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Darth Jehovah wrote: Will it happen in our lifetime?

Yeah, just as soon as giant pigs fly out of my ass.

God, i hope so... Humanity can ward off the evil God of the Bible, driving back the Armies of Christ into oblivion.
A new age of moral, atheist humans, united under Sol, can reach for the stars... Without religious barriers.

SolidSnake wrote:God, i hope so... Humanity can ward off the evil God of the Bible, driving back the Armies of Christ into oblivion.
A new age of moral, atheist humans, united under Sol, can reach for the stars... Without religious barriers.

Aw, it's nice to here the voice of tolerance and understanding.

SolidSnake wrote:
God, i hope so... Humanity can ward off the evil God of the Bible, driving back the Armies of Christ into oblivion.
A new age of moral, atheist humans, united under Sol, can reach for the stars... Without religious barriers.

New VS. Imperial Military vs Armies of god

The forces of cheese lies in wait incase he does...

Crossover_Maniac wrote: Aw, it's nice to here the voice of tolerance and understanding.

Yes! We must tolerate the masses who all share an imaginary friend!

VF5SS wrote:

Crossover_Maniac wrote: Aw, it's nice to here the voice of tolerance and understanding.

Yes! We must tolerate the masses who all share an imaginary friend!

What it's to you anyway. So long they don't bother you.

Its nice to know that i can inspire.... I love you all... <sob>

Crossover_Maniac wrote:

VF5SS wrote:

Crossover_Maniac wrote: Aw, it's nice to here the voice of tolerance and understanding.

Yes! We must tolerate the masses who all share an imaginary friend!

What it's to you anyway. So long they don't bother you.

Tends to get pretty tedious after awhile when people are supposed to outgrow fairy tales.

VF5SS wrote:

Crossover_Maniac wrote:

VF5SS wrote: Yes! We must tolerate the masses who all share an imaginary friend!

What it's to you anyway. So long they don't bother you.

Tends to get pretty tedious after awhile when people are supposed to outgrow fairy tales.

And what makes you different from the intolerant Bible-thumpers out there who wants to ram their beliefs down your throat just like you want to ram atheism down theirs?

The fact that I don't ram atheism down anyone's throat You have taken my opinion as something I actually do.

Mr. B wrote:

Darth Jehovah wrote: Will it happen in our lifetime?

Yeah, just as soon as giant pigs fly out of my ass.

Hey, Pigs can fly, I've got photographic proof..

VF5SS wrote:The fact that I don't ram atheism down anyone's throat You have taken my opinion as something I actually do.

Your sarcastic repost "Yes! We must tolerate the masses who all share an imaginary friend!" and your reply "Tends to get pretty tedious after awhile when people are supposed to outgrow fairy tales" to my earlier statement "What it's to you anyway. So long they don't bother you" leaves me with that impression.

I don't recall any incidents of atheists ramming their beliefs down others' throats. I'm sure it's happened, but not on such a large scale as Christianity. Atheists like to point out that Christianity is illogical, nonsensical, depressing and dangerous, but they never tell everyone to convert to atheism.

Anyway, no the Second Coming will never happen. It's all a giant fairy tale. Just look at the way it's written. John gives these fiery depictions of Judgment Day, full of vengeance, terror and sinners' suffering. In other words, it was written to cater to the desires of ordinary people. People like believing that those who have done them wrong or harm will suffer for all eternity on Judgment Day, and John was smart enough to realize that. So, he had a "revelation" and wrote it down. People bought it, thus we have Christianity.

Also, Jesus told the Apostles that he'd return in their lifetime, if I remember correctly. That didn't happen. Now, people say that it could happen any time, any place. Of course, Christians will always fall back on this every time a Judgment Day passes us up. It'll be interesting to see if Christianity is still kicking in a thousand years, or if people will finally say, "That's it, I guess he's not coming. Let's stop feeling guilty for no reason."

God, i hope so... Humanity can ward off the evil God of the Bible, driving back the Armies of Christ into oblivion.
A new age of moral, atheist humans, united under Sol, can reach for the stars... Without religious barriers.

Ever seen the original Star Trek episode where Kirk et al encounter Apollo? According to Trek, the Greek gods were superbeings that lived on Earth for a while and ruled over them. Eventually, they left. Apollo stayed behind on some planet. When he encounters the away team, he wants them to come be with him. He says that he would "love them." But, when they do not acquiesce to his wishes, he tries to kill them all. When the Enterprise's phasers defeat him, he laments that he would have loved them all if only they'd chosen to be with him.

Kirk then tells him that he asks for something that they cannot give, and that humanity has outgrown him and his ilk. In other words, Apollo would have loved the crew, but only if they did what he said, which isn't really love. It's just simple reward and punishment-based morality, like what children are taught. Primitive people were uneducated and needed an incentive to not act badly, so gods were invented for the purpose of maintaining order. Apollo, even though he bears the name of a Greek god, represents the Christian god, who is an abusive father and a sociopath with severe psychological disorders. He'll treat you well if you do what he says, but he'll make damn sure you get what's coming to you if you don't. However, modern Hell-believing Christians have taken it a step further, saying that God will still love you while he sits by and lets you suffer for all eternity, or that God doesn't condemn people to Hell; people do, even though that mentality defies his very position as a judge.

