Master of Orion III

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-01-17 06:51am

i thought Master of Orion III was supposed to be released last year? anyone know what the hull is up?

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2003-01-17 06:55am

No idea I am vaiting for it but the latest news puts the release in the middle of mars

Her's the word from quicksilver.

Master of Orion III is in final regression testing, and will be released very soon. Date to be announced shortly.

http://moo3.quicksilver.com/main2.html

This games shop is usually right about the release date.

http://www.tradition.se/kommande.asp

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2003-01-17 07:19am

Faram wrote:No idea I am vaiting for it but the latest news puts the release in the middle of mars

Great. Not only is it delayed, they're gonna release it on another planet.
Shipping charges are gonna be murder

*notices Faram approaching with a block of plastique*

No thanks, pal, I'm past my playdoo phase

*notices Faram placing a timer*
*notices Faram running away very quickly*

Hey, dude, you left your watch

BOOOOM

Note to self:never nitpick simians who can handle explosives
*crumbles to dust*

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-17 10:06am

Go here for a fantastic preview: http://apolyton.net/moo3/preview/part1_players.php

Just one thing: anyone want to guess the influence for the humans in MOO3?

It sure ain't Star Trek

*cues Imperial March*

Go to the screenshots section to see all the races.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-01-17 10:12am

It's been in final testing for about 2 months now. I;m getting really suspicious about the quality of this game.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-17 10:17am

Crazy_Vasey wrote:It's been in final testing for about 2 months now. I;m getting really suspicious about the quality of this game.

It HAS consistently slipped it's release date again and again and again and again. The last time they gave a date, it was December 4th 2002.

However, it is certain that it will be released this quarter- probably in February.

It doesn't bother me. I may be jonesing for my space conquest fix, and am disappointed at the constant delay, but if it's a good game then I'll buy it whenever it comes out. Delays don't mean the game's going to be shit. Just ask Blizzard.

On the other hand there is that trainwreck Daikatana but with a tosser-fuckwit like Romero in charge ...

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-01-17 10:21am

Quicksilver don;t exactly have the reputation or track record of Blizzard though. ABout the only one of Quicksilvers games I've even heard of before is Starfleet Command.

And you know this games was originally due out what the back end of 2001? They must have some serious problems to slip 18 months.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-17 10:29am

Crazy_Vasey wrote:Quicksilver don;t exactly have the reputation or track record of Blizzard though. ABout the only one of Quicksilvers games I've even heard of before is Starfleet Command.

Yeah, but at some point Blizzard didn't have the track record it currently has.

The previews of the game are quite promising- of course I will wait for reviews.

And you know this games was originally due out what the back end of 2001? They must have some serious problems to slip 18 months.

It was constant increments of slippage- a quarter here, a quarter there ... but it is a fucking HUGE game. This is no RTS or first-person shooter (Duke Nukem Forever anyone? That's true vapourware). The single-player game is actually ready and bug-free, but QS encountered some show-stopping multi-player bugs they want to fix. Not wise in my opinion- who plays multiplayer games of MOO, honestly? I lurk on their forums (not registered) and the anger is quite palpable- espeically since the December 4th incident. Unfortunately- most of the people who complain on the board will buy the game regardless. I know I will (provided it's not panned in reviews- which I sincerely doubt)- it's just my kind of game. I loved the previous MOOs.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-01-17 10:44am

Yeah, but at some point Blizzard didn't have the track record it currently has.

The previews of the game are quite promising- of course I will wait for reviews.

Yeah and I bet that back then they finished their games on time and didn't piss their publishers off. Mind you back then I guess it wasn't as bad to slip a bit because people didn't follow games quite as intensively, no internet.

Just about every game gets good previews. They hype you get in previews seems to be directly proportional to the clout of the publisher and Infogrammes has a LOT of clout. You don't get any material off IG and you're locked out of a lot of big name franchises.

