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I felt like starting this so here goes.
Tool, Primus, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, The Beatles, Jimmi Hendrix, and Radiohead.

Laurel Aitken
The Skatalites

The Business
Oxymoron
Die Kassierer

Blind Guardian, Therion, Rhapsody, Nightwish, 7.1, Lightforce, Dido, Manowar, Apocalyptica, and assorted others.

Things which will NEVER be found in my playlists:

(c)rap (makes me want to kill things)
New country (This stuff's shit, if I want to hear someone complaining about their F.O.R.D. and their wife, I'll watch springer)
Opera (sounds like shit, can't understand it, hurts my ears)
Jazz/blues (drives me insane and makes me want to kill things)
Hip-hop/varients thereof (see (c)rap)
A good deal of rock and metal (if it sounds like shit, i.e. hendrix, nirvana, etc.)
Indie (drum circle with another name. 'nuff said)
Drum 'n bass (drum circle with (c)rap influence. 'nuff said)
Bad techno (American crap)
Classical (puts me to sleep and shuts off my brain)

And anything with less than 180bpm base-line when I'm in the car, and we wonder why I average 10-25 over limit... lol... "More power to the engines!"

Favorites include but not limited to the following (and in no particular order):

Yes
The Cars
Metallica (Black album and prior)
Dire Straits
Lynard Skynard
ZZ Top
The Doors
CCR
Jimi Hendrix
Little Feat
Jimmy Buffet
Motorhead
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Jethro Tull
Def Leppard (Pyromania & prior)

No particular order:
Metallica
System of a Down
Rob Zombie
Rammstein
Maybe Papa Roach

Yes, my list is all that new trash teens listen to now days

I've always been a fan of a somewhat unknown British group called XTC - they never got the fame they deserved (and still deserve seeing as how they still produce new albums). Lately, I've been listening to Cuban jazz after being inspired by Radio Espantoso in GTA:VC. It's not a band, but in the car I listen to Free Talk Live, a local program that allows anyone to call in and talk about anything.

I have pretty diverse tastes, otherwise - some older rap, some pop, some punk, some classical, some rock, some metal. No country (except The Devil Went Down to Georgia) and no rap after Vanilla Ice left the scene.

And yes, I occasionally listen to Vanilla Ice. I have no illusions about his musicial quality or artistic integrity, but I listen for the sweet sound of irony and of course, the ninja rap.

Hyperion wrote:Things which will NEVER be found in my playlists:

Jazz/blues (drives me insane and makes me want to kill things)

Umm, wtf kind of jazz do you listen to?

Classical (puts me to sleep and shuts off my brain)

Riiiiiiiiiight.

Zaia wrote:

Hyperion wrote:Things which will NEVER be found in my playlists:

Jazz/blues (drives me insane and makes me want to kill things)

Umm, wtf kind of jazz do you listen to?

Classical (puts me to sleep and shuts off my brain)

Riiiiiiiiiight.

Too bad: I like jazz, blues and classical. However, any form of rap is as about entertaining to me as shaving my head with a cheeze grater while chewing on tin foil would be.

jegs2 wrote:Too bad: I like jazz, blues and classical.

As do I. I just spent the weekend helping out with the All-State Jazz group--damn they were good! Played some awesome shit, none of which drove me insane nor made me want to kill things.

However, any form of rap is as about entertaining to me as shaving my head with a cheeze grater while chewing on tin foil would be.

*chuckle* Oww...

Zaia wrote:

Hyperion wrote:Things which will NEVER be found in my playlists:

Jazz/blues (drives me insane and makes me want to kill things)

Umm, wtf kind of jazz do you listen to?

Classical (puts me to sleep and shuts off my brain)

Riiiiiiiiiight.

