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Obviously, I'm disappointed that things didn't work out between Star Wars and me," DiCillo added. "But I'm grateful for the time we had. I grew a lot as a person, and I'll always have my beautiful memories of the Battle of Hoth."

Damn funny and in sad sort way true as well.

True, very true.

Everyone knows that Empire srikes back was the best SW film & everything else seems substandard nowadays (perhaps not in the 70's though).

LOTR's is blowing everything else away.

The third SW film sounds like it could be cool though.
Anakin turns to the dark side.
Thats what we want to see, serious ass kicking action, not some weird teenager trying to get laid or some stupid kid & his 'hilarious' alien friend.

Obe wan is cool why didn't the attack of the clones concentrate on him rather than the moody teenager & his chat up lines...
"sand is rough & gritty & makes my arse itch" stares into tarts eyes "not like you"

Prick.

Aragorn doesn't come up with chat up lines like that, women like him cause he's got ball's & tortures orcs for kicks.

Tolkien (& Peter Jackson) made a few mistakes with Sam though, he should have been given a crossbow or something then he could have killed a few orcs too.

NOOOOOOO NOOOOO MORE LEGOLAS IN THIS WORLD

*RUNS AROUND IN CIRCLES IN PANIC*

ARRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

*RUNS AROUND IN CIRLCES IN PANIC*

I don't know, as much as I love Peter Jackson's LoTR, I don't know if I'm quite ready (or ever will be) to abandon SW for it. Furthermore, it's completely unrealistic to expect one of the prequels to be as good as ESB.

* Fires tranquilizer dart at SWPIGWANG, pfooot, thump, zzzzzzzz. *

This is good article. When I saw Phantom Menance, I was like, huh? It was no wear near as good as any of the original 3. However, I think part of it is because the original 3 were such a cut above anything else at the time.

I've presonally gone and been converted after seeing Two Towers. While I still love Star Wars dearly, the original trilogy will always be great movies, LotR has them all beat by a mile.

TTT superior to ESB? Hmm, that's a toughie. I don't know if there's anything in the LoTR trilogy yet to match with watching Yoda levitate Luke's X-Wing.

Balrog!
Ringwraiths!
Big black ugly orcs & lots of them!
Wizards!
Ents!
Huge armies of big black ugly orcs attacking small fortresses!
Ent's kicking the shit out of small ugly goblins!

Yoda levitating the X-wing out of the swamp, very cool

Gandalf kicking the ass of a Balrog of Morgoth in midair while falling, FUCKING AMAZING, knocked me out of my seat!!!

Dont take me wrong, I love ANH, ESB and ROTJ, they are still in regular rotation in my movie repitior and I'll never get tired of them, but LotR are better movies over all, from effects to story to script and cinamatography.
(I know its not fair to compare effects from 1975 , to today so my comparison is with the effects seen in TPM and AOTC which are cartoonish at times compared to LotR's effects. I think George fell in love with the whole digital thing and forgot how good traditional models blended and enhanced with digital effects could be)

It's all up to choice and honestly not much in LotR astounded me as much as Star Wars.

I enjoy it, but I am not going to convince someone why I like SW and that being the reason another person should.

Balrog!

The rancor was soooo many times scarier, IMHO.

Ringwraiths!

They are probably the best thing in the LOTR movies thus far, that is the scariest guys yet. Boba Fett is better than them on so many levels though.

Big black ugly orcs & lots of them!

Stormies wiht big laser guns and lots of em!

Wizards!

JEDI.

Ents!

All SW has is a heaping helping of weird aliens.

Huge armies of big black ugly orcs attacking small fortresses!

Giant metal monsters crushing the Rebel shield generator!

Ent's kicking the shit out of small ugly goblins!

Reek and Acklay kicking the shit out of small ugly droids.

Sorry but for me Star Wars is way better than PJ's LOTR. There a good movie, but nothing can be the mythology that SW is. then again, there's always that rabid-Warsie in all of us that tells us to say these things.

Eric DiCillo wrote:When Darth Vader pitched the Emperor into the abyss, well, let's just say I'd never experienced a climax like that before.

Probably because he's never had sex.

I still think that Star Wars does a better job of disconnecting its universe from the real world than PJ's LoTR does. Whenever I watch LoTR, there's always the vague notion in the back of my head that this is Earth, but whenever I watch SW, both old and new, I don't doubt for a second that the events taking place before me are taking place in the galaxy far, far away, and not on Earth.

I like ESB more as a movie. With the whole LOTR storyline I know what's going to happen, it's really just a question of what won't be there. And when something new does happen, its because the story was changed, and I don't like that.

In books I'd take Vortex or Harold Coyle's Sword Point on through The Ten Thousand storyline over any Star Wars writing or LOTR

Durran Korr wrote:I still think that Star Wars does a better job of disconnecting its universe from the real world than PJ's LoTR does. Whenever I watch LoTR, there's always the vague notion in the back of my head that this is Earth, but whenever I watch SW, both old and new, I don't doubt for a second that the events taking place before me are taking place in the galaxy far, far away, and not on Earth.

Well to be fair Tolkein created the whole thing as a sort of very primative earth as an ancient prehistory of England from which it later drew all its stories and legends.

CmdrWilkens wrote:

Durran Korr wrote:I still think that Star Wars does a better job of disconnecting its universe from the real world than PJ's LoTR does. Whenever I watch LoTR, there's always the vague notion in the back of my head that this is Earth, but whenever I watch SW, both old and new, I don't doubt for a second that the events taking place before me are taking place in the galaxy far, far away, and not on Earth.

Well to be fair Tolkein created the whole thing as a sort of very primative earth as an ancient prehistory of England from which it later drew all its stories and legends.

There was a series of maps produced, which shows how the world of LOTR could warp into modern Earth. The Shire area becomes part of western Europe, while the lands south of Mordor become Africa and such.

However there all made by a third party, so I have no idea what kind of value is placed in them.