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Which is superior? Both have their merits, which one wins?

Asphalt. The other two ruin suspensions.

Roman cement

Cobblestone's are at least marginally all weather. But I prefer a nice hardened concrete runway built by paranoid eastern bloc engineers for my F-108.

Sea Skimmer wrote:Cobblestone's are at least marginally all weather. But I prefer a nice hardened concrete runway built by paranoid eastern bloc engineers for my F-108.

A Rapier? Eh...I'd rather have a -104 or -110 myself. Just personal preference, I suppose, but they never showed the -108 would work.

The Dark wrote:

Sea Skimmer wrote:Cobblestone's are at least marginally all weather. But I prefer a nice hardened concrete runway built by paranoid eastern bloc engineers for my F-108.

A Rapier? Eh...I'd rather have a -104 or -110 myself. Just personal preference, I suppose, but they never showed the -108 would work.

The F-104!? Why the fuck would you want a fighter that had to return to base for fuel in less time then a Rapier would need for taxiing? The early Phantom aren't too bad, as long as your fighting Badger's or Bears.

Sea Skimmer wrote:

The Dark wrote:

Sea Skimmer wrote:Cobblestone's are at least marginally all weather. But I prefer a nice hardened concrete runway built by paranoid eastern bloc engineers for my F-108.

A Rapier? Eh...I'd rather have a -104 or -110 myself. Just personal preference, I suppose, but they never showed the -108 would work.

The F-104!? Why the fuck would you want a fighter that had to return to base for fuel in less time then a Rapier would need for taxiing? The early Phantom aren't too bad, as long as your fighting Badger's or Bears.

Range 1250nm for the -104C isn't too bad...-108 was only supposed to have an 1150nm range. Not quite as quick as the Rapier, but I'd prefer the Sidewinders and Vulcan over 4 20mm single-barrels and unguided rockets.

And the Spectre's a very nice aircraft. 16,000 pounds of munitions is a fairly good payload .

Of course, I prefer the really old ones for styling. Give me a Super Sabre or a Thunderjet, and I'm happy. I really need to finish the models of those I have (only need to finish painting/decaling the F-80G, have a P-40 half-built, and have a F-100 and F-14 still in the box).

edit: but we're getting way OT...if we're going to continue this,w e should start a new thread.

The F-104's long range was entirely theoretical; with an actual warlord it could fly only about 500 miles. The Rapier was meant to have three Falcons' as its main armament, not guns or rockets.

The Thud was a great aircraft. Golden BB's into the control systems be damned, one took a direct 85mm wing hit and returned to base.

This topic was dead anyway, I found it far down the page.

Sea Skimmer wrote:The F-104's long range was entirely theoretical; with an actual warlord it could fly only about 500 miles. The Rapier was meant to have three Falcons' as its main armament, not guns or rockets.

Huh...I was using http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research ... r/f108.htm for my information. Maybe they got this one wrong.

The Thud was a great aircraft. Golden BB's into the control systems be damned, one took a direct 85mm wing hit and returned to base.

Yeah, Thunderchief was good, but it should have been an A, not an F-type.

Stop hijacking the thread! Let's get back on topic about the much more fascinating cobblestone and dirt roads!

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Stop hijacking the thread! Let's get back on topic about the much more fascinating cobblestone and dirt roads!

I suppose we could discuss each ones resistance to Thud delivered 750-pound bombs.

Bah.

The Skyraider. Powerful as shit, and with one of the first Vietnam MiG kills. It also is reasonable for the last combat use of aerial torpedoes, when an 11 aircraft attacked a dam in North Korea, it was totally destroyed.

Unfortunately it used AVGAS, and the USN was very happy to get the last plane using that stuff off its CV decks.

Sea Skimmer wrote:

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Stop hijacking the thread! Let's get back on topic about the much more fascinating cobblestone and dirt roads!

I suppose we could discuss each ones resistance to Thud delivered 750-pound bombs.

...or car tires.

Sea Skimmer wrote: Unfortunately it used AVGAS, and the USN was very happy to get the last plane using that stuff off its CV decks.

Bah!

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:

Sea Skimmer wrote:

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Stop hijacking the thread! Let's get back on topic about the much more fascinating cobblestone and dirt roads!

I suppose we could discuss each ones resistance to Thud delivered 750-pound bombs.

...or car tires.

Tires being propelled away from trucks hit by Thud delivered 750 pound bombs....

Id take a Sandy!

Okay, back to the topic. Uh, Id rather have a dirt path assuming it is not muddy. It is much easier to use when you have to push a stroller, ride a bike, or some such thing. Cobblestones also present people in wheel chairs with problem unless the stones are flush with the ground.

MKSheppard wrote:

Sea Skimmer wrote: Unfortunately it used AVGAS, and the USN was very happy to get the last plane using that stuff off its CV decks.

Bah!

The last gunfighter turned attack and the Scooter beat out the Raider

A nice well made cobblestone path is a beautiful sight.....but then...there are a lot more of them here than in the states....

Sea Skimmer wrote:

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:

Sea Skimmer wrote: I suppose we could discuss each ones resistance to Thud delivered 750-pound bombs.

...or car tires.

Tires being propelled away from trucks hit by Thud delivered 750 pound bombs....

...or...tanks rolling on them. I give up.

I gotta get in on the act

Bah!

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:

Sea Skimmer wrote:

IRG CommandoJoe wrote: ...or car tires.

Tires being propelled away from trucks hit by Thud delivered 750 pound bombs....

...or...tanks rolling on them. I give up.

Tank being destroyed by Thud delivered 750 pound bombs, rockets and Bullpups.....