Most British Beer contains Fish!

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Ma Deuce wrote:
Dalton wrote:Vegetables are grown from cow shit. *shrug*
But unlike fish scales, you generally don't have to kill cows to get their shit :wink:.
This is true.
Batman wrote:And since we both admit we're willing to eat the cow it originally came from, your point is...?
No real point. Just pointing out that animal byproducts are used for quite a lot of things. No need to be so combatitive, I'm not arguing your point.
Plekhanov wrote:To extent your use of military terminology do you really not see the qualitative difference between deliberately killing civilians for now good reason on the one hand and accepting that civilians may die as “collateral damage” whilst you pursue legitimate objectives whilst taking reasonable steps to minimise civilian casualties?
Oh, sure. But since we're talking about animals here and not human beings, I just find it a bit harder to see why killing animals via toxic runoff from pesticides and clear-cutting forested areas for farmland (i.e. "collateral damage") are any different than killing animals for food. I mean, I certainly don't have a problem with your decision, and I do understand your concerns, but I don't really agree with your justification.
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Plekhanov wrote:To extent your use of military terminology do you really not see the qualitative difference between deliberately killing civilians for now good reason on the one hand and accepting that civilians may die as “collateral damage” whilst you pursue legitimate objectives whilst taking reasonable steps to minimise civilian casualties?
If your very objective is to save such lives, it is quite silly. Instead of killing a few cows that wouldn't have been even born if not for the meat industry, you're destroying entire ecosystems and thus killing wildlife that are just minding their own business (and who nobody is breeding).

Killing the people you're trying to "rescue" doesn't count as collateral damage.
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since beer has fish in it what other surprises will be discovered?
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Slartibartfast wrote:If your very objective is to save such lives, it is quite silly. Instead of killing a few cows that wouldn't have been even born if not for the meat industry, you're destroying entire ecosystems and thus killing wildlife that are just minding their own business (and who nobody is breeding).

Killing the people you're trying to "rescue" doesn't count as collateral damage.
Even if my “objective” in being a vegetarian was to save lives (which it isn’t read the damn thread which should also inform you of my thoughts on animals bred for the meat industry) your argument makes no sense.

Where do you think the food that animals eat to turn into meat that we in turn eat comes from? It comes from the same damn ecosystem that I’m apparently ruining, you have to put a lot more calories into a cow than you eventually get out of it in the form of meat. Many of those calories come from food grown in exactly the same way as the food I eat, in fact a great deal of land is used to grow food for animals in the meat industry, it would take far less land to feed people directly.

So as a veggie I have less impact on the environment (and the animals “minding their own business” within it) than if I went back to eating meat. Try again that really was too easy
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I can live with that I’m only morally responsible for my own actions, if you want to eat 3 toucans for every 1 I don’t that’s your business.

Just to help you make good your pledge I ate a short while ago and I didn’t eat a cow, sheep, pig, chimp, squirrel, chicken, trout… the list goes on that’s a whole lot of animals you better get eating
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[Plekhanov, yu should join CAMRA!!! :D :D :D
Most of those ales are mighty fine, and the Ayerlinger lagers are usually found in any Sam Smiths pub! It seems you need to avoid drinknig the cheap crap and go for the cheap quality stuff instead. And yes, I HAVE drunk most of the drinks on that reccomended list. Usually wth a steak or a BLT :twisted:
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