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North Korea's Missiles

Posted: 2003-02-12 03:15pm
by Col. Crackpot
CNN is reporting that the CIA has confirmed North Korea now has missles capable of striking the United States. yay :roll:

Posted: 2003-02-12 03:19pm
by Enforcer Talen
let the games begin.

Posted: 2003-02-12 03:24pm
by TrailerParkJawa
I saw the clip where this was reported. The missile has never been tested but still, it is not a good thing.

Posted: 2003-02-12 03:28pm
by Sea Skimmer
They've had that untested weapon since the early 1990's. CNN likely missed the 1994 date on the report.

Posted: 2003-02-12 03:40pm
by Shinova
WW3 seems just around the corner, or at least a short nuclear exchange.

Posted: 2003-02-12 03:49pm
by Sea Skimmer
Shinova wrote:WW3 seems just around the corner, or at least a short nuclear exchange.
North Korea has not lasted this long be being that stupid.
Hell the most likely reason for all this crap from the DPRK is they don't have a working device, but want to make everyone think they do to buy enough time to complete one. As long as the US cant be sure and cant locate them it cant act against North Korea or its possibul nuclear weapon.

Posted: 2003-02-12 04:27pm
by Nathan F
I have been wondering about this lately. What if NK is trying to get our attention to draw us AWAY from Iraq. I mean, they will most likely be the next. Sure, we need to keep a close eye on NK, but we don't need to be distracted from the situation at hand.

Posted: 2003-02-12 05:18pm
by Howedar
If this is accurate, for once the West Coast is more threatened than the East Coast. How the hell often does that happen?

Posted: 2003-02-12 05:28pm
by Col. Crackpot
Sea Skimmer wrote:They've had that untested weapon since the early 1990's. CNN likely missed the 1994 date on the report.
yes, but now they supposedly have a nuclear warhead to put on it. sigh....

Posted: 2003-02-12 07:28pm
by The Dark
Howedar wrote:If this is accurate, for once the West Coast is more threatened than the East Coast. How the hell often does that happen?
*Shrug* China's been able to hit LA with nukes for about a decade now. Quite frankly, Florida doesn't seem so bad when that thought pops into my head. At least Disney's not a big enough target to waste a nuke on, assuming enemies had the range for it.

Posted: 2003-02-12 08:21pm
by jaeger115
*Shrug* China's been able to hit LA with nukes for about a decade now. Quite frankly, Florida doesn't seem so bad when that thought pops into my head. At least Disney's not a big enough target to waste a nuke on, assuming enemies had the range for it.
It'd be nice to see these annoying Disney characters get fried in microwave radiation from a 25 MT bomb.. :twisted:

Posted: 2003-02-12 08:39pm
by Sea Skimmer
Howedar wrote:If this is accurate, for once the West Coast is more threatened than the East Coast. How the hell often does that happen?
By East coast, they mean Alaska . They don't have anything that can reach the lower 48.

Posted: 2003-02-12 08:43pm
by Sea Skimmer
The Dark wrote:
Howedar wrote:If this is accurate, for once the West Coast is more threatened than the East Coast. How the hell often does that happen?
*Shrug* China's been able to hit LA with nukes for about a decade now. Quite frankly, Florida doesn't seem so bad when that thought pops into my head. At least Disney's not a big enough target to waste a nuke on, assuming enemies had the range for it.
Well there was the feared threat of Cuba nuclear power plant, though of course work stopped about 10 years ago when it was nowhere near complete. US is still evidently paying 7 million dollars a year to maintain a series of radiation detectors along the coast in case it ever melts down.

Miami is very worth a nuke though.

Posted: 2003-02-12 08:51pm
by Sr.mal
jaeger115 wrote:
*Shrug* China's been able to hit LA with nukes for about a decade now. Quite frankly, Florida doesn't seem so bad when that thought pops into my head. At least Disney's not a big enough target to waste a nuke on, assuming enemies had the range for it.
It'd be nice to see these annoying Disney characters get fried in microwave radiation from a 25 MT bomb.. :twisted:
Nukes dont release microwave radiation. They release thermal radiation (heat), alpha beta and gamma particles, and some others.