It was constant increments of slippage- a quarter here, a quarter there ... but it is a fucking HUGE game. This is no RTS or first-person shooter (Duke Nukem Forever anyone? That's true vapourware). The single-player game is actually ready and bug-free, but QS encountered some show-stopping multi-player bugs they want to fix. Not wise in my opinion- who plays multiplayer games of MOO, honestly? I lurk on their forums (not registered) and the anger is quite palpable- espeically since the December 4th incident. Unfortunately- most of the people who complain on the board will buy the game regardless. I know I will (provided it's not panned in reviews- which I sincerely doubt)- it's just my kind of game. I loved the previous MOOs.

Personally I don't see how multiplayer could be so screwed up that it's taking months to get ready yet single player was finished months ago.

I'm just annoyed, I was really looking forward to playing this game over Christmas but there's still no sign of it now. Hopefully it'll be around for easter hols.

Ive got an account on the forums but I can't be bothered with forums where the ONLY thing that ever seems to get posted is when's the game coming out? and variations of that (generally a lot more aggressive

)

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-17 11:02am

Crazy_Vasey wrote:

Yeah and I bet that back then they finished their games on time and didn't piss their publishers off. Mind you back then I guess it wasn't as bad to slip a bit because people didn't follow games quite as intensively, no internet.

Good point.

Just about every game gets good previews. They hype you get in previews seems to be directly proportional to the clout of the publisher and Infogrammes has a LOT of clout. You don't get any material off IG and you're locked out of a lot of big name franchises.

It is my firm belief that Infogrames pays off some reviewers. Go to pc.ign.com and compare the review of the utterly fucking crap Civ 3 (yegods I hate it) to the superior Call to Power 2 (10 bucks in a bargain bin).

Personally I don't see how multiplayer could be so screwed up that it's taking months to get ready yet single player was finished months ago.

Don't know. It's a big game. I will be utterly fucking pissed if there's big glaring bugs though.

I'm just annoyed, I was really looking forward to playing this game over Christmas but there's still no sign of it now. Hopefully it'll be around for easter hols.

Ive got an account on the forums but I can't be bothered with forums where the ONLY thing that ever seems to get posted is when's the game coming out? and variations of that (generally a lot more aggressive )

It does seem to be all that's discussed.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-01-17 11:15am

It is my firm belief that Infogrames pays off some reviewers. Go to pc.ign.com and compare the review of the utterly fucking crap Civ 3 (yegods I hate it) to the superior Call to Power 2 (10 bucks in a bargain bin).

I wouldn't say Civ3 was that bad but it sure lacked that something that kept me going back to Civ2 years after its release.

It was slow as fuck as well. How the hell they made it run so slow I will never know because there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of difference between Civ2 and Civ3 except in the graphics department and Civ3 still ain't nothing to write home about there. The AI is a bit better I guess but not much.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-17 11:21am

Crazy_Vasey wrote:
It is my firm belief that Infogrames pays off some reviewers. Go to pc.ign.com and compare the review of the utterly fucking crap Civ 3 (yegods I hate it) to the superior Call to Power 2 (10 bucks in a bargain bin).
I wouldn't say Civ3 was that bad but it sure lacked that something that kept me going back to Civ2 years after its release.

It was slow as fuck as well. How the hell they made it run so slow I will never know because there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of difference between Civ2 and Civ3 except in the graphics department and Civ3 still ain't nothing to write home about there. The AI is a bit better I guess but not much.

The AI is supposed to be good- I really don't see it. It cheats- it knows the map, and every strategic resource (even those of tech it hasn't developed- i.e. it knows there's uranium in them thar hills in 3000 BC) from the start (despite the other AI cheat allegations- this is definitely unabashedly true). It consistently will go for the one square on the edge of my continent where I don't have a culture influence. Of course, their idiotic little city will be absorbed into mine. This will then throw the ludicrous corruption system into play ... etc etc etc

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-01-17 11:25am

Sigh...so Masters of Orion 3 moved till Feb....urgh

As for Civ 3...aside from most of Vympel's pretty much spot on choices(why are they building a city in the desert...oh wait oil....grrr

They have somehow on any level the ability to fuck like bunnies...seriously the amount of manpower at times does not match up with the time span.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-01-17 11:26am

I didn't know about that resources thing. Doesn't really surprise me though. It's hard to make an AI that can test a human without cheating and it doesn't seem to have gotten more than a cursory effort in Civ3.

