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IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT

Posted: 2003-02-05 01:32pm
by SWPIGWANG
Originally posted on the onion
Man Vows Never To Watch Another Sci-Fi Movie With Physicist Friend
DALLAS
—After watching Starship Troopers with friend Jeff Oberst Monday, Adam Buck vowed never to watch another science-fiction film with the Rice University physics professor. "First, he spends 20 minutes telling me how bugs could never get that big because of the way they breathe," said Buck, 28. "Then he goes off on how faster-than-light-speed travel isn't physically possible." Buck said the evening was even less enjoyable than the time they watched Back To The Future together.
Beats people on this board with big stick.

Posted: 2003-02-05 01:58pm
by Ghost Rider
And?

Posted: 2003-02-05 02:15pm
by Seele
Ghost Rider wrote:And?
I think he's talking about how the friend can't watch things without the whole Suspension of Disbelief. No imagination.

Wait a minute... that's about the Onion. DOH!!!!! :oops:

Posted: 2003-02-05 03:09pm
by Companion Cube
:) Heh, relentless interruptions can make good movies awful, so watching Starship Troopers like that must have been absolute hell.

Re: IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT

Posted: 2003-02-05 03:53pm
by Zaku-chan
SWPIGWANG wrote:
Originally posted on the onion
Man Vows Never To Watch Another Sci-Fi Movie With Physicist Friend
DALLAS
—After watching Starship Troopers with friend Jeff Oberst Monday, Adam Buck vowed never to watch another science-fiction film with the Rice University physics professor. "First, he spends 20 minutes telling me how bugs could never get that big because of the way they breathe," said Buck, 28. "Then he goes off on how faster-than-light-speed travel isn't physically possible." Buck said the evening was even less enjoyable than the time they watched Back To The Future together.
I hate people like that. Even the most scientifically illiterate movie can be good as long as it has a decent plot (Starship Troopers does not fall into this category).

Re: IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT

Posted: 2003-02-05 04:01pm
by Darth Wong
Zaku-chan wrote:I hate people like that. Even the most scientifically illiterate movie can be good as long as it has a decent plot (Starship Troopers does not fall into this category).
As long as they do not PRETEND to be scientifically literate. I actually enjoyed the little-watched and critically lambasted "Treasure Planet" even though it shit all over science, because it made no effort whatsoever. But when Star Trek regales you with techno-bullshit, it annoys the hell out of me. Similarly, when "Armageddon" describes a pseudo-realistic scenario, implies NASA participation, and bases its entire plot upon one of the dumbest fucking ideas to ever come down the pipe, I get pissed off.

Posted: 2003-02-05 04:15pm
by Admiral Valdemar
Just come back from watching Wrath of Khan (haven't seen in ages) and most of the sci-fi club take the piss out of things, y'know, where did the star come from for the Genesis planet and how does perspex stop radiation and why the hell does it have a revolving door.

Know what I think?

Fuck it, so long as people take it as fiction then that's alright, like has been said, when people believe the stuff that isn't even theoretically possible in the future that pisses me off. I just switch my science part of the brain off and enjoy it.

Afterall, you may as well nitpick every film or programme then for being a tad unrealistic from cop shows to the super unrealistic soaps.

Re: IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT

Posted: 2003-02-05 04:17pm
by Zaku-chan
Darth Wong wrote:
Zaku-chan wrote:I hate people like that. Even the most scientifically illiterate movie can be good as long as it has a decent plot (Starship Troopers does not fall into this category).
As long as they do not PRETEND to be scientifically literate. I actually enjoyed the little-watched and critically lambasted "Treasure Planet" even though it shit all over science, because it made no effort whatsoever. But when Star Trek regales you with techno-bullshit, it annoys the hell out of me. Similarly, when "Armageddon" describes a pseudo-realistic scenario, implies NASA participation, and bases its entire plot upon one of the dumbest fucking ideas to ever come down the pipe, I get pissed off.
Heh, Valdemar beat me to it:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:Fuck it, so long as people take it as fiction then that's alright, like has been said, when people believe the stuff that isn't even theoretically possible in the future that pisses me off. I just switch my science part of the brain off and enjoy it.

