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Shitty sequels to good movies

Posted: 2003-02-08 08:27pm
by Stormbringer
What movie that you absolutely loved had a sequel you absolutely hated? The kind where you cringe at what they had done. The kind that taint forever the original.

My list

Highlander +2 - Could they have made worse movies if they tried? The first was bad ass but dear god the sequels were shitty.

Jurrasic Park - The first was fun. The second was okay and man did the third one ever blow chunks. God awful movie.

Boondock Saints 2 - There is no possible way that a sequel could do any thing but destroy the original. Bad idea. I don't care that it's not released, it shouldn't have been made.

Police Academy - admit it, the first one was a lot of fun the rest were crap.

Escape From New York/LA - The first one is a cult classic but the second one was crap on a stick.

Re: Shitty sequels to good movies

Posted: 2003-02-08 08:29pm
by RogueIce
Stormbringer wrote:Police Academy - admit it, the first one was a lot of fun the rest were crap.
Two and Three weren't that bad really... I even own them. Four was ok. Five and Seven (saw it on HBO a few times) might as well have not come out. Six was ok, but only because Fackler was back in full, instead of just an opening guy like in Three.

Posted: 2003-02-08 08:30pm
by XaLEv
Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection to a lesser extent.

Posted: 2003-02-08 08:31pm
by Defiant
Well, the first Children of the Corn was kind of creepy and cool. But the rest (I think they're on number 20 now) all went straight to video, and they really suck.

Oh, and let's not forget A Nightmare on Elm Street. The first one was ground-breaking and terrifying. The rest were stupid.

Posted: 2003-02-08 08:31pm
by Master of Ossus
Men in Black II.

That and Jaws.

Posted: 2003-02-08 08:35pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
Attack of the Clones. What a piece of shit movie! Nemesis was far better! :roll:

Posted: 2003-02-08 08:35pm
by RogueIce
Oh yeah, and MI2! Sure, it had great action, but none of the story of the original.

[Edit]"And no misdirected woo, which would be any John Woo movie..." -Homer Simpson (I think he's done some good movies, like Face/Off, but MI2 was nothing compared to the original.)[/Edit]

Posted: 2003-02-08 08:39pm
by Joe
Rocky V. The other sequels were not spectacular but tolerable.

Speed 2: Cruise Control. Terrible.

Posted: 2003-02-08 08:42pm
by jaeger115
Babe and Babe 2: The first one was nicely funny but the second was just horrible.

Posted: 2003-02-08 08:43pm
by Stormbringer
Durran Korr wrote:Speed 2: Cruise Control. Terrible.
I don't know about that. To me that was just worse crap following mediocre crap.

Posted: 2003-02-08 08:47pm
by RogueIce
Another one: US Seals 2. I never saw the first one, but the second one was HORRIBLE!!!!!!! They don't use guns because there's some gas that the slightest spark can make the whole island explode, yet they fight with swords and other metallic weapons??!! Oh, and every time they moved their head/arm/foot/ass/whatever, there was a swooshing sound. Worst piece of crap ever.

Posted: 2003-02-08 08:50pm
by Joe
Stormbringer wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:Speed 2: Cruise Control. Terrible.
I don't know about that. To me that was just worse crap following mediocre crap.
Hmm, I rather liked Speed.

Re: Shitty sequels to good movies

Posted: 2003-02-08 08:55pm
by InnerBrat
Stormbringer wrote:Jurrasic Park - The first was fun. The second was okay and man did the third one ever blow chunks. God awful movie.
bad, Stormbirnger, BAD!

JP3 kicked Ass!

In a totally 'lets blow science out of the window and see some dinosaurs!' way.

2 was rubbish. Shit unresearched twaddle.
But 3 was class after that! Not one argument you can make against it can't also stand agiainst Spielberg's original. It was a pure monster movie, and a great one at that.

Posted: 2003-02-08 09:00pm
by salm
phantom menace (is that a real sequel?)
reminded me of a happy little birthday party.
similar to that one ninja with the dog in this play station game. i´ve forgotten the name of it. when he wins he puts his thumb up and says "yay". sort of an even dumber version of a teenager micheal dudikov.

attack of the clones was good again.

Posted: 2003-02-08 09:24pm
by Darth Wong
I actually liked the cheapie baseball comedy "Major League" with Charlie Sheen and Wesley Snipes, cliches and all. But the second one was indescribably bad; it was if they literally got a high school junior to write the script.

Posted: 2003-02-08 09:27pm
by neoolong
Darth Wong wrote:I actually liked the cheapie baseball comedy "Major League" with Charlie Sheen and Wesley Snipes, cliches and all. But the second one was indescribably bad; it was if they literally got a high school junior to write the script.
Was the sequel Back to the Minors?

Posted: 2003-02-08 09:40pm
by salm
neoolong wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I actually liked the cheapie baseball comedy "Major League" with Charlie Sheen and Wesley Snipes, cliches and all. But the second one was indescribably bad; it was if they literally got a high school junior to write the script.
Was the sequel Back to the Minors?
the cleveland indian movie. yeah, the first one was cool. the second one was idiotic.
i believe there realy was a third one takingplace in the minor league.

Posted: 2003-02-08 10:01pm
by Darth Fanboy
In Major League the indians sucked

In Major League II they were supposed to do good but started out sucking, then got to the world series or something, and Pedro Cerrano found god and didn't do well again until he regained faith in Voodoo.

Back to the Minors was the third installment, and reaaaaaaaaaallllllly bad.

Posted: 2003-02-08 10:04pm
by Stravo
No no, you're all forgetting the absolute worst sequel to a good movie.