Civ3 corruption was what really put me off the game. Bastard thing made it nearly unplayable for me. 32 cities then you're fucked because any expansion is pointless. I hated that.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-01-17 11:29am

Yeah and for some reason the Ai has no problems

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Seriously you can install everything to loewr it...but my god in some cities it just shreds it alive...sorry it just gets too annoying, when around the tenth city and it's starting and gets progressivly worse as you expand.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-17 11:32am

Civ3 corruption was what really put me off the game. Bastard thing made it nearly unplayable for me. 32 cities then you're fucked because any expansion is pointless. I hated that.

Yup it was what pushed me over the edge. It's amazing that they didn't catch how crap this was until a patch came out (too late for me- the game has put me off permanently, and it still has problems).

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-17 11:32am

Ghost Rider wrote:Sigh...so Masters of Orion 3 moved till Feb....urgh

Hopefully Feb. Bastards might move it to March

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-01-17 11:48am

Culture flipping after you conquer a city was fucking annoying as well. You'd have 20 units in a city and then bam random flip and your army is GONE.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-01-17 12:01pm

Vympel wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:Sigh...so Masters of Orion 3 moved till Feb....urgh
Hopefully Feb. Bastards might move it to March

hey man, as long as it's worth it i don't care. i just hope it is bigger. my only real complaint with MOO II as that the huge galaxy wasn't huge enough. well that and the black hole generator... im moo 1 you could literally kill thousands of ships with a black hole generator moo 2 kinda wussed that weapon out. in retrospect, there were some cheezy elements but it is an 8 year old game now. at the time it was fuckin' fantastic.

johnmarkley · Post by **johnmarkley** » 2003-01-17 03:29pm

Vympel, what was the December 4th incident?

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-01-17 04:25pm

The game was due out December 4th. Everyone from the fans to the retailers expected it on December 4th. It didn't come. The devs didn't tell anyone jack about it, they just stayed off the web completely and didn't update anything for about a week leaving everyone hanging.

This was about the millionth release date they blew and they'd been building it up for a while beforehand saying it was almost done, really close to being finished etc. Then they didn't even bother to leave a note saying it wasn't going to be ready and people got pissed off at being jerked around.

I believe amazon got quite messed up by it because their online system reported that the game was in stock and shipping. I actually think some people got a notice saying the game was on the way heh.

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2003-01-17 04:51pm

Vympel wrote:Go here for a fantastic preview: http://apolyton.net/moo3/preview/part1_players.php

Just one thing: anyone want to guess the influence for the humans in MOO3?

It sure ain't Star Trek

*cues Imperial March*

Go to the screenshots section to see all the races.

Kinda wished that they have kept the old races...a little of something to remind us of the good old days...

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-01-17 05:25pm

kheegan wrote:Kinda wished that they have kept the old races...a little of something to remind us of the good old days...

Well, they kept a few of the old races. Meklar, Psilon, Trilarian, Klackon, and Sakkra are all from MoO II. I'm just glad they got rid of the Darlok. Bloody spies always stealing my tech.

Vympel wrote:who plays multiplayer games of MOO, honestly?

My roommate and I, but I'll admit we're the only two I know.

johnmarkley · Post by **johnmarkley** » 2003-01-17 06:19pm

Crazy_Vasey wrote:The game was due out December 4th. Everyone from the fans to the retailers expected it on December 4th. It didn't come. The devs didn't tell anyone jack about it, they just stayed off the web completely and didn't update anything for about a week leaving everyone hanging.

This was about the millionth release date they blew and they'd been building it up for a while beforehand saying it was almost done, really close to being finished etc. Then they didn't even bother to leave a note saying it wasn't going to be ready and people got pissed off at being jerked around.

I believe amazon got quite messed up by it because their online system reported that the game was in stock and shipping. I actually think some people got a notice saying the game was on the way heh.

Heh... I remember being all excited when it was supposedly coming out in October or November, and Istopped tracking it after that disappointment. I visited the MoO3 message board once, the mood seemed to be getting kind of ugly...

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2003-01-18 01:55am

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You can order it form Chips and Bits online or get it form them directly.

Linky: http://www.malfador.com/