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An Eery Cowboy Bebop/Columbia coincidence
Posted: 2003-02-08 09:24pm
by Stormbringer
I'm watching Cowboy Bebop and just found an eery coincidence to the recent Columbia tragedy. In it Doohan's shuttle is the Columbia and to make it weirder at the end after rescuing Spike he's worried about burning up because of missing tiles. Eery to watch the episode now.
And I wonder if they'll pull that from Cartoon Network for now.
Posted: 2003-02-08 10:53pm
by Dalton
I was just thinking about that the other day
Posted: 2003-02-08 10:58pm
by jaeger115
Wonder if it isn't a concidence because it was right after the Columbia tragedy. Then again, the executives who decided to air this would have to be insensitive or crazy.
Re: An Eery Cowboy Bebop/Columbia coincidence
Posted: 2003-02-08 11:00pm
by Admiral Valdemar
Stormbringer wrote:I'm watching Cowboy Bebop and just found an eery coincidence to the recent Columbia tragedy. In it Doohan's shuttle is the Columbia and to make it weirder at the end after rescuing Spike he's worried about burning up because of missing tiles. Eery to watch the episode now.
And I wonder if they'll pull that from Cartoon Network for now.
I remembered that ep and how they survived (just).
But I never knew it was the
Columbia.
Re: An Eery Cowboy Bebop/Columbia coincidence
Posted: 2003-02-08 11:03pm
by Kuja
Stormbringer wrote:I'm watching Cowboy Bebop and just found an eery coincidence to the recent Columbia tragedy. In it Doohan's shuttle is the Columbia and to make it weirder at the end after rescuing Spike he's worried about burning up because of missing tiles. Eery to watch the episode now.
And I wonder if they'll pull that from Cartoon Network for now.
Holy shit, that's scary.
Posted: 2003-02-08 11:04pm
by Exonerate
jaeger115 wrote:Wonder if it isn't a concidence because it was right after the Columbia tragedy. Then again, the executives who decided to air this would have to be insensitive or crazy.
I think its good to have somebody to have the guts to air that.
Posted: 2003-02-08 11:09pm
by DPDarkPrimus
Ah, one of those freaky things that happen totally by accident!
Scary...
Re: An Eery Cowboy Bebop/Columbia coincidence
Posted: 2003-02-08 11:12pm
by Stormbringer
Admiral Valdemar wrote:I remembered that ep and how they survived (just).
But I never knew it was the Columbia.
Yup, it was
Columbia. You can see the name clearly when Doohan rolls it out.
Exonerate wrote:jaeger115 wrote:Wonder if it isn't a concidence because it was right after the Columbia tragedy. Then again, the executives who decided to air this would have to be insensitive or crazy.
I think its good to have somebody to have the guts to air that.
It hasn't aired yet, I was watching the DVD. It should be coming up soon though. I'm wondering if they will air it especially given that it was nearly destroyed by the same thing that killed the real
Columbia.
Posted: 2003-02-08 11:24pm
by Admiral Valdemar
Just watched the episode again on my PC, easily is quite a humbling thought that in our reality that shuttle would be doing no such thing in under 70 years.
Posted: 2003-02-09 12:22am
by Spanky The Dolphin
I think it's just a mere coincidence that it was the
Columbia. There were only four active shuttles back in 1998, so they had a one-in-four chance of getting the right one.
Also, why wouldn't Doohan worry about tiles falling off? The damn thing was more than eighty years old at the time.
I think you guys are blowing it out of proportion by calling it "eery".
And for a CN executive to pull this episode from the schedule would have to be more oversensitive then you guys are...
Posted: 2003-02-09 12:31am
by Stormbringer
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I think it's just a mere coincidence that it was the
Columbia. There were only four active shuttles back in 1998, so they had a one-in-four chance of getting the right one.
Also, why wouldn't Doohan worry about tiles falling off? The damn thing was more than eighty years old at the time.
I think you guys are blowing it out of proportion by calling it "eery".
I don't think it's some mystical prediction. It's just kind of weird to see a shuttle that's now scattered over northen texas go down in an anime for the same reasons.
It's like seeing the Twin Towers on the Simpsons or The Critic. Eery because you realize they're gone.
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:And for a CN executive to pull this episode from the schedule would have to be more oversensitive then you guys are...
