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You may NOT Declaw that cat

Posted: 2003-01-20 02:05am
by Joe
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20030117_1306.html

This people seriously need to mind their own business. :roll:

Posted: 2003-01-20 02:14am
by Frank Hipper
That sums up West Hollywood pretty well. Being a dog person, and being allergic to cats, doesn't mean I think de-clawing is a super thing to do, though. Just like bobbing a dog's tail or having their ears trimmed.

Posted: 2003-01-20 02:16am
by Captain tycho
Cruel, eh?
Isn't de-clawing suppose to be painless?

Posted: 2003-01-20 02:19am
by Joe
These people have no common sense; making the declawing of cats illegal would be disastrous for cat adoption.

Posted: 2003-01-20 02:29am
by Frank Hipper
Captain tycho wrote:Cruel, eh?
Isn't de-clawing suppose to be painless?
I'd hope it would be. But cats rely on their claws for mobility to a certain extant, it would be like having your big toe amputated, you'd still get around, but you'd miss it when you tried to run.

Posted: 2003-01-20 02:29am
by Brother-Captain Gaius
Generaly I'm against declawing, with a few exceptions *coughHemlockGreycoughcough*

Posted: 2003-01-20 02:31am
by Frank Hipper
Durran Korr wrote:These people have no common sense; making the declawing of cats illegal would be disastrous for cat adoption.
I didn't think of that.

Posted: 2003-01-20 02:35am
by Cal Wright
True, but those sons of bitches normally live a life of luxury. Not like they need to fuckers to survive.

Posted: 2003-01-20 02:37am
by Darth Wong
And besides, we wouldn't want HemlockGrey to get what's left of his nuts ripped off.

Posted: 2003-01-20 02:41am
by Hyperion
Being an owner of 7 cats, I see both sides.

I've seen what happens when a cat is declawed, it's not pretty, the sutures tend to dissolve (just how a cat's system is set up) and open, which means they bleed all over everything, it's very oviously VERY painful to them as well, they also loose their primary defense mechanism.

But, a cat is a destructive beast, they tend to put claws into EVERYTHING, even if they're trained.

None of my cats are declawed and I intend to keep them that way, even though "Rat Cat" is getting to a point where she may have to be declawed since she cannot retract them for some reason, so she sticks to everthing.

As for dealing with the cats spiking people and shredding furniture, a pair of fingernail clippers, and a few minutes each week per cat solves that, I've been doing that for years, no problems thus far and 100% effective.

Posted: 2003-01-20 07:59am
by Stormbringer
Frank Hipper wrote:
Captain tycho wrote:Cruel, eh?
Isn't de-clawing suppose to be painless?
I'd hope it would be. But cats rely on their claws for mobility to a certain extant, it would be like having your big toe amputated, you'd still get around, but you'd miss it when you tried to run.
Have you ever owned a cat? I do, at home we've got three cats all declawed. Trust me they get around just fine with out them. All you usually see of one of them is a tan blur. Assuming you get the declawed at an early age they don't have a problem adapting at all. Older cat cats have a harder time but will get used to it.

And if the vet does it properly they'll have sore feet for at most a week or so with the blood and horrible pain animal rights nuts describe.

Posted: 2003-01-20 08:11am
by Coaan
People and their superior god complexes again... :roll:


Just one of these days I would like to see these animals get their own back on the human race, speaking as a cat owner, I wouldn't put my cat through that if you paid me X amount of cash..and if scratching is a problem...here's some advice...Buy a scratching pole...it comes with built in cat nip so it does work to attract them and keep them away from furnature.

And if it scratches you....just don't piss it off!

Posted: 2003-01-20 09:18am
by Wicked Pilot
If I had a cat, I would never de-claw them. But I think the outlaw of such practices may not be a good idea. If it comes down to an owner having to decide between de-clawing, and sending their cat to the shelter, I'd think the de-clawing would be the better choice.

That makes me wonder, which would you guys choose; de-clawing, or animal shelter?

Posted: 2003-01-20 10:08am
by HemlockGrey
My cat is not and never will be declawed.

PAIN...

Posted: 2003-01-20 10:15am
by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi
I'm not suprised at this news, since California leads the country in nut production.

