League was willing to take action against one of its superstars like that.

Only because it happened to their favorite team. The Red Wings get every break they could want and since they also have talent it generally translates into a great winning percentage. If this had been a Wings player hitting Pronger or Scott Niedermayer nothing would have came of it. Colin Campbell's handling of the various suspensions for every player this year, save for the Simon/Hollweg situation, has been a joke.

muse · Post by **muse** » 2007-05-17 07:15pm

My thoughts on Colin Campbell and the NHL diciplinary committee: A broken clock is still right twice a day.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2007-05-18 06:30pm

I only found out a couple of says ago about a song by rapper Belly about the Sens.

GO SENS GO

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2007-05-18 06:41pm

Is this the end? Are the Sens on the way to an epic choke job? Stay tuned for tonight's edition of Hockey Night in Canada!

Post by **Kuja** » 2007-05-18 08:13pm

At the moment I hold little ultimate hope, but I'm glad that Buffalo at least will not go out on a complete sweep.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2007-05-18 10:51pm

aerius wrote:Is this the end? Are the Sens on the way to an epic choke job? Stay tuned for tonight's edition of Hockey Night in Canada!

The game is not on until tomorrow at 2p.m.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2007-05-19 05:32pm

WHOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Sens win in overtime! Finally they advance to the finals!

muse · Post by **muse** » 2007-05-19 07:37pm

If history is correct, it's actually a good thing that they lost a game. They were mentioning a few nights back that no team which had swept the Conference Finals and then waited a bunch of days for the other Conference series to finish had ever won a Stanley Cup.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2007-05-20 12:41am

muse wrote:If history is correct, it's actually a good thing that they lost a game. They were mentioning a few nights back that no team which had swept the Conference Finals and then waited a bunch of days for the other Conference series to finish had ever won a Stanley Cup.

They'll still wait a bunch of days, because Game six won't be over for the West until Tuesday at the earliest.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2007-05-21 11:51am

Ducks get a chance to close out the series at home after Lilja coughed up the puck in front of the Detroit net in OT and Selanne took the freebie and roofed it past Hasek for the game winner. That was a sweet goal, Hasek goes diving to try an make a save while Selanne goes high on the backhand and not only scores the goal, but gets a direct hit on Hasek's waterbottle and sends it flying.