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Predictions on Imperial Poll #10

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Well, first off: The contestants.
Jango Fett, flying Slave-1
Luke Skywalker, flying an X-Wing fighter
Ben Sisko, flying a Runabout
Tom Paris, flying the Delta Flyer
John Sheridan, flying a StarFury
Starbuck, flying a Viper

Let's look at each of them.

Jango Fett: Nearly killed Obi-Wan near Geonosis (good, but still no dice; Obi-Wan has professed to not really like flying, anyway). Is a bad-ass bounty hunter and good pilot.

Luke Skywalker: Wasn't touched until his dad, a Sith Lord and crack fighter pilot, decided to have a look. Well, OK, he kind of cooked himself by not watching where he was flying, but whatever. He still has the dignification of being the only Jedi in the contest.

Ben Sisko: Come on, a friggin' RUNABOUT?! Next!

Tom Paris: Paris is a good pilot, and the Delta Flyer is a neat machine, but even the two put together can't match up to the heavyweights in the contest. He goes out in a blaze sometime after Sisko.

John Sheridan: Sorry, not much of a B5 fan, can't comment. He's probably somewhere between the ST and SW contestants.

Starbuck: Arguably one of the Galactica's best fighter pilots. Has repeatedly engaged Cylon fighters and survived (well, not as if that's saying much, since the Cylons are only a little more creative than the Borg). His hairstyle and uniform are as outdated as Luke Skywalker's. However, he has managed to score with the chicks aboard the Galactica...

The Verdict:
#1: Luke Skywalker. Can't go wrong with Force reflexes.
#2: Jango Fett. Speed, power, deadliness.
#3: Sheridan or Starbuck.
#5: Paris.
#6: Ben Sisko... obviously.
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Re: Predictions on Imperial Poll #10

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Note: a Starfury has no shields. Sheridan's dead.

My take on the fight was (and is) that everyone gets into a furball exept Jango, who does a flyby and drops a seismic charge. :twisted:
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Pcm979 wrote:Note: a Starfury has no shields. Sheridan's dead.
IIRC, a Colonial StarViper also is shieldless, although I believe that it has the same kind of Colonial superconducting armor used on the Galactica.
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Accually I don't think Luke can stand up to Boba and the Slave 1 in an X-Wing. The Jedi Starfighter seemed to be a lot more agile and definately a smaller target to hit piloted by a 10 year experienced Jedi Knight and still got beaten up. The X-Wing, while more powerful, isn't as agile and a easier target to hit for the Slave 1 and it's homing missiles and gattling blasters. Although it is piloted by a good force sensitive pilot, I don't think we've really seen any exelent dog fighting skills from Luke that would put him in an X-Wing over Boba and the Slave 1.
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See my edit.
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I think most people go for Skywalker in this situation. Jango may have some kickass firepower, but Skywalker has the Force. It would appear that those two are considered the heavyweights, and all of the other contenders are relegated to "cannon fodder" status.
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unfortunately the starfury has shitty weapons as well
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Well like the Starviper...both shieldless but more agile than some of their opponents.

As for Boba beating Skywalker...given that Vader was basically the only one taking him down...I'd say he's abit above Obi-Wan and has heavier weaponry than the AetherSprite.
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anarchistbunny wrote:Accually I don't think Luke can stand up to Boba and the Slave 1 in an X-Wing. The Jedi Starfighter seemed to be a lot more agile and definately a smaller target to hit piloted by a 10 year experienced Jedi Knight and still got beaten up. The X-Wing, while more powerful, isn't as agile and a easier target to hit for the Slave 1 and it's homing missiles and gattling blasters. Although it is piloted by a good force sensitive pilot, I don't think we've really seen any exelent dog fighting skills from Luke that would put him in an X-Wing over Boba and the Slave 1.
But for all intents and purposes, Obi-Wan is not nearly the natural pilot that Luke is.
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Yes, we must remember that Skywalker spent much of his youth honing his piloting skills on an Incom T-16, which has almost identical controls to the X-Wing. He loves to fly. Obi-Wan just tolerates it ... barely.
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Well, which Luke are we using? ANH Death Star battle, ESB after Hoth, RotJ time Luke, or a EU version?
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Only the X-wing and Slave 1 can really compete here. Luke's force abilities provide an considerable advantage, and in open space the X-wing almost certainly outperforms the Slave 1. While Obi Wan wasn't able to take down Slave 1, chances are his lasers couldn't do much damage to it anyway. I'd bet a couple proton torpedoes would be fatal though.

