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Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-11 03:44am

The Dark wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Any chance the US would name a ship something like Yamato?
Not while any WWII vets are alive. The ruckus they'd raise would be so loud you'd hear people from Hawaii all the way in Maine. Especially when one of the Hawaiian senators fought in the war.

That's unfortunate. I happen to think it's a beautiful name for a naval vessel.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2002-12-11 03:49am

RadiO wrote:There isn't a Farragut in the USN anymore; seems strange, given that it's a traditional destroyer name (including what was probably the first US destroyer) coupled with the many Burkes building.

First destroyer? DD1 was Bainbridge (although there were destroyers before the numbering system, I just don't have access to my copy of Conway's right now).

BTW, since the beginning of the modern numbering system, there have been three DD-type Farraguts. DD300 was a Clemson-class ship, decomissioned 1 April 1930. DD348 was a Farragut-class, decomissioned 23 October 1945. The most recent was the DDG37, a Coontz-class destroyer, decomissioned 31 October 1989.

RadiO · Post by **RadiO** » 2002-12-11 04:09am

The Dark wrote:
RadiO wrote:There isn't a Farragut in the USN anymore; seems strange, given that it's a traditional destroyer name (including what was probably the first US destroyer) coupled with the many Burkes building.
First destroyer? DD1 was Bainbridge (although there were destroyers before the numbering system, I just don't have access to my copy of Conway's right now).

The original Farragut was a torpedo boat (TB11) but is apparenty considered to be the first US destroyer on grounds of her size and displacement (which I read in Conway's, funnily enough; the 1860-1905 edition's one of the most interesting books I've read in a long time

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BTW, since the beginning of the modern numbering system, there have been three DD-type Farraguts. DD300 was a Clemson-class ship, decomissioned 1 April 1930. DD348 was a Farragut-class, decomissioned 23 October 1945. The most recent was the DDG37, a Coontz-class destroyer, decomissioned 31 October 1989.

I was just surprised that that particular name hadn't made a return in a destroyer program as large as the Burke class - although I suppose there's a lot of potential names not used as yet. Is there a policy where warship names are "rested" for a period before being reused?[/quote]

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2002-12-11 04:22am

RadiO wrote:
The Dark wrote:
RadiO wrote:There isn't a Farragut in the USN anymore; seems strange, given that it's a traditional destroyer name (including what was probably the first US destroyer) coupled with the many Burkes building.
First destroyer? DD1 was Bainbridge (although there were destroyers before the numbering system, I just don't have access to my copy of Conway's right now).
The original Farragut was a torpedo boat (TB11) but is apparenty considered to be the first US destroyer on grounds of her size and displacement (which I read in Conway's, funnily enough; the 1860-1905 edition's one of the most interesting books I've read in a long time )

That's the one I'm talking about, my college library has a copy (and I think I'm the only one to check it out in the last two years). The difference in design philosophy between the US and Europe is rather interesting.

BTW, since the beginning of the modern numbering system, there have been three DD-type Farraguts. DD300 was a Clemson-class ship, decomissioned 1 April 1930. DD348 was a Farragut-class, decomissioned 23 October 1945. The most recent was the DDG37, a Coontz-class destroyer, decomissioned 31 October 1989.

I was just surprised that that particular name hadn't made a return in a destroyer program as large as the Burke class - although I suppose there's a lot of potential names not used as yet. Is there a policy where warship names are "rested" for a period before being reused?[/quote][/quote]

Not that I know of, but the old Farragut's not scrapped yet (AFAIK), so there may be a group trying to rescue it as a museum ship, which could delay naming a new ship for some reason. Some of the Arleigh Burke names are fairly obvious (or at least to people like me who read military history books for fun): the John Paul Jones, the Fitzgerald, the The Sullivans, the Decatur. All relatively well-known names. Others I have no clue about. There are 13 unnamed Burkes right now, though, so one could well be a future Farragut (I'm hoping DDG100...easy to remember).

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-12-11 08:01am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
The Dark wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Any chance the US would name a ship something like Yamato?
Not while any WWII vets are alive. The ruckus they'd raise would be so loud you'd hear people from Hawaii all the way in Maine. Especially when one of the Hawaiian senators fought in the war.
That's unfortunate. I happen to think it's a beautiful name for a naval vessel.

Maybe, but it was the instrument of war of one of our worst enemies. Cool name or not it'll never ever be on a US ship.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2002-12-11 10:42am

When will we see the USS Bill Clinton?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-12-11 01:19pm

jegs2 wrote:When will we see the USS Bill Clinton?

If we do, it'll be on a ship that won't be under the spotlight of the media, like how Carter got SSN-23 .

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2002-12-11 01:52pm

When are we gonna see the USS Walter Mondale ( a laundry ship ). ?

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2002-12-11 01:56pm

TrailerParkJawa wrote:When are we gonna see the USS Walter Mondale ( a laundry ship ). ?

It would be USNS

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-12-11 02:14pm

Stormbringer wrote: Maybe, but it was the instrument of war of one of our worst enemies. Cool name or not it'll never ever be on a US ship.

Heh, it's because it's a Non US Name......

