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Jedi Religion
Posted: 2003-02-13 12:17pm
by DocHorror
Interesting little tidbit of infomation...
Jedi Religion
Personally I think its great that people are happy to believe whatever thaey want to believe...
Posted: 2003-02-13 12:23pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
They just did it to screw with the system.
I'm surprised that the goverment actually caved in.
Re: Jedi Religion
Posted: 2003-02-13 12:25pm
by Rob Wilson
DocHorror wrote:Interesting little tidbit of infomation...
Jedi Religion
Personally I think its great that people are happy to believe whatever thaey want to believe...
Well I put it down for a laugh, I'm amazed 390,000 other people did as well.
Next time I'm putting Sith.
Time for advanced lightsabre training and levitation of objects to be added to the P.E. schedules across Britain.
Posted: 2003-02-13 12:28pm
by Rob Wilson
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:They just did it to screw with the system.
I'm surprised that the goverment actually caved in.
It hasn't become a religion! you don't create religions through census results.
The government had to tally
all results, so if people had put Church of the Giant purple people eater, that would have showed up in the results... and still not be recognised as a valid religion.
Posted: 2003-02-13 12:39pm
by Darth Wong
Why can't it be a real religion?
I put "Jedi" in my Canadian census form, and I defy any government lawyer to prove that Jedi has less intrinsic validity than any other religion. Hmmm ... based on a source which is known to be inaccurate? Nope, that's common to all religions. Scientifically invalid? Nope, that's common to all religions. Not taken seriously by Christians? I guess we'd better go back to the Middle Ages and declare all non-Christian religions mere heresy then.
Posted: 2003-02-13 12:41pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Rob Wilson wrote:Spanky The Dolphin wrote:They just did it to screw with the system.
I'm surprised that the goverment actually caved in.
It hasn't become a religion! you don't create religions through census results.
The government had to tally
all results, so if people had put Church of the Giant purple people eater, that would have showed up in the results... and still not be recognised as a valid religion.
Duh, I know that. I do read SNOPES, you know.
Re: Jedi Religion
Posted: 2003-02-13 12:50pm
by jegs2
DocHorror wrote:Interesting little tidbit of infomation...
Jedi Religion
Personally I think its great that people are happy to believe whatever thaey want to believe...
Wrong forum ... needs to go to the
Science, Logic, And Morality forum.
Posted: 2003-02-13 01:06pm
by Rob Wilson
Darth Wong wrote:Why can't it be a real religion?
It has no Gods.
Posted: 2003-02-13 01:15pm
by Darth Servo
Darth Wong wrote:Why can't [Jedi] be a real religion?
It doesn't have tax-exempt status. That's why.
Posted: 2003-02-13 01:31pm
by neoolong
Darth Wong wrote:Why can't it be a real religion?
I put "Jedi" in my Canadian census form, and I defy any government lawyer to prove that Jedi has less intrinsic validity than any other religion. Hmmm ... based on a source which is known to be inaccurate? Nope, that's common to all religions. Scientifically invalid? Nope, that's common to all religions. Not taken seriously by Christians? I guess we'd better go back to the Middle Ages and declare all non-Christian religions mere heresy then.
Doesn't Lucasfilm own the rights to the word Jedi and stuff? Or does it fall under fair use, or whatever you have up there?
Posted: 2003-02-13 01:47pm
by Rob Wilson
neoolong wrote:Darth Wong wrote:Why can't it be a real religion?
I put "Jedi" in my Canadian census form, and I defy any government lawyer to prove that Jedi has less intrinsic validity than any other religion. Hmmm ... based on a source which is known to be inaccurate? Nope, that's common to all religions. Scientifically invalid? Nope, that's common to all religions. Not taken seriously by Christians? I guess we'd better go back to the Middle Ages and declare all non-Christian religions mere heresy then.
Doesn't Lucasfilm own the rights to the word Jedi and stuff? Or does it fall under fair use, or whatever you have up there?
I think it's fair use, provided you're not recieving any money from it.
Posted: 2003-02-13 05:09pm
by ReinnResauq
www.forceacademy.com
Jedi validity as a religion not withstanding, the philosophies behind it are very fascinating. In fact, that site above and by extension, the Force, is probably the reason I'm an atheist now. Reading about the shadow Jedi gave me the last little push I needed to officially say goodbye to Christianity and start reading about other religions. That of course, made me realize how stupid they all are and become an atheist.
In another topic, "Jedi" isn't the right term for those who follow the Force. Jedi implies that you either are a knight or a padawan under a master, neither of which anyone can be. Force Acolyte or Jedi Acolyte might be a more appropriate term. Maybe the closest thing to Jedi on earth would be the monks who practice Shaolin Kung Fu. They, like the Jedi, train at a very early age, combine intense physical aptitude with an even more intense mental aptitude, include a religious philosophy, and have categories such as padawan and master.