Wow, does anyone miss the original Star Trek writers?

Durandal wrote:I don't recall any incidents of atheists ramming their beliefs down others' throats. I'm sure it's happened, but not on such a large scale as Christianity. Atheists like to point out that Christianity is illogical, nonsensical, depressing and dangerous, but they never tell everyone to convert to atheism.

That's like saying Christians doesn't try to convert atheists, they just point out it's illogical nonsensical, depressing, and dangerous.

And if Christianity (or any religion) is dangerous, doesn't that obligate atheists to use every means necessary to stamp religion out of existance, even by the use of force and amending the Constitution to end freedom of religion?

I wouldn't be surprised if he came in my lifetime.

Christians have been saying that for two thousand years and counting. LOL.

...I meant, do you think they'll make a porno with that title during our lifetime?

That's like saying Christians doesn't try to convert atheists, they just point out it's illogical nonsensical, depressing, and dangerous.

But that's not the truth. Lots of Christians actively try and "spread the Word." Atheists simply point out how they see the Christian belief system. They don't say, "Therefore, you must convert to atheism." We simply want everyone to be nice to one another.

And if Christianity (or any religion) is dangerous, doesn't that obligate atheists to use every means necessary to stamp religion out of existance, even by the use of force and amending the Constitution to end freedom of religion?

If you think about it with typical fundamentalist Christian mentalities, yes. Christianity is dangerous because of its beliefs, but that doesn't doom every Christian to walk the road of the Crusaders or Inquisitors, who demonstrate precisely what is so wrong with the belief system.

However, atheists aren't Christians.

Christ will rise again as soon as God exists. I'm not holding my breath.

I can see it now.

The Second Cumming of Christ. Starring Ron Jeremy as Jesus.

Durandal wrote:But that's not the truth. Lots of Christians actively try and "spread the Word." Atheists simply point out how they see the Christian belief system. They don't say, "Therefore, you must convert to atheism." We simply want everyone to be nice to one another.

Wow. Considering all the deep hatred I've seen on this board from atheists towards Christians, I'm going to take that final sentence with a couple truckloads of salt. I'm assuming there's an understood "unless they're fundy Christians, in which case they can all *&#! off and die!" at the end, right? The whole "tolerance" thing, as Crossover_Maniac has pointed out, doesn't appear to apply to attitudes towards Christianity.

Durandal wrote:If you think about it with typical fundamentalist Christian mentalities, yes. Christianity is dangerous because of its beliefs, but that doesn't doom every Christian to walk the road of the Crusaders or Inquisitors, who demonstrate precisely what is so wrong with the belief system.

Allllll righty. First of all, you do realize that one of Christ's teachings (and Christians follow Christ's teachings, after all) is to "go forth and make disciples of all nations," right? I fully admit that some people are a bit...agressive in their evangelizing. Sometimes they forget Matthew 7:6:

"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If
you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and
tear you to pieces."

In other words, there's no sense preaching to a bunch of closed-mided atheists because they aren't ready to welcome the Holy Spirit into their hearts. Doesn't mean a good Christian shouldn't try, it just means that their time would be better spent on someone who is more open-minded.

Also, you, as a non-believer with no interest in hearing the Word of God could help your cause a lot by not being quite so combative. Instead of launching into an angry diatribe every time a Christian asks if you know Jesus, just shake your head and walk on by, or tell them politely, "I'm sorry, but I have no desire to learn about your beliefs." A combative response is going to set off alarms in the mind of a "fundamentalist" and cause him/her to think, "Boy, that guy really really needs to hear about Jesus!"

If you're getting unwanted attention from someone, just ignore them. Eventually they'll go away. It holds true for the most fundamentalist evangelical Christian out there, too.

Durandal wrote:However, atheists aren't Christians.

Whew. Thanks for clearing that up. Was wondering about that.

Now, I'm going to requote a little here:

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And if Christianity (or any religion) is dangerous, doesn't that obligate atheists to use every means necessary to stamp religion out of existance, even by the use of force and amending the Constitution to end freedom of religion?
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If you think about it with typical fundamentalist Christian mentalities, yes.

Okayyyyyyy. Now, if that someone's only "crime" is to hold a "fundamentalist" view of Christianity, and that practice in no way, shape or form threatens your individual life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness, then you are out of luck.

The Constitution gives a person the right to be an "annoying" Chrstian. There is no right for you to not be annoyed. There is no right for you to not be offended. There is no right for you to never have to hear about a belief that you do not, nor desire to, hold. Freedom of religion is one of the most precious freedoms we have in the United States of America. The main reason I serve my country and wear the uniform of our Armed Forces is to defend that right. I wear it to equally defend your right to believe or not believe as you see fit.

Seek to change that and you will have to go through me. And I will defend that right to my last dying breath.

You want to live in a society where you'll never have to hear about Christianity? Move to Saudi Arabia. Trying to convert anybody to Christianity is punishable by death. Of course, you'll have to convert to Islam, but, hey, at least you won't have to worry about any Christian fundamentalists annoying your sensibilities now, will you?

GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:Christians have been saying that for two thousand years and counting. LOL.

yeah. . .they have. but that's prolly because the book says that no one knows the exact date. . . so optimists (or pessimists. . )that we are, we think it will happen in our lifetime.