Unintentional hijacking :-P

Posted: 2003-02-05 04:30pm
by Pistolero
Darth Wong wrote:
Zaku-chan wrote:I hate people like that. Even the most scientifically illiterate movie can be good as long as it has a decent plot (Starship Troopers does not fall into this category).
As long as they do not PRETEND to be scientifically literate. I actually enjoyed the little-watched and critically lambasted "Treasure Planet" even though it shit all over science, because it made no effort whatsoever. But when Star Trek regales you with techno-bullshit, it annoys the hell out of me. Similarly, when "Armageddon" describes a pseudo-realistic scenario, implies NASA participation, and bases its entire plot upon one of the dumbest fucking ideas to ever come down the pipe, I get pissed off.
I thought Armageddon was a pretty entertaining movie. I am also aware it was filled with sci-fi bullshit. But how could we avoid the scenario depicted on that flick? I do realize this is off topic, but it would be interesting to explore the possibilities. I heard that focusing sunlight on the asteroid to gently push it off course. What Would Wong Do? (Hey! that could be our motto! Instead of WWJD, WWWD!!!!!)

Re: IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT

Posted: 2003-02-05 04:32pm
by jegs2
SWPIGWANG wrote:
Originally posted on the onion
Man Vows Never To Watch Another Sci-Fi Movie With Physicist Friend
DALLAS
—After watching Starship Troopers with friend Jeff Oberst Monday, Adam Buck vowed never to watch another science-fiction film with the Rice University physics professor. "First, he spends 20 minutes telling me how bugs could never get that big because of the way they breathe," said Buck, 28. "Then he goes off on how faster-than-light-speed travel isn't physically possible." Buck said the evening was even less enjoyable than the time they watched Back To The Future together.
Beats people on this board with big stick.
That's why it's referred to as science fiction.

"You mean we really can't travel through hyperspace ... really?"

Re: IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT

Posted: 2003-02-05 04:39pm
by Admiral Valdemar
jegs2 wrote:
SWPIGWANG wrote:
Originally posted on the onion
Man Vows Never To Watch Another Sci-Fi Movie With Physicist Friend
DALLAS
—After watching Starship Troopers with friend Jeff Oberst Monday, Adam Buck vowed never to watch another science-fiction film with the Rice University physics professor. "First, he spends 20 minutes telling me how bugs could never get that big because of the way they breathe," said Buck, 28. "Then he goes off on how faster-than-light-speed travel isn't physically possible." Buck said the evening was even less enjoyable than the time they watched Back To The Future together.
Beats people on this board with big stick.
That's why it's referred to as science fiction.

"You mean we really can't travel through hyperspace ... really?"
To be fair, sci-fi usually has some crdibility, 2001 for instance was pretty much real other than the monoliths. Games like I-War use Newtonian mechanics, hell, Star Wars has fusion powerplants.

All that can be done, eventually. Who knows. But some things will never happen, e.g. flying into a black hole, having bugs the size of BMWs and weapons that blow holes in planets yet are the size of rifles.

If it was all technically doable... hell, if the plot was totally realistic then the thing would suck. Bond would be dead from STDs, Kirk would have been vaped by Khan and Luke wouldn't be around for the EU.

Re: IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT

Posted: 2003-02-05 05:19pm
by Frank Hipper
Darth Wong wrote:
Zaku-chan wrote:I hate people like that. Even the most scientifically illiterate movie can be good as long as it has a decent plot (Starship Troopers does not fall into this category).
As long as they do not PRETEND to be scientifically literate. I actually enjoyed the little-watched and critically lambasted "Treasure Planet" even though it shit all over science, because it made no effort whatsoever. But when Star Trek regales you with techno-bullshit, it annoys the hell out of me. Similarly, when "Armageddon" describes a pseudo-realistic scenario, implies NASA participation, and bases its entire plot upon one of the dumbest fucking ideas to ever come down the pipe, I get pissed off.
And, sadly, those aren't even the worst aspects of the film. :(