Anyway, if your cat is ripping up your furniture, you have the right to get htem declawed. If my caty was doing that, I would. I don't care if I wouldn't want it, since I don't go around scartching the furniture up with my blunt, fragile fingernails. The three cats I have were all declawed, and they're fine right now.

These animal rights wackos should get back to lobbying to change football team names.

Posted: 2003-01-20 10:21am
by Lagmonster
I usually default by not getting my cat declawed, because it CAN make them aggressive and cause males to spray more. That and there are perfectly practical methods of discouraging furniture destruction among cats.

However, I cannot imagine what prompts these people to call declawing an act of pointless multilation. I certainly hope none of those damned protesters and actors supporting this are circumcised or have had cosmetic surgery or anything.

Posted: 2003-01-20 10:31am
by ArmorPierce
I think that there should be a age limit to how old the cat can be to get declawed and once passed this age limit cannot get declawed.

Posted: 2003-01-20 12:42pm
by His Divine Shadow
Stormbringer wrote:And if the vet does it properly they'll have sore feet for at most a week or so with the blood and horrible pain animal rights nuts describe.
Don't you mean without? :?

Posted: 2003-01-20 01:18pm
by Dahak
That's just cruel and unneccesary.
If you own a cat, you have to fucking live with the fact that they use furniture for scratching.
One can buy a scratching post, or just plain live with the fact.

I have one cat, and 3 more at my mum's home, and no one would think of declawing them. They have ruined some furniture, but that's something to live with.

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Posted: 2003-01-20 02:38pm
by DPDarkPrimus
Durran Korr wrote:These people have no common sense; making the declawing of cats illegal would be disastrous for cat adoption.
Ah, but people in Hollywood don't adopt animals, they just advocate the adoption of animals.

When they want a cat, they call up a professional breeder in [insert European country here].

Posted: 2003-01-20 02:41pm
by Joe
DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:These people have no common sense; making the declawing of cats illegal would be disastrous for cat adoption.
Ah, but people in Hollywood don't adopt animals, they just advocate the adoption of animals.

When they want a cat, they call up a professional breeder in [insert European country here].
Of course, it doesn't matter to these sanctimonious fucktards that their stupid idea would probably mean euthanasia for hundreds of cats, because they get to feel good about themselves.

Posted: 2003-01-20 02:59pm
by Korvan
I have to say that I don't like the idea of declawing and if I had a cat I'd choose not to get it declawed. However, other people have different priorities than myself and they have the right ot make their own choices, even if I disagree with them.

Soon, however, genetics could give us "naturally" declawed cats, although if I had a genetically altered pet, it wouldn't be such a mundane alteration. Now a flying, fire breathing cat...

Posted: 2003-01-20 03:15pm
by Kamakazie Sith
Hyperion wrote:
None of my cats are declawed and I intend to keep them that way, even though "Rat Cat" is getting to a point where she may have to be declawed since she cannot retract them for some reason, so she sticks to everthing.
You don't have to declaw the cat, just trim her nails. I assume this cat is kept indoors? If so her nails are retracted it is just that they are so long that they are sticking out. That's why they scratch things, it keeps their claws worn down.

Posted: 2003-01-20 03:16pm
by RedImperator
Scratching posts aren't worth the carpet remnants they're made out of. Cats scratch furniture, and these self-righteous blowhards pissing and moaning about "mutilation" have obviously never had a $2000 living room set destroyed by a pair of $15 cats. Competently done, declawing leaves them sore for a week. As for their balance, one of mine weighs 18 pounds and can leap up on top of an entertainment center completely covered in greeting cards and picture frames and not knock a single thing over.

Domestic cats get food, water, shelter, medical care, protection from predators, and affection, and they live three times as long as feral cats. Losing their claws is a small price to pay for all this, IMHO.

(Note that this only applies to indoor cats. Outdoor cats need their claws for defense and taking the heads off small woodland creatures. I'd never get an outdoor cat declawed.)

Posted: 2003-01-20 03:20pm
by The Yosemite Bear
Feeding Time at Transcends?

Oh, btw how about the cute little kitties over here, please someone adopt these cute little Bobbies, and how about the furry little mounties.