Now, USS Virginia

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-12-11 02:27pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Stormbringer wrote: Maybe, but it was the instrument of war of one of our worst enemies. Cool name or not it'll never ever be on a US ship.
Heh, it's because it's a Non US Name......

Now, USS Virginia

Slated to be the first of the NSSNs, I think.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-11 02:28pm

Is there a USS Alabama (I speak of course of any descendants of the CSS Alabama)

Other Names

Frank Exchange of Views
Killing Time
Attitude adjuster
Anihalator
Devastator
Eradicator
Excruciator
Exterminator
Fornicator
Infinite Justice (ha)
Irritator (something small)
Judiciator
Killer
Narrator

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-12-11 02:35pm

NecronLord wrote:Is there a USS Alabama (I speak of course of any descendants of the CSS Alabama)

I think it was a new-build battleship during WW2

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-12-11 02:40pm

MKSheppard wrote:
NecronLord wrote:Is there a USS Alabama (I speak of course of any descendants of the CSS Alabama)
I think it was a new-build battleship during WW2

There's also SSBN731

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-12-11 02:53pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
The Dark wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Any chance the US would name a ship something like Yamato?
Not while any WWII vets are alive. The ruckus they'd raise would be so loud you'd hear people from Hawaii all the way in Maine. Especially when one of the Hawaiian senators fought in the war.
That's unfortunate. I happen to think it's a beautiful name for a naval vessel.

Japan has one of the world's largest navies with some 70 major surface combatants. Petition them to name one Yamato.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-12-11 02:56pm

phongn wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:
Stormbringer wrote: Maybe, but it was the instrument of war of one of our worst enemies. Cool name or not it'll never ever be on a US ship.
Heh, it's because it's a Non US Name......

Now, USS Virginia
Slated to be the first of the NSSNs, I think.

It IS the first NSSN, and the class will carry that name.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-12-11 02:57pm

MKSheppard wrote:
NecronLord wrote:Is there a USS Alabama (I speak of course of any descendants of the CSS Alabama)
I think it was a new-build battleship during WW2

BB.60, a South Dakota class battleship, currently a museum at Mobile Alabama

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-11 03:00pm

To add to my list; blatantly ripped off from Battlefleet gothic.

Endevour
Endurance
Defiant (resembling in no friggin way the fed PoS, this one is a light carrier)
Falchion
Lunar
Dauntless
Firestorm
Retribution
Vengance
Dictator
Sword
Cobra
Overlord

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-11 03:01pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
phongn wrote:
MKSheppard wrote: Heh, it's because it's a Non US Name......

Now, USS Virginia
Slated to be the first of the NSSNs, I think.
It IS the first NSSN, and the class will carry that name.

NSSN?

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2002-12-11 03:18pm

phongn wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:
NecronLord wrote:Is there a USS Alabama (I speak of course of any descendants of the CSS Alabama)
I think it was a new-build battleship during WW2
There's also SSBN731

Umm...that was the boat on which "Crimson Tide" was set wasn't it?

KG

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-12-11 03:21pm

MKSheppard wrote:
NecronLord wrote:Is there a USS Alabama (I speak of course of any descendants of the CSS Alabama)
I think it was a new-build battleship during WW2

BB60 was just entering commision as the war began. There have been other Alabamas in additon to BB60.

http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/battlesh/bb60.htm

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-12-11 03:27pm

NecronLord wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
phongn wrote: Slated to be the first of the NSSNs, I think.
It IS the first NSSN, and the class will carry that name.
NSSN?

New SSN, the latest class of USN attack boats to make up for the tiny three-boat Seawolf production run. Virginia is the first and name ship of the class. She be completed in 2004 and commissioned in 2006.

http://www.naval-technology.com/project ... index.html

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-12-11 03:49pm

Face it we need more indimating Names, What do the Russians get? Nasty Scary IE Powerful Names like Death-Tide and Shark

And we GET

Bush!

Next ship out of the harbor over 500 Tons needs a better name

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-12-11 03:58pm

Mr Bean wrote:Face it we need more indimating Names, What do the Russians get? Nasty Scary IE Powerful Names like Death-Tide and Shark

And we GET

Bush!

Next ship out of the harbor over 500 Tons needs a better name

I believe the Russians made a stealth sub, and it was named Gepard, Russian for cheetah, but a Biritish newspaper reporting on it called it Gephardt, as in the House Minority Leader.

Post by **Coyote** » 2002-12-11 04:43pm

Face it, Spanks, we'll see USS Yamato about the same time we can expect to see USS Bismark.

I think we can name some ships after American cultural icons as well:

USS Skywalker (A Carrier)
USS Amidala (Aegis cruiser)
USS Kenobi (another Aegis)
USS Force of the Sith (have to be a battleship)
SSN Palpatine (Definitely something stealthy)

And I think we should change the National Anthem to the Imperial March, and play the Emperor's theme when the President appears.

The next tank could be called the M-4 Sandcrawler, and infantry troops will wear polished white armor.

The next time Osama bin-Laden gives us guff the President, in black robes, will go on TV with his hand over a red button and say "Commence Primary Ignition..."

Heeheehee...