Was I In The Wrong?

[Admiral Valdemar]

Okay, after just having a convo with a female friend on MSN whilst she watched the football match and saw an argument among players, we somehow got onto the topic of rioting and protestors.

What do you think of it? I'm Nick in the convo anyway, she logged straight off after this too.

Nick says:
Fisticuffs, unless there's a water cannon I refuse to turn my TV on...

Nick says:
I'm hoping the peace protests today involve one. I was gonna go.

Yes, It Does Hurt When I Smile says:
y? after euro 2000 i think there fuckin awful - that was terrible what they did to the fans

Nick says:
The fans weren't exactly helping their cause by destroying shit. I have no sympathy for rioters. Just wait until VMAP comes out; microwave weaponry on a Landrover.

Yes, It Does Hurt When I Smile says:
whatever

Nick says:
Rioters don't achieve anything be they footie or whatever. Hell, I half expected riots after the Australia match, I noticed fans booing during the anthems.

Yes, It Does Hurt When I Smile says:
uve not bin 2 a footy match hav u? u obviously dont get it. they shouldnt b such rses but then they only do it coz the authorities r so heavy handed and dont 'control' the crowds they just lay into them with battons!!! its betta in england coz they dont do that here but on the continent they do and thats when the crowd fight back

Yes, It Does Hurt When I Smile says:
and it gets outta hand

Nick says:
I have seen them firsthand before when meeting a mate, I can't say it looked fun.

Yes, It Does Hurt When I Smile says:
i was at the everton v united match when there was some trouble and the police were fab

Nick says:
He's an avid Sheffield Wednesday fan and hates the police like nobodies business.

Yes, It Does Hurt When I Smile says:
didnt take it too far but got it under control and me and sarah were perfectly safe and didnt get hurt at all

Nick says:
Well that's a good thing.

Yes, It Does Hurt When I Smile says:
yeah but wednesday and millwall and leeds and cardiff fans r like that

Nick says:
The police are there to avoid trouble brewing, anyone who fights them for that deserves a baton to the head unless we're suddenly turning into some sort of fascist state.

Nick says:
i noticed

Nick says:
David loves to fight.

Yes, It Does Hurt When I Smile says:
every1 nos that - thats y u dont go to those home matches if ur an away supporter

Nick says:
I ain't going back there again, I'm sure they have an army to take on the police when they feel upto it. Seems sad that they have to ruin such a good occasion by rioting like that. Can't blame the cops for having a bad job holding them back.

Yes, It Does Hurt When I Smile says:
well then he can fight - but not all supporters r like that

Nick says:
I never expected they were, if they all were like that then footie would've been banned long ago as being hazardous for your health.

Yes, It Does Hurt When I Smile says:
well then dont put us down

Nick says:
I wasn't, I was putting rioters down.

Yes, It Does Hurt When I Smile says:
and dont preach bout something u dont no bout

Nick says:
Rioting I have seen many a time, it's not just football. It's quite simple; you break the law, you get punished. If you hate water cannon, don't break the law.

Yes, It Does Hurt When I Smile says:
oh bog off

Nick says:
What?! So the laws are there just as a handy reference? People moan when they break the law.

[Mr Bean]

Thanks to the way you posted that it looks like everything was said by one person so I have no idea if your right or wrong as you can't tell which is which easily

[Keevan_Colton]

It took me a while to translate.....

Well, I've worked as a bouncer/steward and frankly....beating half those assholes about the head with a lead pipe is only the start of what I think ought to be done.....napalm enemas figure somewhere on the list.....

As for the police....remember the old line....
Whats the difference between a magicians wand and a policemans baton?
One is used for cunning stunts.....

[Admiral Valdemar]

Thanks to the way you posted that it looks like everything was said by one person so I have no idea if your right or wrong as you can't tell which is which easily

Yeah, sorry about that, it's hard to format these convos unlike ICQ or AIM.

[Frank Hipper]

How could you possibly be in the wrong when you said rioters should expect harsh treatment? Sounds like you were talking to a complete asshole.

[Admiral Valdemar]

How could you possibly be in the wrong when you said rioters should expect harsh treatment? Sounds like you were talking to a complete asshole.

She's actually a good friend and at Cambridge though she doesn't care for uni despite being super smart, she really just wants to work in the stables she was working in before on barely £100/week. A sad loss, that talent gone to waste and her online grammar annoys me, she loves exclamation marks.

[Lord Pounder]

Coming from Belfast and living near a so called "Peace Line" i've experienced my fair share of riots. But the bottom line is that if your involved ur breaking the law and you do deserve a batton to the head, or as my case was a plastic bullet to the balls.

[Admiral Valdemar]

Coming from Belfast and living near a so called "Peace Line" i've experienced my fair share of riots. But the bottom line is that if your involved ur breaking the law and you do deserve a batton to the head, or as my case was a plastic bullet to the balls.

Well you even had it done to yourself and admit to it so I guess it's bad.

[Lord Pounder]

Thats the thing these days in the UK the public seems outraged when the police defend themselves or something.

[Admiral Valdemar]

Thats the thing these days in the UK the public seems outraged when the police defend themselves or something.

Very true, it's another double standard thing people can't grasp anymore. Hell, police used to have revolvers and all sorts of shit a hundred years ago and no one complained.

[Lord Pounder]

Thats the thing these days in the UK the public seems outraged when the police defend themselves or something.

Very true, it's another double standard thing people can't grasp anymore. Hell, police used to have revolvers and all sorts of shit a hundred years ago and no one complained.

Is that all? The cops in my area carry machine guns and full body armour. But i see where your comming from i remember the kick up the lefties caused when the Mainland UK police got issued CS Gas.

[weemadando]

Hahah!

Belgian Police vs Rioting Fans...

That was one of the funniest soccer riots ever.

[The Great Unbearded One]

I think you both had valid points, but then again, not all fans riot. I dont think I'd get involved in a riot (well unless it was Tottenham or Germany) cause too many innocent people who just came to see the match and have a good time would get hurt, so those who start it should be stopped quickly and with force setting an example to all. Plus water cannon = FUN!

Oh, and on the subject of proper footie

Manchester United - 0

ARSENAL - 2 BOO YEAH! ARSENAL RULE! I cant wait to get to Highbury on April 16th and see Arsenal beat Man U again!

[Kuja]

Hahah!

Belgian Police vs Rioting Fans...

That was one of the funniest soccer riots ever.

Ever see the Italians vs the British? That one was wild.

[The Great Unbearded One]

The best football (cause it's not soccer people, when will just learn to accept this) riots in my opinion are the England VS Germany riots, cause there is like 3/4 generations of hatred going on back there...and plus, there are no better football hooligans than the English mob!

[Lord Pounder]

Rangers -v- Celtic matches get the best riots. Fair enough the riots actually happen like a 1000 miles away in Northern Ireland but they are pretty wild. I remember being at one where the Provies actually pulled out guns and started shooting.