To start with, a 2nd grader is gonna hate that junk right away anyway, FORCE said second grader to listen to it for 2 years and he's gonna loathe it for life. (this is also how I learned to rather enjoy metal, the older kids at that school (7th and 8th grade+, I think driving age actually, but my memory's bad) used to play metallica and such during the lunch break, and I was always more than happy to escape the hellish screeching and honking noise from the speakers in the school and go listen to their car stereos for an hour or so.) The same sort of thing happened with the demonic and evil "old mcdonald had a farm" song, 3 year old nephew, I was 5, and for a week straight the little fuckwad wouldn't stop singing that damned song, needless to say that even 14 years later I still have anger control issues when I hear it, and have even decked people who were needling me with it.

As for classical, it's too slow, I've had my reactions and stuff checked, I'm far faster on the reactions than about 90% of the people in the world, which basically means my mind runs faster than it should, by a hell of a lot actually, and that also means that what's acceptably slow and calming to someone else is complete torture for me since I'm literally waiting for the song to keep going, it's too slow for me to keep track of. My idea of "relaxing music" is medium volume (bad hearing) 60-110BPM techno or other styles of music, it has to be fast enough to keep my attention to some extent and not overtax my mind trying to figure out what's going on with it, but yet slow enough not to get the adrenaline running.

jegs2 wrote:

Zaia wrote:

Hyperion wrote:Things which will NEVER be found in my playlists:

Jazz/blues (drives me insane and makes me want to kill things)

Umm, wtf kind of jazz do you listen to?

Classical (puts me to sleep and shuts off my brain)

Riiiiiiiiiight.

Too bad: I like jazz, blues and classical. However, any form of rap is as about entertaining to me as shaving my head with a cheeze grater while chewing on tin foil would be.

I beleive I covered my reason for disliking those styles of music, but I do agree with you on the (c)rap part, that is a damn good analogy, though I've often thought that having teeth drilled without anesthetic was also an apt analogy... (c)rap is just some idiots banging on drums, cussing, and talking about killing cops.

Hyperion wrote:As for classical, it's too slow, I've had my reactions and stuff checked, I'm far faster on the reactions than about 90% of the people in the world, which basically means my mind runs faster than it should, by a hell of a lot actually, and that also means that what's acceptably slow and calming to someone else is complete torture for me since I'm literally waiting for the song to keep going, it's too slow for me to keep track of. My idea of "relaxing music" is medium volume (bad hearing) 60-110BPM techno or other styles of music, it has to be fast enough to keep my attention to some extent and not overtax my mind trying to figure out what's going on with it, but yet slow enough not to get the adrenaline running.

I'd recommend Bach's Brandenberg Concertos -- they should be busy enough for you (although that is actually classified as Barouque rather than Classical music)

Sr.mal wrote:I felt like starting this so here goes.
Tool, Primus, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, The Beatles, Jimmi Hendrix, and Radiohead.

In no particular order:

Jethro Tull
311
Peter Frampton
The Rolling Stones
Tori Amos
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Jimi Hendrix
Bob Seger
Vanessa Carlton

Well, actually, I lied. It's in order of most recently listened to.

Right now 3 Doors Down is rocking my stereo. Their new CD is fucking awesome.

Nickleback (they're working on thier next cd right now. woot!)
Saliva
Puddle of Mudd
Default
I have lots but these guys are killer as of right now.

Hyperion wrote:To start with, a 2nd grader is gonna hate that junk right away anyway,

Are you in second grade? Is that why you're addressing that age level?

Jazz is so unbelievably complicated that you could take an album (let's take Miles Davis, "Kind of Blue") and listen to it every day for the rest of your life and at the age of 100, you could still find something new to hear in that music. That's how complex it is. If a second grader hates it, it's because it's way over his/her head.

FORCE said second grader to listen to it for 2 years and he's gonna loathe it for life. (this is also how I learned to rather enjoy metal, the older kids at that school (7th and 8th grade+, I think driving age actually, but my memory's bad) used to play metallica and such during the lunch break, and I was always more than happy to escape the hellish screeching and honking noise from the speakers in the school and go listen to their car stereos for an hour or so.)

FORCE? Clarify, please?