I'd say its however gets the first missile hit, and that’s more likely to be Luke.
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Don't forget, what are the sheild ratings on the Jedi Starfighter? How much punishment can it take compared to an X-Wing? I think Luke would edge this one out.

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Darth Wong wrote:Yes, we must remember that Skywalker spent much of his youth honing his piloting skills on an Incom T-16, which has almost identical controls to the X-Wing. He loves to fly. Obi-Wan just tolerates it ... barely.
How much does that really matter? A person could be really, really good at something, but not really like it. And another can really, really like it, and still suck. Take basketball for example.

In this case, Skywalker is a good pilot, so yes his love of flying does contribute. However, Obi-Wan could hate it, but still just be innately good at it. They could theoretically be just as good, or Obi-Wan could be better.
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And the winners are:
The Gold medal goes to Luke Skywalker and his legendary X-Wing.
The Force is alway usefull, the X-Wing is a dedicated fighter and Luke is a good pilot (blew up the DS).

The Silver medal goes Jango Fett with the mighty Slave 1.
Jango takes 2nd place with simple brute force.

The Bronze goes to Tom Paris flying the sleek Delta Flyer.
Paris is a better pilot then Sisko and the Delta Flyer is better craft then a runabout.

The 4th place goes to Benjamin Sisko roving around in a Runabout.
Shields, micro-torps and FTL gives Sisko an edge over the remaining contenders.

The 5th place goes to Starbuck and his trusty Colonial Viper.
Fast, manouverable and looks neat.

And the runt of the litter is John Sheridan, who dies sfitly in his Starfury.
Short operative range, no inertial dampers (can't accelerate very quickly), the bolters have crappy effective range (as seen in Thirdspace), no shields and no FTL. Simply put: Cannon fodder for the rest.
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Having looked at the results, I'm kind of amazed that Sheridan is actually beating Starbuck. I guess not that many people are familiar with BG, so chalk it up to voter ignorance :)
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I would have thought Sheridan here....if only because the other contenders were busy laughing their asses off at his ship too much to care about fighting
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<troll> This is no contest. Star Wars uses primitive lasers, which can't penetrate Federation shields. </troll>
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Coaan wrote:I would have thought Sheridan here....if only because the other contenders were busy laughing their asses off at his ship too much to care about fighting
Even if all the other contestants stood still and did nothing he'd would not be able to pierce the shields of the Slave 1 or X-Wing, perhaps not even the Runabouts or the Delta Flyers. In the end he just runs out of air or fuel and dies of suffocation.
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1st. LUKE SKYWALKER! His X-Wing is the fastest here. The 4 multi-kiloton lasers will be enough for the most of the combatents, and the 6 photon torpedoes can swat the Slave 1. Plus he has...DA FORCE!
2nd. JANGO FETT! Slave 1 kicks ass. Firepower second to none, and good speed and presumably shields.
3rd. TOM PARIS! The Delta Flyer is a good multi-role fighter. And instead of moronic buttons, it has CAPTAIN PROTON CONTROLS.
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4th. Ben Sisko. Runabout slower, weaker weapons and can be sent down with 800 megawatts. His piloting skills never impressed me.
5th. John Sheridan. The Starfury is limited to Human G limits for acceleration and maneuvering. It's weapons are unimpressive. And B5 had a 200 megawatt gun that was probably anti-fighter.
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