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Flyers acquire, sign Hartnell and Timonen

A trade and sign by the Flyers.
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When I first saw this, it made me smile. EVen though I know we're going to have to lose Bryzgalov.
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Giguere > Bryzgalov.

I think Giguere brings more to the table in the leadership than Bryzgalov. Plus he is a better goalie.


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Draft Day Deals

News for Leafs Nation and MoO

Do the Leafs finally get a goalie?

It looks like San Jose just dumped about $3.5 million in salary. Gearing up to sign Hannan and/or Stuart, perhaps?



Panthers get Vokoun from Predators

Chris Mason is now Goalie in Nashville.
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This will definitely hamper the Sharks chances of retaking the Pacific. I always thought Toskala was better than Nabokov and nowadays unless you're Vancouver or New Jersey you have to have a decent PAIR of goalies to succeed.
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Messier headlines HHOF Class of 2007

Al MacInnis (player)
Mark Messier (player)
Ron Francis (player)
Scott Stevens (player)
Jim Gregory (builder)

Good to see Chopper get in, he was my favorite player of all time. One of the best and most underrated defenseman of all time as well. Congrats to Al MacInnis and the rest of them.

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Kipper usually plays tons of games during the regular season as well. I also think Giguere is quite capable of playing 70+. Turco as well.
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Archon wrote: Kipper usually plays tons of games during the regular season as well. I also think Giguere is quite capable of playing 70+. Turco as well.
Kipper is capable of playing, but you saw this season where there were stretches when he needed a break. A deserved one, because playing goalie for the Calgary Flames last year was a lot like trying to win a marathon while carrying a backpack filled with bricks. It was possible to succeed but not in the long run. Calgary is one of those teams that needs a solid backup, especially if Kipper is injured. If Luongo or Bropdeur is hurt for any stretch of time next year, their respective clubs will sink miserably.

Giguere is not a 70+ games a year player, he has always had hydration issues and seems to get hit with some sort of injury each year. That's not his fault, when he's healthy he is an elite goaltender, but he's not always healthy. Ilya Bryzgalov helped save our season, especially by picking up those three huge wins against Minnesota in the playoffs. I'll maybe give you the Turco one, except I still think of him as a huge choker even though his performance this year in the playoffs was superb.


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Archon wrote: Kipper usually plays tons of games during the regular season as well. I also think Giguere is quite capable of playing 70+. Turco as well.
Kipper is capable of playing, but you saw this season where there were stretches when he needed a break. A deserved one, because playing goalie for the Calgary Flames last year was a lot like trying to win a marathon while carrying a backpack filled with bricks. It was possible to succeed but not in the long run. Calgary is one of those teams that needs a solid backup, especially if Kipper is injured. If Luongo or Bropdeur is hurt for any stretch of time next year, their respective clubs will sink miserably.

Giguere is not a 70+ games a year player, he has always had hydration issues and seems to get hit with some sort of injury each year. That's not his fault, when he's healthy he is an elite goaltender, but he's not always healthy. Ilya Bryzgalov helped save our season, especially by picking up those three huge wins against Minnesota in the playoffs. I'll maybe give you the Turco one, except I still think of him as a huge choker even though his performance this year in the playoffs was superb.


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I will give you Giguere, you know more about him than I do. I had no idea about the hydration issues.

Kipper has played 74 games 2 seasons in a row and has looked good doing it. One of the problems in Calgary over the last 2 seasons was that we didn't have a backup who could handle even 10 games well.