I don't know what kind of school you went to where they'd play 'hellish screeching and honking noise from the speakers' all day long, but somehow I doubt it was true jazz. I myself love Metallica, but I also love Miles Davis. Of course, I love them both because I don't need older people to tell me what to like and what not to. Is there a reason you'd have to choose between the two?

The same sort of thing happened with the demonic and evil "old mcdonald had a farm" song, 3 year old nephew, I was 5, and for a week straight the little fuckwad wouldn't stop singing that damned song, needless to say that even 14 years later I still have anger control issues when I hear it, and have even decked people who were needling me with it.

Ok, I think that clears up a myriad of things right there. Old MacDonald? We're discussing JAZZ and BLUES. Miles Davis? John Coltrane? Ella Fitzgerald? Sarah Vaughn? Benny Goodman? Not Old MacDonald...

As for classical, it's too slow,

You really think an entire genre of music that stretches back hundreds upon hundreds of years is all SLOW?! Please. Your ignorance is showing. Don't speak of things which you clearly don't know anything about, ok? For every slow classical piece of music you could bring up, I could list two that were faster than your brain could follow.

I've had my reactions and stuff checked, I'm far faster on the reactions than about 90% of the people in the world, which basically means my mind runs faster than it should, by a hell of a lot actually,

How nice for you. Then why aren't you stimulated by the complexity of jazz music? That's for highly intelligent people, such as yourself. As is classical music; many nuances in both the slow and fast pieces require great mental ability to follow. Why is it that they put you to sleep instead?

and that also means that what's acceptably slow and calming to someone else is complete torture for me since I'm literally waiting for the song to keep going, it's too slow for me to keep track of.

Riiiight. Ok. You need to get past the 2 classical pieces you apparently know and broaden your horizons before you talk like this.

My idea of "relaxing music" is medium volume (bad hearing) 60-110BPM techno or other styles of music, it has to be fast enough to keep my attention to some extent and not overtax my mind trying to figure out what's going on with it, but yet slow enough not to get the adrenaline running.

Not overtax? But I thought you brain ran so much faster than everyone else's? Why waste that?

Right now the CD's I'm listening to are

Thelonious Monk's Greatest Hits
Lavern Butler: A Foolish Thing To Do
Rent: The Soundtrack
Railroad Earth: Bird in a House
Very Best of John Coltrane
Aerosmith: Big Ones
AC/DC

Hyperion, the average human's reaction times are like .2 seconds...
Heh, you're .02 seconds faster than all of us!

Rob Zombie
Rammstein

Don't listen to music much

JediNeophyte wrote:Rob Zombie
Rammstein

Don't listen to music much

Somebody with similar tastes
How old are you?

Exonerate wrote:

JediNeophyte wrote:Rob Zombie
Rammstein

Don't listen to music much

Somebody with similar tastes
How old are you?

16

In no particular order :
Henry Rollins/Rollins Band
Pink Floyd
Led Zepplin
Black Sabbath
Juno Reactor
The Doors
Janis Joplin
Buddy Holly
Jerry Lee Lewis
The Andrews Sisters
Glenn Miller
Paul van Dyke
Queensryche
Future Sound of London
Motley Crue
Judas Priest(Only stuff with Rob Halford on vocals)
The Crystal Method
Def Leppard
Lords of Acid
White Zombie/anything with Rob Zombie
KMFDM
Iron Maiden
MDFMK
Helmet
Front Line Assembly
Chemlab
Anything by Brahms, Beethoven, Motzart, or Handel
These are all artist that everyone should give a shot
I have VERY diverse musical tastes......

i like some good ol' fashion rock music

ac/dc
midnight oil
metallica
billy idol
bon jovi
jimmy barnes

these are some of the best although i listen to almost any type of music

Zaia wrote:

Are you in second grade? Is that why you're addressing that age level?[/quote]

No, I was NOT addressing that age level, I was simply giving the reason I rather strongly dislike jazz.

Jazz is so unbelievably complicated that you could take an album (let's take Miles Davis, "Kind of Blue") and listen to it every day for the rest of your life and at the age of 100, you could still find something new to hear in that music. That's how complex it is. If a second grader hates it, it's because it's way over his/her head.

