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I'm very pissed off.

I just forked out AU$30 for a new CD, one that I had been looking for for quite a while.

THen I bring it home only to find I can't play it. Why? Because I use a PC as a home entertainment system.

I can't play it in CD Player, Windows Media Player or Winamp. If I rip and mp3 I get massive distortion.

So, now I have two choices - return it and get a CD I DON'T want or buy a fucking CD player.

I reiterate. Fuck SONY.

Anyone who knows how to beat there heinous "copy protection" schemes aka fucking over people like ME, please tell me.

Have you tried the felt-tip marker trick?

edit: sorry, being stupid...that's where you take a felt-tip marker and draw a line around the inner edge (IIRC) of the cd. Removes the copy protection. Or did, last I heard.

[1] Try the marker trick as suggested, though I have no idea what system Sony uses.
[2] Be like me and don't buy music.

Sea Skimmer wrote:[1] Try the marker trick as suggested, though I have no idea what system Sony uses.
[2] Be like me and don't buy music.

I might try the marker trick once someone gives me specific details.

And the CD is rather obscure and rare, I couldn't find ANY of the bands stuff on the web or P2P networks.

What band/abum is it?

weemadando wrote:

Sea Skimmer wrote:[1] Try the marker trick as suggested, though I have no idea what system Sony uses.
[2] Be like me and don't buy music.

I might try the marker trick once someone gives me specific details.

And the CD is rather obscure and rare, I couldn't find ANY of the bands stuff on the web or P2P networks.

I might tell you once you stop triple posting......

Take a felt tipped marker and run it around the edge of the CD on the music side. This should take care of the copy protection.

Darth Fanboy wrote:What band/abum is it?

1200 Techniques - Choose One.

An Aussie techno/hip-hop/dance/"reggae" band.

And I managed to get it working. To anyone else having similar issues, play it through Cyberlinks wonderful product "Power DVD", the best DVD player and now the best CD player on the market.

http://www.1200techniques.net/

Has a lot of their songs and music videos online. Via the evils of realplayer.

The "Karma" video is well worth checking out. Flatly the coolest puppets ever in a music video.

That's happening more and more foten nowadays - The Osbournes soundtrack, the recent Aerosmith best of.

It's bloody stupid, because you can stiil get these songs as illegal MP3s from the internet, so they're actually encouraging those of us who have everything on their PC to steal...

The Dark wrote:Have you tried the felt-tip marker trick?

edit: sorry, being stupid...that's where you take a felt-tip marker and draw a line around the inner edge (IIRC) of the cd. Removes the copy protection. Or did, last I heard.

But that violates the DMCA!!!


Oh and later Spanky will go and call you a socialist pirate for doing so.

EDIT: Spanky opposes copy protection because of reduction in quality. NM

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.02/dirge.html

The above article raises some interesting points which mean that Sony (and other big publishers) may abandon copy-protection because the money they make from music is small compared to the amount that they can make from selling stuff to record and play it.

Sonys copy-protection could backfire on them and decrease sales of the new PCs they are selling (with the in built MD recorder), their MD players, their Clie PDAs and lots of other kit. By selling music cheaply over the net they would sell more music (albeit at a reduced unit cost) and more equipment so we can listen to it on MP3 players/MD players.

Pu-239 wrote:

The Dark wrote:Have you tried the felt-tip marker trick?

edit: sorry, being stupid...that's where you take a felt-tip marker and draw a line around the inner edge (IIRC) of the cd. Removes the copy protection. Or did, last I heard.

But that violates the DMCA!!!


Oh and later Spanky will go and call you a socialist pirate for doing so.

EDIT: Spanky opposes copy protection because of reduction in quality. NM

Actually, there are two things he can do:

1: He can(I think. Talk to a lawyer on this) sue whoever made the CD, because it violates the basic CD standard, becuase it should play on anyting that uses that standard.
2: He can legally download the entire Album over the P2P network of his choice, becuase he bought the dman CD, and he has fair use (at least in America)

Several other options are to use your computer's digital or analog line inputs and simply record it.

The felt-tip marker is another method.

You can find a download of it, in one of the lossless formats (FLAC, Shorten, Monkey's Audio, WAVPACK, etc.) or whatnow. MP3 works too, but doesn't sound as good.

Hey may be able to instigate a lawsuit, but I doubt that it'd be worth the efford. I suppose you could argue that the "CD Audio" label refers to the Red Book standard, which this particular CD violates, but is there any clear-cut cause of (significant) monetary loss?

You can also try to return it and demand your money back as the CD is falsely advertising that it conforms to the Red Book standard.

Soulman wrote:http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.02/dirge.html

The above article raises some interesting points which mean that Sony (and other big publishers) may abandon copy-protection because the money they make from music is small compared to the amount that they can make from selling stuff to record and play it.

Sonys copy-protection could backfire on them and decrease sales of the new PCs they are selling (with the in built MD recorder), their MD players, their Clie PDAs and lots of other kit. By selling music cheaply over the net they would sell more music (albeit at a reduced unit cost) and more equipment so we can listen to it on MP3 players/MD players.

That story warmed my cold, capitalist heart. There was a story in the Wall Street Journal last week that talked about how the entire mainstream entertainment industry is losing customers thanks to years of turning out product intended for the lowest of the lowest common denominator. My faith in the free market's merciless tendency to punish the stupid is reaffirmed.

phongn wrote:
Hey may be able to instigate a lawsuit, but I doubt that it'd be worth the efford. I suppose you could argue that the "CD Audio" label refers to the Red Book standard, which this particular CD violates, but is there any clear-cut cause of (significant) monetary loss?

Actually the ACCC has already given Sony the beatdown over the copy protection system as it violates the laws regarding sale of CDs.

I must have gotten one of the ones in the last batch of them they made.