Turco went a long way towards excorsizing his playoff demons this season but he has to do it again next time around. The Dallas Stars certainly didn't lose because of him in 2007.
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Archon wrote: I will give you Giguere, you know more about him than I do. I had no idea about the hydration issues.
One of the biggest things that dogged him throughout his career is that he'd dehydrate and end up cramping up late in games. He's also had a couple of little injuries that, although they aren't hampering to him anymore, caused him to miss plenty of playing time. If we didn't have Ilya Bryzgalov we'd be sunk, in fact we were without both goaltenders for a while and struggled a bit.
Kipper has played 74 games 2 seasons in a row and has looked good doing it. One of the problems in Calgary over the last 2 seasons was that we didn't have a backup who could handle even 10 games well.
Like I said, he's good, but how much better would it be for him and the Flames if you could confidently give him a night off every so often without it being a gut wrenching decision to do so? Plus, if he goes down, the Calgary D is almost sunk. It's even worse in Vancouver and NEw Jersey.
Turco went a long way towards excorsizing his playoff demons this season but he has to do it again next time around. The Dallas Stars certainly didn't lose because of him in 2007.
Agreed, but Turco hasn't necessairly performed all that spectacularly in critical games during the regular season as well. The Stars took quite a beating this year and are going to struggle to deal with Anaheim and San Jose 12 times each. That's over a quarter of the schedule dedicated to quite possibly two of the three most dangerous teams in the Western Conference, add in four more games against Detroit and that's 28 out of 82 games (over thirty percent of the schedule) against a team that can kick your ass regardless of the time and place.
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Mathieu Schneider just signed for two years with Anaheim. Does this mean Niedameyer is retiring?
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Coop D'etat wrote:Mathieu Schneider just signed for two years with Anaheim. Does this mean Niedameyer is retiring?
He apparently told Ducks management that he was leaning towards retirement, but hasn't made a final decision yet.

As for Toskala, I'm not worried. The Sharks always have plenty of goaltending talent in the pipe, and we got to deal Schaefer this year too because we have another guy who's ready to come up. Hannan is the much bigger loss, since the Sharks didn't really have a number 1 defensemen with him, but we had three or four guys that could play as a number 2 defensemen. I hope Ty Wishart is as good as he's billed, and that Pickles keeps improving with age.
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One of my favorite Ex-Ducksm, Peter Sykora, goes to Pittsburgh while one of my least favorite players of all time comes to the Ducks.

Todd Bertuzzi will be wearing the Black and Orange, this makes me pretty ill.
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Iginla, Regehr staying with Flames.

Excellent. Two future UFA players down, one to go. They have reasonable contracts as well.
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My HAtred for the Edmonton Oilers has rekindled, just when I thought it was subsiding. Kevin Lowe is a douchebag and I hope that we just absolutely destroy them again next season.
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Oilers GM Kevin Lowe made an offer sheet to Dustin Penner for $4.5 Million per year for 4 years, which is well more than Penner is worth (he only made $450,000 per year last season, which was considered his rookie year). So now the Ducks must either pony up the cash, which would pretty much guarantee we couldn't re-sign Selanne and force us to dump salary if Scott Niedermayer doesn't retire (I hope he doesn't).

It's similar to the Vanek deal the Oilers made trying to get him away from Buffalo, where they offer an obscenely large Offer Sheet to an RFA with the hope that the other team will balk at paying it. Lowe is also good friends with Ducks GM Brian Burke, and supposedly this was all done behind Burke's back without any kind of contact between the two GMs. I don't know a lot of the specifics, but this move has a lot of people riled up and not just here in SoCal (home of the Stanley Cup).

GMs all over the league seem to be making moves, eithe rsending players to arbitration or trying to sign them fast to avoid dealing with Lowe's antics.
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You should love the Oilers for this one Fanboy. If Burke decides not to match then the Ducks get the Oilers 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks in a deep draft. This move was an incredibly stupid one by Lowe.

IMHO, Penner is expendable. Bertuzzi replaces him for a season after which Bobby Ryan can come in and possibly make an impact.
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Lowe signed Ducks' RFA Dustin Penner to an offer sheet.

I don' blame Lowe. He's flat out desperate. He can't even get players who have a verbal agreement to sign the actual contract! Ever since Proger bloted from the town no UFA wanted to go there anymore
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Archon wrote:You should love the Oilers for this one Fanboy. If Burke decides not to match then the Ducks get the Oilers 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks in a deep draft. This move was an incredibly stupid one by Lowe.
Oh don't get me wrong, I would not mind the compensation one bit. But Penner is slowly developing into a fan favorite down here, and we don't want to see him go although the reality of the situation makes that inescapable. Burke with three additional draft picks next year guaranttes the Ducks an opportunity to make some kind of deal or to get some top talent, especially if the Oilers tank hard.
IMHO, Penner is expendable. Bertuzzi replaces him for a season after which Bobby Ryan can come in and possibly make an impact.
We have Niedermayer and Selanne to worry about at the moent, and if Scotty and Teemu both stay we will have to dump at least some salary.
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