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We've already seen who can speak it, so, who can read it, and what is your level of proficiency?

I have studied the kana (both sets) systematically up to no, so I know them all up to there plus a handful of others I haven't reached yet. I also know about 25 or so kanji, half of them being numbers.

I know both the kana alphabets and... probably about 40 kanji...

I'm a first year Japanese student, can read hiragana.
I'm Chinese, and have an fair understanding of kanji. Just won't know how to pronounce it

XaLEv wrote:We've already seen who can speak it, so, who can read it, and what is your level of proficiency?

I have studied the kana (both sets) systematically up to no, so I know them all up to there plus a handful of others I haven't reached yet. I also know about 25 or so kanji, half of them being numbers.

Hiragana, katakana and some kanji...

Hiragana, Katakana, and 175 Kanji. Just about to start my 2nd year of it at Uni.

I might still be able to recognise up to 200 individual Kanji and Kanji radicals, considering I have over 4 years of education under my belt.

200? That's a little low for 4 years at University level. I would've expected about 1000. Out of practise?

Archaic, I think you should make your sig a bit larger...

I'm in the middle of doing that. I've been fiddling for the past few minutes to find the right size. I'm far too used to how vB's handle it compared to phpBB's.

EDIT: Done.

Hiragana, katakana, and I can recognize about 500 kanji while being able to use around 200.

Archaic` wrote:200? That's a little low for 4 years at University level. I would've expected about 1000. Out of practise?

Utsanomiko has had four years high school level. He's only 19.

Ah...well, Japanese was a required course when I was in 4th grade, but the teacher was so damned boring that I remember none of it. I feel Latin is much easier, because

A) Whether I ask someone for directions or challenge them to mortal combat does not rest upon whether I add inflection to 'ah' or 'au'.

B) There are only 26 letters. Not 5,000, not 50,000, just 26.

But that's my opinion.

/hijack

4 years highschool, I mean. Which isn't too bad, host HS don't start untill 2nd-3rd year to teach any, and by 4th only have maybe 50 in their reportoire. I only took one semester in college. Would have taken another, but they told me it wouldn't count towards graduation (though my grades seem to indicate otherwise. Oh well, maybe next spring.)

HemlockGrey wrote:Ah...well, Japanese was a required course when I was in 4th grade, but the teacher was so damned boring that I remember none of it. I feel Latin is much easier, because

A) Whether I ask someone for directions or challenge them to mortal combat does not rest upon whether I add inflection to 'ah' or 'au'.

B) There are only 26 letters. Not 5,000, not 50,000, just 26.

But that's my opinion.

/hijack

Hey, if you want to just pass off for a 3rd grader or an ignoramus, you only need to know 50-60.

Hey, if you want to just pass off for a 3rd grader or an ignoramus, you only need to know 50-60.

I would prefer passing for a loud, obnoxious foreigner with a very large electric guitar and a penchant for cheese steaks. I find it enrichens the cultural experience.

Tell me, Hemlock, can you read Roman-alphabet words by just looking at them and recognizing each one's overall appearance without having to read each letter individually and put them together? How many words can you read this way? One thousand? Two? It's really no different with Japanese, once you get good at it.

And for that matter, there are no letters in Japanese. The closest it comes is the kana, and there are only eighty or so unique characters. But that's just nitpickery...

Tell me, Hemlock, can you read Roman-alphabet words by just looking at them and recognizing each one's overall appearance without having to read each letter individually and put them together? How many words can you read this way? One thousand? Two? It's really no different with Japanese, once you get good at it.

Yes, but you are assuming I am capable of getting good at it. If my 4th grade experience is anything to base it on, you can hand me a grocery list and I'll end up insulting the Emperor's mother to his face.

Hiragana, katakana, romaji (big effort) and probably 1000 kanji to read back when I was in college.

Now its probably under 100 kanji.

I need to get back into it.

If it's just kanji, I can dig it.

I mean, kanji is basically Chinese charactersa, and I *am* Chinese...

Though I have not mastered katakana and hiragana yet (I took a basic Japanese course and forgot most of it)

Wait, by 'individual kanji,' are we talking about complete separate characters, or do we mean basic radicals and basiccomponents? Cause I meant 200 radicals and basic kanji, the test I took for 4th year involved about 600 different words, so I might still know 500 individual kanji.