The anti-SUV campaign

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-16 10:15pm

http://www.detroitproject.com/

Thoughts?

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-01-16 10:16pm

Thoughtless, manipulative bullshit.

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-01-16 10:17pm

Makes more sense than these "drug money fuels terrorism" ads.

jodathalas · Post by **jodathalas** » 2003-01-16 10:17pm

Anti-SUV? Thats funny. I have a friend in one of the othr forums I go to whos custome title is "Destroyer of SUV's."

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2003-01-16 10:18pm

Next time I see a guy in a SUV I'm gonna ram him with my car so he can't go fill up at the tank and cause terrorism!

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-01-16 10:18pm

I have SUV's in the city.. They piss me off!

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-16 10:47pm

Currently its legal to drive tanks on city streets in both the UK and USA, probably some other countries as well. Why don't the morons go attack people who drive vehicles that often get mileage measured in gallons per mile first?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-16 11:04pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:Currently its legal to drive tanks on city streets in both the UK and USA, probably some other countries as well. Why don't the morons go attack people who drive vehicles that often get mileage measured in gallons per mile first?

I don't often deal with tanks in the city. I do, however, routinely have to peer around some jack-ass in a gigantic Ford Expedition (spotlessly clean, with no passengers of course, having never seen anything but city streets in its lifetime) turning left on the opposite side of the intersection while I'm waiting to turn left going the other way. Why can't I go? Because I can't see around the fucking giant asshole to tell whether there's any goddamned traffic coming!!!

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-16 11:06pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:Currently its legal to drive tanks on city streets in both the UK and USA, probably some other countries as well. Why don't the morons go attack people who drive vehicles that often get mileage measured in gallons per mile first?
I don't often deal with tanks in the city. I do, however, routinely have to peer around some jack-ass in a gigantic Ford Expedition (spotlessly clean, with no passengers of course, having never seen anything but city streets in its lifetime) turning left on the opposite side of the intersection while I'm waiting to turn left going the other way. Why can't I go? Because I can't see around the fucking giant asshole to tell whether there's any goddamned traffic coming!!!

Invest in a periscope. You can get cars with FLIR and a HUD now, shouldn't be to much of a problume.

GrandMasterTerwynn · Post by **GrandMasterTerwynn** » 2003-01-16 11:10pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:Currently its legal to drive tanks on city streets in both the UK and USA, probably some other countries as well. Why don't the morons go attack people who drive vehicles that often get mileage measured in gallons per mile first?
I don't often deal with tanks in the city. I do, however, routinely have to peer around some jack-ass in a gigantic Ford Expedition (spotlessly clean, with no passengers of course, having never seen anything but city streets in its lifetime) turning left on the opposite side of the intersection while I'm waiting to turn left going the other way. Why can't I go? Because I can't see around the fucking giant asshole to tell whether there's any goddamned traffic coming!!!
Invest in a periscope. You can get cars with FLIR and a HUD now, shouldn't be to much of a problume.

I say invest in a howitzer! There's nothing quite like the sound of a 120 mm shell ripping through a vehicle in your way like it were made of tinfoil (which most new vehicles do seem to be made of, oddly enough,)

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-01-16 11:14pm

say invest in a howitzer! There's nothing quite like the sound of a 120 mm shell ripping through a vehicle in your way like it were made of tinfoil (which most new vehicles do seem to be made of, oddly enough,)

I noticed that old cars tend to be more damage-resistant. What caused the big change?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-01-16 11:19pm

jaeger115 wrote:
say invest in a howitzer! There's nothing quite like the sound of a 120 mm shell ripping through a vehicle in your way like it were made of tinfoil (which most new vehicles do seem to be made of, oddly enough,)
I noticed that old cars tend to be more damage-resistant. What caused the big change?

Change in materials. Old cars are made from strong metals. There is so much aluminum and plastic and stuff in new cars.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-16 11:23pm

Actually, accountants happened. Old cars were over-engineered, with huge safety factors. New cars are built with the absolute minimum thickness and strength of materials required to barely meet safety standards.

You can thank the stock market, corporate strategy which is based on short-term profits, and people with the letters "MBA" on their resumes.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-01-16 11:36pm

Fuel economy standards happened, too, as for the cheapening quality of cars.

I have mixed feeling about SUVs. They're a symbol of consumer empowerment, sort of represent a giant middle finger to the eco-fascists, and of course there is always the simple fact that you want to have lots of metal surrounding you when a thousand or more pound guided missile plows into you, which SUVs do have.