Godfather III....THE PAIN!!!!

Posted: 2003-02-08 10:35pm
by Sonnenburg
I've already gone off before on Highlander 2, so this time I'm going to go off on The Lost World, which I think was far worse than 3.

First of all, we get to see the Bill Paxton Proviso operate in full force throughout this film (the rule is that Bill Paxton cannot survive a movie while armed) for all characters. The only person armed with a gun who lives is the Great White Hunter known as Mr. Kobiyashi, who survives only because of help from Keyser Soze. Kidding, of course; he survives because he recognizes that guns are bad. The people to survive are those who are unarmed... in other words, those least likely to. It's part of that whole ET walkie-talkie thing from last year.

Next we have the Designated Hero rule operating in full for Eco-terrorist Vince Vaughn. This guy commits the biggest bone-headed move of the film: bringing the baby T Rex back to the camp. Coma patients who had been wheeled into the theater actually sat up and said "That's stupid!" before collapsing back into blissful unconsciousness, assuring they wouldn't have to sit through the rest of Vince's "heroics." His actions directly lead to the death of the balding engineer, but nobody ever blames him for that because he's the Designated Hero (if you don't believe he's the Designated Hero, note that he takes control of the mercenaries away from the guy in charge and is given the responisbility for saving everyone by reaching the radio). He also indirectly leads to almost every death on the island because the great dinosaur escape he causes destroys the camp so they can't get help. Again. nobody blames him for the death of all those people. Then, as if we haven't learned enough by now that he's severely judgment impaired, he takes the bullets of the gun and prevents the T Rex from being killed... which means even more people get killed because of this guy. Yet all of the film's ire is directed towards Peter, Evil Capitalist Scum (TM), whose crime is far greater than murder: taking a few of the dinosaurs that are the property of his company off the island. There is no place in hell deep enough for you Peter.

Compies.... Ask yourself one question: if a little girl can survive a compy attack pretty much unscathed, how are the little bastards going to take down a full-sized highly-trained mercenary? But why should the mercenary know how to fight... it's not as if any other expert in the film had a clue what the hell they were doing. The nature expert babe Clarice Starling doesn't think for a second that handling a baby Stegosaurus is bad with a capital "whoops!" We're told she worked at the San Diego Zoo, which certainly explains why she's horrified at the thought of taking artificially created dinosaurs and putting them in a zoo in San Diego. I should point out that she's the Designated Feminist Ideal for this film, illustrated by the fact that she's a tough woman who ignores Jeff Goldblum's advice (not to be confused with everyone else who ignores his advice and is painted as an idiot). But getting back to people who don't know their job... bald engineer guy. Hate to diss him since he died as a victim of other people's stupidity, but it was almost revenge that they nearly died for his (let's build an armored vehicle and use glass for the windows... [Dr Evil]:Riiiight[/Dr Evil]). Then there's the trained mercenaries, who know there's an ambushing predator around, who walk single file through a tall field of grass. Hey, you guys have automatic weapons; burn the field down and leave nice open country. Instead they all die stupidly, leaving the people least equipped to survive in the hostile wilderness the only ones to walk away. And I'm not even getting into the Bob Bakker-like guy who not only knows less about dinosaurs than a glorified cage cleaner, but also is stupid enough to jump into the jaws of the T Rex because of some damn snake.

I will pause, though, to give the film props for doing the politically incorrect thing of letting a dog get eaten.

Getting back to the people who know nothing: where was the SWAT team? The cops show up, but they simply send in a half dozen squad cars? And the police, who are there to serve the public good and ensure the health and safety of its citizens, even at the cost of their own lives... run away? If they'd taken out shotguns (or even their pistols) they could have tried to at least contain it while the SWAT team arrives. Instead video store guy gets chomped down in the streets. And they thought Rodney King got them bad press?

Then the film gets into downright sick territory. Peter (the bad guy) dies slowly and horribly as the T Rex causes no end of injuries to him before letting baby T Rex eat him alive. This scene is played as being cute!
Of course, because watching people who are bad get tortured is a good moral lesson for all of us.

Posted: 2003-02-08 10:37pm
by Kelly Antilles
Just found one on tv....

Smokey and the Bandit 2.

Posted: 2003-02-08 10:39pm
by ArmorPierce
Master of Ossus wrote:Men in Black II.
Yeah Men in Black II sucked, I could have come up with something better than that movie ended up being.

Posted: 2003-02-08 10:45pm
by Coyote
Jurassic Park III was enjoyable right up to the end, then it totally sucked ass. I was enjoying that last minute buildup-- I thought we were going to see a Carnosaur go head-to-head with a platoon of US Marines and I was settling in for a hellacious slugfest. Then it ended up like a cross betwen "Gilligan's Island" and "Lord of the Flies". Lame!

Posted: 2003-02-08 10:45pm
by salm
ArmorPierce wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:Men in Black II.
Yeah Men in Black II sucked, I could have come up with something better than that movie ended up being.
true! but men in black I was piece of shit too.

it sucked and sucked and sucked and then it was over.

it would be cool if these little aliens that smoked and drink came out of the movie and went into another movie that doesnt suck.

Posted: 2003-02-08 10:55pm
by GrandMasterTerwynn
ArmorPierce wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:Men in Black II.
Yeah Men in Black II sucked, I could have come up with something better than that movie ended up being.
Hey, I didn't mind the first half of MIB II. The Will Smith character was actually useful and tolerable. And then Tommy Lee Jones just had to show up, and then we were treated to Will Smith playing the Fresh Prince of Bell-air all over again.