Complex? Someone honking away on a sax with trombones and a cello in the background is NOT complex. (to me at least, though I do know that to play such instruments takes tremendous skill)

FORCE? Clarify, please?

Teacher had the radio on at all times, you would get detention if you touched it (heaven forbid you change the station), and if you asked him to change it cause it was driving you nuts he'd just put in a tape of jazz or blues, all that did was make the sound quality a wee bit better.

know what kind of school you went to where they'd play 'hellish screeching and honking noise from the speakers' all day long, but somehow I doubt it was true jazz. I myself love Metallica, but I also love Miles Davis. Of course, I love them both because I don't need older people to tell me what to like and what not to. Is there a reason you'd have to choose between the two?

Well that stuff I had to endure for 2 years sure sounds awfully similar to the junk my dad listens to in his hobby room, and that's considered "good" jazz... Needless to say this is one of the key reasons why no matter how hard he tries to get me to join in with his hobby (which is rather interesting, O-scale model trains) I won't. (that, politics, and religion, and the periodic bashing fest based on sexuality). Yeah there's a reason I'd have to choose between Metallica and jazz, Metallica is actually pleasant to listen to.

Ok, I think that clears up a myriad of things right there. Old MacDonald? We're discussing JAZZ and BLUES. Miles Davis? John Coltrane? Ella Fitzgerald? Sarah Vaughn? Benny Goodman? Not Old MacDonald...

It is meant to be a representation as to how I respond to having sounds shoved down my throat and not being able to do a damn thing about the source. Remember that things that happen early in life can affect you for your whole life, and your responces to certain stimulus when you're young are a good way to predict your responces to the same/similar stimuli when you're older.

You really think an entire genre of music that stretches back hundreds upon hundreds of years is all SLOW?! Please. Your ignorance is showing. Don't speak of things which you clearly don't know anything about, ok? For every slow classical piece of music you could bring up, I could list two that were faster than your brain could follow.

Some Beethoven is actually decent, when set to techno/rave music. Otherwise even if it's fast and complex, it tends to lack certain things that make music enjoyable to me, things I actually have yet to figure out...

How nice for you. Then why aren't you stimulated by the complexity of jazz music? That's for highly intelligent people, such as yourself. As is classical music; many nuances in both the slow and fast pieces require great mental ability to follow. Why is it that they put you to sleep instead?

1) It's slow as hell and boring, I don't care how complex it is. 2) Thanks for the complement on my intellegence, but you could have done that without a smashing attack. 3) I do not dispute that, though classical tends to sound far better to me than jazz/blues, and sounds even better set to modern music as long as the old style instuments are retained in the remix, otherwise the remixes sound like shit (see the "bad techno" category). 4) Puts me to sleep because of the lack of speed, and a lot of classical tends to have "volume drops", which due to my hearing issues cause me to need to concentrate much harder than I should have to, which in turn makes me fall asleep.

Riiiight. Ok. You need to get past the 2 classical pieces you apparently know and broaden your horizons before you talk like this.

I would not be talking like this unless I had heard a hell of a lot more than 2 pieces of a given type of music.

Not overtax? But I thought you brain ran so much faster than everyone else's? Why waste that?

I don't care how fast it runs, it's VERY easy to overtax any kind of processing system, especially with external inputs, specifically incompatable inputs.


On another note, one which may help clear this up slightly. I do have rather fucked up hearing, and that's to put it nicely and mildly. To start with is the hearing range, I've been tested (I can prove this actually) to have a hearing range approximately from 12Hz to 64.7kHz, normal human hearing range is considered to be from 20Hz to 20/22kHz (depends on the source). Yes that means I can and do hear dogwhistles (I find them ungodly annoying and painful actually and have had to talk to the neighbors with dogs to not use the infernal things). To make matters worse over even the severely fucked up hearing range, is the fact I'm tonedeaf across nearly half of the normal ranges, specifically the lower and high-mid range, with two differant frequencies that actually cause me to end up functionally deaf until the sound goes away (appears to actually "latch-up" my auditory centers which shuts down or drowns out all the other inputs until that one goes away, very annoying, and Costco has both frequencies present in their store which is why I can't work there.)