On the other hand, you can't see around the damn things and 90% of the people who own SUVs are douches (real statistic!). It's particularly ridiculous in college towns. I remember walking by some douche who was standing by the huge SUV that he had just flipped over as it was being towed away because he thought it would be cute to take a left turn at an absolutely ridiculous speed, endangering himself and the lives of many others, and briefly believing in some sense of cosmic justice.

And Wong, as for your comment about my chosen profession (I'm an accounting major), it does depress me to know that you're probably right; accountants are approaching lawyers these days in being the cause of great amounts of human suffering. I just hope that I can hold onto my ethics.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-01-16 11:38pm

I say it's bullshit, like most 'anti' campaigns these days.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-01-16 11:39pm

Darth Wong wrote:You can thank the stock market, corporate strategy which is based on short-term profits, and people with the letters "MBA" on their resumes.

I take exception to that. I'm planning to get an MBA eventually and I like cars. Especially well made cars.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-01-17 12:30am

The other day I saw a five foot two woman climbing out of a monster pickup truck. What the hell are these people, these soft suburbanites, doing with these huge trucks? JMFC, why must people always be trend-zombies?

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-01-17 12:39am

You know, I never thought about buying an SUV until I saw that stupid website.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-17 01:12am

Darth Wong wrote: I don't often deal with tanks in the city. I do, however, routinely have to peer around some jack-ass in a gigantic Ford Expedition (spotlessly clean, with no passengers of course, having never seen anything but city streets in its lifetime) turning left on the opposite side of the intersection while I'm waiting to turn left going the other way. Why can't I go? Because I can't see around the fucking giant asshole to tell whether there's any goddamned traffic coming!!!

Of fuck don't get me started on that .... exact same problem- except it's not a Ford Expedition most of the time.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-17 01:13am

Dalton wrote:The other day I saw a five foot two woman climbing out of a monster pickup truck. What the hell are these people, these soft suburbanites, doing with these huge trucks? JMFC, why must people always be trend-zombies?

Maybe they like driving around in something that won't crumple in a crash,
and like having the massive cargo space to haul shit around in?

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-17 01:14am

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Invest in a periscope. You can get cars with FLIR and a HUD now, shouldn't be to much of a problume.

You haven't seen the Seinfeld episode on it?

"Because it's a stupid idea Kramer. No one's gonna go for it because it's stupid. STUPID!!!!" (future old Jerry to future old Kramer)

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2003-01-17 01:16am

Vympel wrote:http://www.detroitproject.com/

Thoughts?

Almost the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Well not really.....but it's up there.

However, I don't like the SSUV (Super class Sports Utility Vehicle) you know like the Ford Expedition, ect......I don't like them because I really can't see a need for all that metal to be wasted on a vehicle, and if your getting it for your kids then two things

1 - You shouldn't be having that many children

2 - Get a fucking VAN!

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-01-17 01:58am

I think the people of "the Detroit project" are hypocrites. From what I understand, alot of these Detroit people are really LA folk with hudge homes (with lots of AC that burns through power), and chaffur limo's (which also burn some gas from time to time).

Its elitism pure and simple, "Im a rich progressive liberal so I know what every one should do but I don't have to follow my own advice."

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-01-17 02:14am

MKSheppard wrote:
Dalton wrote:The other day I saw a five foot two woman climbing out of a monster pickup truck. What the hell are these people, these soft suburbanites, doing with these huge trucks? JMFC, why must people always be trend-zombies?
Maybe they like driving around in something that won't crumple in a crash, and like having the massive cargo space to haul shit around in?

And how many SUVs are used for that purpose, as opposed to a vehicle one person uses to travel to and from work? And what makes you think that SUVs are somehow going to be better protection in a crash? Aren't SUVs nothing more than a car chassis with a big outer shell?

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-01-17 02:30am

Dalton wrote:And what makes you think that SUVs are somehow going to be better protection in a crash? Aren't SUVs nothing more than a car chassis with a big outer shell?

It depends on the SUV. Light ones, like the Ford Explod--er, I mean Explorer, are built on a very light and worthless chassis. Larger ones, like the Suburban and Expedition, are built on heavier, more durable truck chassis.

Then there's the physics of it. Even if you're driving a mid-70s Suburban with the thick body and heavy chassis, it's not going to do you one bit of good if you collide head-on with a semi at a comparative speed of about 120 MPH.

SUVs, like ANY OTHER VEHICLE, require a functioning brain to drive. There is nothing I hate worse than some dumbass bitch trying to maneuver her Expedition or Escalade like it's a subcompact sports car.

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