What if land raptors had survived to modern times?

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What if land raptors had survived to modern times?

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This is an offshoot of the pterosaur thread. Suppose land-based meat-eating dinosaurs survived to modern times? I can imagine packs of Deinochyouses attacking and destroying entire villages in the Dark Ages. That is, if they can be domesticated. :twisted:
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Sooner or later I think humans would have tamed them or wiped them all out like we did to so many species.
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Sooner or later I think humans would have tamed them or wiped them all out like we did to so many species.
True, but if some realized their value as terror tools, they may keep them around. Think T-rexes attacking small enemy settlements during the time before guns came out :twisted: :twisted:
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If those dinosaurs survived to modern times, I don't think humans (or most other mammals) would have evolved. They would have eaten them as soon as the mammals came out of hiding. However, it would be nice to have a pet Tyrannosaurus rex.
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Kintaro wrote:If those dinosaurs survived to modern times, I don't think humans (or most other mammals) would have evolved. They would have eaten them as soon as the mammals came out of hiding. However, it would be nice to have a pet Tyrannosaurus rex.
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Mammals only diversified once the niches left vacant by the dinosaurs.

And I really don't see Deinonychus being domesticated. At elast, not without destroying their basic Deinonychus-ness.

I want a pet Protoceratops. Or a compy.
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The two are mutually exclusive I believe. Though you might be able to have some survive on large island, but no suitable landmasses exists. Humans would have reached every one that’s big enough for it before they became islands.
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Ok. Say they were magically put onto madegascar, which now has Ideal conditions for them.
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*Imagines me petting my veloraptor minion, some one knocks on the door, the little minion leaps up, hissing and snarling at the door, I open the door* " oh look mormons" * this is the little predators cue to attack, he leaps on elder John ripping at his neck, and organs*
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Any raptor species dangerous to humans would no doubt have been exterminated long ago, going the way of saber-tooth cats if not more modern large felines. The smaller ones might still be kicking around if they lived in areas isolated enough to escape man's notice.

Anyone longing for a compy or mini-raptor, there is an option, y'know. Just get yourself a Malay, like this fine fellow! -- http://www.geocities.com/Malayclub/gskenc.htm
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Biddybot wrote: Anyone longing for a compy or mini-raptor, there is an option, y'know. Just get yourself a Malay, like this fine fellow! -- http://www.geocities.com/Malayclub/gskenc.htm
That's nice. Does it get me close to having a pet Proto? No.
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Think of it as a dino cousin. I do! :) By the way, fun/stupid thing to do: Encourage any still-young Asian game fowl to clobber you with his spurs and you'll get a fairly safe and sobering taste of what it must've been like to be attacked by even a teeny raptor.

For those of you excited by the ongoing discoveries of 'feathered' dinos, especially the maniraptor-like species, here's another link to a modern cousin that still sports the 'primitive' hair-like plumage that may resemble what those little feathered guys used to wear... http://www.cyborganic.com/People/feathe ... wGirl.html
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All the talk of Raptors as pets makes me want one now. :cry:
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Evolving from dinosaurs would have been cool.
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:*Imagines me petting my veloraptor minion, some one knocks on the door, the little minion leaps up, hissing and snarling at the door, I open the door* " oh look mormons" * this is the little predators cue to attack, he leaps on elder John ripping at his neck, and organs*
A Siberian Tiger can do that just fine. Its estimated that there are over 100 Lions and Tigers in private hands in NYC, so keeping one around can't be that hard.
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A pet protoceratops sounds cool, but I don't even like changing cat litter. Cleaning up after an animal the size of a Mazda Miata just doesn't sound fun on any level. Maybe a compy, though. Cooler than a parrot, more fun than an iguana.
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T-Rexes would be herded into parks or islands and people could hunt them, peronally I'd have one's head bolted to my wall.
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DPDarkPrimus, ref. evolving from dinosaurs, do you know about Russell's 'Dinosaurid'? This is a humanoid-like biped he theorized could have evolved from Stenonychosaurus (Troodon) in lieu of humans had the dinosaurs not gone extinct. The museum of nature in Ottawa, Canada, used to have a model of it on display...maybe still does. I'll try to post an image of it...
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