These two issues cause a set of VERY distinct and noticable outward effects: 1) certain high pitched noises (anything over about 18kHz) causes me considerable physical pain as the auditory centers seem to directly put these frequencies into physical sensation, which just so happens to be extreme pain that even I can't keep under control with my mind. Primary offenders of this: flourescent lights, TV's, computer monitors at 60hz refresh, HV supplies (makes my hobby rather annoying sometimes), dog whistles, squeeky brakes, and many others. 2) To drown out a lot of the higher frequencies that are present in most music which people with normal hearing cannot hear, that some speakers can actually reproduce, I crank the base and kill the treble, otherwise about 80% of the music of any type out there hurts like hell. 3) Being tonedeaf I've developed a rather effective but annoying to others method of actually "hearing" those frequencies, if I can get the sound with those frequencies to be loud enough that I can feel it in the skull, I can hear it decently enough to interpret it, but it has to be ungodly loud (to others) for this to work.

4) A good share of the music I listen to is excruciatingly annoying for most arround me, but some of it is the most pleasant thing in the world for me, this has to do with the extra frequencies that are recorded in a lot of songs, frequencies and tones 99% of the population can't hear, which means they don't have a clue why a song that most of the world loathes is one that I absolutely love. Since I can't hear most of the stuff that drives others nuts, the frequencies they can't hear come out, which adds a new level to the music. Needless to say I have an affinity for string instuments and drums but loathe wind instruments, which tend to be high pitched. This also means that a lot of music that others like, I rather hate due to some frequencies being present, even worse are the songs which have those two "kill" frequencies in them, gets people around me going "WTF?!?" when they are trying to talk to me and I literally don't hear them to respond, even if the music or sound that's the culprit is VERY low volume, drives a lot of people nuts and I can't help it.

On a slightly differant and interesting note: a prime example of the above: in my #2 computer (LANparty comp) I have a 10krpm SCSI drive in it, the thing is louder than hell and drives everyone around me insane, well, I am rather fond of the sound it makes, it's VERY pleasant and soothing for me, best description for the sound is a sort of semi-high pitch thrumming whine. The other odd note is that most people don't like the sound of heavy machinery, like shipboard machinery which is always on, or the sound of computers in a server room. I am rather fond of this noise as well, there's so much complexity to it, it's always changing, but yet always the same and it has pleasant frequencies in it. I can, and have listened to such noise before for hours just listening to it, this is one reason I am planning to join the Navy, A friend gave me and my family a tour of the Carl Vinson a couple years ago, and right from the instant we set foot aboard I was VERY calm and enjoying myself, reason: the sound of the support machinery is very pleasant, drove my mom nuts for the 5 hours we were aboard.

Zaia, I hope this sheds some light on my taste in music.

I like:

Midnight Oil
The Living End
Metallica
Queen
AC/DC

Stuff like that

From my current WinAmp Playlists:

Santana with P.O.D. (America)
Linkin Park (Pts.of.Athrty)
Metallica (Hero of the Day)
Gordon Lightfoot (Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald)
Papa Roach (She Loves Me Not)
Metallica (The House That Jack Built)
Hoobastank (Crawling in the Dark)
Nickleback (How You Remind Me)
3 Doors Down (Kryptonite)
Linkin Park (In the End)
Aerosmith with RunDMC (Walk This Way)
Billy Joel (We Didn't Start the Fire)
Carl Orff (O Fortuna)
Barenaked Ladies (Light Up My Room)
Aerosmith (Janie's Got A Gun)
Elton John (Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting)
Matchbox Twenty (Crutch)
Goldfinger (99 Red Balloons)
Lenny Kravitz (Are You Gonna Go My Way)
Queen with David Bowie (Under Pressure [ra mix])

So...ummm...yeah, I got weird tastes in music