Creul and Horrible things to do to your mind.

Singular Quartet · Post by **Singular Quartet** » 2003-01-15 10:39pm

BAsically, a list of things that will destroy vast amounts of your brain, your intelligence, and generally just twist and warp your mind. At present, I have only come up with the following:

Janeway Porn

Reading through the DarkStar debate

Marathon watching Serial Experiments: Lain

End of Evangelion

What are some others?

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2003-01-15 10:41pm

Knowing there is no absolute morality.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-01-15 10:44pm

Trying to reason with my mother.
Trying to eat my mother's cooking.
Watching 24 hours straight of Punky Brewster.

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-01-15 10:47pm

Being me off my meds.

Being me ON my meds.

Being within earshot of whatever drivel I'm currently spouting.

Having me look at you and try my "Grim Reaper" smile.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-01-15 10:47pm

The fact that people believe in things like creationism, moral relativism, and homeopathic medicine.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-01-15 10:50pm

The mind boggling stupidity of the people on DarkStar's feedback page.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-01-15 10:50pm

Exonerate wrote:Knowing there is no absolute morality.

Is that an absolute statement

? In ethics, we've actually "proven" (it's not mathematical, but it is logical) that some ethical ideas must be absolute for society to exist.

1. Children must be protected. Unless children are protected, they will die. If this occurs, the elders of the society will not be replaced. Upon their deaths, the society will cease to exist (witness the Shakers; celibacy has led to their extinction. I believe there are 6 Shakers still alive, all in their 70s).

2. Murder (cold-blooded murder, not self defense or war) must be immoral. Otherwise no person can trust another not to murder them. This would make cooperation impossible. Additionally, intelligent members of the civilization would attempt to get as far away from everybody else as possible, dispersing the society and leading to its termination.

3. Truth must be held as moral. Otherwise, there is no meaningful communication between people. One could not even ask the time of day and be assured that they now know when it is. The Enron scandal provides an example of why truth is an ideal that cultures must hold. In a society that does not believe truth is moral, they would have suffered no penalties, and corporations would be free to continue falsifying books.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-01-15 10:54pm

The Dark wrote:
Exonerate wrote:Knowing there is no absolute morality.
Is that an absolute statement ? In ethics, we've actually "proven" (it's not mathematical, but it is logical) that some ethical ideas must be absolute for society to exist.

1. Children must be protected. Unless children are protected, they will die. If this occurs, the elders of the society will not be replaced. Upon their deaths, the society will cease to exist (witness the Shakers; celibacy has led to their extinction. I believe there are 6 Shakers still alive, all in their 70s).

2. Murder (cold-blooded murder, not self defense or war) must be immoral. Otherwise no person can trust another not to murder them. This would make cooperation impossible. Additionally, intelligent members of the civilization would attempt to get as far away from everybody else as possible, dispersing the society and leading to its termination.

3. Truth must be held as moral. Otherwise, there is no meaningful communication between people. One could not even ask the time of day and be assured that they now know when it is. The Enron scandal provides an example of why truth is an ideal that cultures must hold. In a society that does not believe truth is moral, they would have suffered no penalties, and corporations would be free to continue falsifying books.

Dark, are you familiar with an essay by James Rachels called "Morality is not Relative"? Because he deals with the same stuff (taking care of infants, truth, murder) that you do here. Just curious.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-01-15 10:58pm

Dark, are you familiar with an essay by James Rachels called "Morality is not Relative"? Because he deals with the same stuff (taking care of infants, truth, murder) that you do here. Just curious.

We his The Challenge of Cultural Relativism for Ethics. It may be the same essay; it begins with the discussion of the Greeks and Callatians as described by Herodotus. Of course, only three of us read the assignment, so most of the class decided that ws important without reading it. We're also using Barbara MacKinnon's Ethics, James Fieser's Metaethics, Normative Ethics, and Applied Ethics, and Dr. Robert Zeuschner's Classical Ethics: East and West. Personally, I feel ethical values are mostly the same, but their expressions are different.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-01-15 11:00pm

The Dark wrote:
Dark, are you familiar with an essay by James Rachels called "Morality is not Relative"? Because he deals with the same stuff (taking care of infants, truth, murder) that you do here. Just curious.
We his The Challenge of Cultural Relativism for Ethics. It may be the same essay; it begins with the discussion of the Greeks and Callatians as described by Herodotus. Of course, only three of us read the assignment, so most of the class decided that ws important without reading it. We're also using Barbara MacKinnon's Ethics, James Fieser's Metaethics, Normative Ethics, and Applied Ethics, and Dr. Robert Zeuschner's Classical Ethics: East and West. Personally, I feel ethical values are mostly the same, but their expressions are different.

Yeah, that's the exact same article; I just read it not 30 minutes ago for my ethics class. Funny coincidence.

Sienthal · Post by **Sienthal** » 2003-01-15 11:17pm

Alcohol and other recreational type drugs
I know I'm going to get flak for that,

Singular Quartet · Post by **Singular Quartet** » 2003-01-16 12:32am

Durran Korr wrote:The fact that people believe in things like creationism, moral relativism, and homeopathic medicine.

Actually, all people are moral realativists.Its just that its part of your morals to believe that there are such things as Absolutemorals. However, since this is off-topic, I'll make a different thread for it.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-01-16 12:43am

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2003-01-16 01:15am

Revolutionary Girl Utena:The Movie
Dhalgren
Anytime Kaoru speaks during Evangelion

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2003-01-16 07:21am

Watching the 'Starship Troopers' movie expecting it to be a reasonable adaption of the novel. ARGH!

german soap opera

trying to make sense of Tori Amos lyrics

Coaan · Post by **Coaan** » 2003-01-16 07:37am

Watching british daytime tv

Watching European tv in general

Trying to reach that itchy spot on your back you -just- can't reach

Rathark · Post by **Rathark** » 2003-01-16 07:40am

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0098772

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-01-16 12:13pm

Reading Voyager pornfics, you'd be surprised how many of them involve Janeway.

Work at Customs screening porn, you either learn to laugh at the latest bondage/snuff/defecation/beastiality flick or you lose your mind.

Work in a place that's full of religious fundies trying to convert you, I'm surprised I didn't go postal.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-16 12:50pm

Marathon watching "Infinite Ryvius".
Reading Schleimacher.
Listing to my Database professor lecture.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-16 01:36pm

Singuler Quartet wrote:BAsically, a list of things that will destroy vast amounts of your brain, your intelligence, and generally just twist and warp your mind. At present, I have only come up with the following:

Reading and believing the Bible

Reading Darkstar's site

Watching Voyager

Watching Enterprise

Day time television (soaps, phsycos and skanks)

An Sci Fi Channel Original Movie actually by Sci Faker Channel

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-01-16 03:12pm

Batman wrote:Watching the 'Starship Troopers' movie expecting it to be a reasonable adaption of the novel. ARGH!

Watching the Starship Troopers director's commentary about how deep and meaningful and symbolic the whole thing is supposed to be.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-01-16 03:30pm

I find this stuff super-painful:

Reading anything by DarkStar
Reading fundie sites, as well as those Chick tracts
Reading just abot anything I don't agree with
Listening to annoying music

Singular Quartet · Post by **Singular Quartet** » 2003-01-16 03:35pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:Reading fundie sites, as well as those Chick tracts

Knew I missed something...

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2003-01-16 03:41pm

Godzilla's Revenge.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-01-16 04:46pm

boobyprise

socialists

french

french socialist boobyprise fans

StarDestroyer.Net BBS

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