Posted: 2003-02-12 08:53pm
by jaeger115
Sr.mal wrote:
jaeger115 wrote:
*Shrug* China's been able to hit LA with nukes for about a decade now. Quite frankly, Florida doesn't seem so bad when that thought pops into my head. At least Disney's not a big enough target to waste a nuke on, assuming enemies had the range for it.
It'd be nice to see these annoying Disney characters get fried in microwave radiation from a 25 MT bomb.. :twisted:
Nukes dont release microwave radiation. They release thermal radiation (heat), alpha beta and gamma particles, and some others.
Oops. That's what I meant. :oops:

Posted: 2003-02-12 09:22pm
by Uraniun235
The Dark wrote:
Howedar wrote:If this is accurate, for once the West Coast is more threatened than the East Coast. How the hell often does that happen?
*Shrug* China's been able to hit LA with nukes for about a decade now. Quite frankly, Florida doesn't seem so bad when that thought pops into my head. At least Disney's not a big enough target to waste a nuke on, assuming enemies had the range for it.
Really? I'd think the hurricanes would be a little worrisome.

Bah, for real isolation from nuclear attack I'd go to Idaho. I mean, seriously, you never hear about Idaho in the news. There aren't (IIRC) any nuke silos in Idaho, nor major population centers.

Posted: 2003-02-12 09:26pm
by The Dark
Uraniun235 wrote:
The Dark wrote:
Howedar wrote:If this is accurate, for once the West Coast is more threatened than the East Coast. How the hell often does that happen?
*Shrug* China's been able to hit LA with nukes for about a decade now. Quite frankly, Florida doesn't seem so bad when that thought pops into my head. At least Disney's not a big enough target to waste a nuke on, assuming enemies had the range for it.
Really? I'd think the hurricanes would be a little worrisome.
Well, I've been in Orlando for almost 20 years. In that time, we've been hit semi-directly by one tropical storm and brushed by three hurricanes (IIRC). Most of them swing around. That one that stalled off North Carolina did more damage to them than anything around here. Only Andrew did more damage AFAIK, and that was mostly centered on Miami.

Posted: 2003-02-12 09:41pm
by Sea Skimmer
Sr.mal wrote:
jaeger115 wrote:
*Shrug* China's been able to hit LA with nukes for about a decade now. Quite frankly, Florida doesn't seem so bad when that thought pops into my head. At least Disney's not a big enough target to waste a nuke on, assuming enemies had the range for it.
It'd be nice to see these annoying Disney characters get fried in microwave radiation from a 25 MT bomb.. :twisted:
Nukes dont release microwave radiation. They release thermal radiation (heat), alpha beta and gamma particles, and some others.
Some neutron radiation as well, though that’s normally sucked up by the second stage of a thermonuclear bomb. It when you don't have this yield boosting second stage, and just release the big mass of neutrons that you get an Enhanced Radiation Device, or neutron bomb. There's a bit more too it, but that’s the basic idea.

Posted: 2003-02-12 11:02pm
by phongn
The Dark wrote:
Uraniun235 wrote: Really? I'd think the hurricanes would be a little worrisome.
Well, I've been in Orlando for almost 20 years. In that time, we've been hit semi-directly by one tropical storm and brushed by three hurricanes (IIRC). Most of them swing around. That one that stalled off North Carolina did more damage to them than anything around here. Only Andrew did more damage AFAIK, and that was mostly centered on Miami.
You also live in Central Florida. We here on the coast (Tampa Bay area here) have a lot more to fear from hurricanes, though things like tropical storms aren't too much of a worry (hell, they didn't even cancel school when we got sideswiped)

Posted: 2003-02-12 11:06pm
by The Dark
phongn wrote:You also live in Central Florida. We here on the coast (Tampa Bay area here) have a lot more to fear from hurricanes, though things like tropical storms aren't too much of a worry (hell, they didn't even cancel school when we got sideswiped)
True, Orlando's fairly well protected. Even Lakeland didn't get hit hard by that last one, and it's only about 50 miles inland. I walked around a local lake during the storm, and got roughly 1.5 miles between the time the first arm passed and the second arm hit. It was basically a big windy thunderstorm by the time it got there. Tampa, Pensacola, Miami, and the Keys are all vulnerable.