Well, it happened after Septemeber 11th, Fox pulled the New York Simpsons episode and Comedy Central messed with the Critic opening credits.
Posted: 2003-02-09 01:21am
by DPDarkPrimus
Stormbringer wrote:Spanky The Dolphin wrote:And for a CN executive to pull this episode from the schedule would have to be more oversensitive then you guys are...
Well, it happened after Septemeber 11th, Fox pulled the New York Simpsons episode and Comedy Central messed with the Critic opening credits.
I've seen the Critic opening w/ the Trade Center on Comedy Central recently, and I saw the Simpsons NYC episode last November.
Posted: 2003-02-09 01:25am
by Stormbringer
DPDarkPrimus wrote:Stormbringer wrote:Spanky The Dolphin wrote:And for a CN executive to pull this episode from the schedule would have to be more oversensitive then you guys are...
Well, it happened after Septemeber 11th, Fox pulled the New York Simpsons episode and Comedy Central messed with the Critic opening credits.
I've seen the Critic opening w/ the Trade Center on Comedy Central recently, and I saw the Simpsons NYC episode last November.
That was in the first few months afterward. Once things cooled down they were brought back. The same thing happened with Buffy's
Earshot after Columbine.
If it happens with Cowboy Bebop I'm sure it won't be permanent.
Posted: 2003-02-09 01:27am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Speaking of which, on the very day of 11 September, Cartoon Network actually CANCELLED Mobile Suit Gundam, even though there were only eight episodes left to air. They would of had to make that decision in less then six hours.
To me, that little post-event reaction/thought is rather mild, and I wouldn't call it eery. It's more like a casual "Hey, there's the WTC.", and it was mainly triggered by all that image revisionism talk that was going on right after the event occured.
Posted: 2003-02-09 01:46am
by Stormbringer
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Speaking of which, on the very day of 11 September, Cartoon Network actually CANCELLED Mobile Suit Gundam, even though there were only eight episodes left to air. They would of had to make that decision in less then six hours.
Exactly what does that have to do with this?
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:To me, that little post-event reaction/thought is rather mild, and I wouldn't call it eery. It's more like a casual "Hey, there's the WTC.", and it was mainly triggered by all that image revisionism talk that was going on right after the event occured.
It's a weird feeling seeing the Columbia in a cartoon nearly fall victim to what really happened to it.
Posted: 2003-02-09 02:29am
by Cal Wright
Wasn't Columbia the first shuttle to fly? If so, then that would be why they used it. Does seem eerie in a way though.
Posted: 2003-02-09 03:15am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Stormbringer wrote:Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Speaking of which, on the very day of 11 September, Cartoon Network actually CANCELLED Mobile Suit Gundam, even though there were only eight episodes left to air. They would of had to make that decision in less then six hours.
Exactly what does that have to do with this?
It's an aside. You bring up episodes being pulled and individual programme content being altered due to 9-11, I mention an entire
series being cancelled within six hours of the attack.
Re: An Eery Cowboy Bebop/Columbia coincidence
Posted: 2003-02-09 03:18am
by Ghost Rider
Stormbringer wrote:I'm watching Cowboy Bebop and just found an eery coincidence to the recent Columbia tragedy. In it Doohan's shuttle is the Columbia and to make it weirder at the end after rescuing Spike he's worried about burning up because of missing tiles. Eery to watch the episode now.
And I wonder if they'll pull that from Cartoon Network for now.
GAH...not another one to not to offend sensitive fans.
I hope not...because yeah they touch sensitive subjective persay...but just to elimanate them because one sensitive might complain...might as well elimanate TV(and even then people will scream somthing)
Posted: 2003-02-09 03:10pm
by DPDarkPrimus
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Stormbringer wrote:Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Speaking of which, on the very day of 11 September, Cartoon Network actually CANCELLED Mobile Suit Gundam, even though there were only eight episodes left to air. They would of had to make that decision in less then six hours.
Exactly what does that have to do with this?
It's an aside. You bring up episodes being pulled and individual programme content being altered due to 9-11, I mention an entire
series being cancelled within six hours of the attack.
Spanky, you forget that CN simply used 9-11 as an excuse to yank MSG, which was getting low ratings and which they were under contract to show in it's entirety.
Posted: 2003-02-09 03:13pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Yeah, I heard about that, but I never really heard anything that backed it up.