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Heh Heh Heh.....USAF to PT with USMC
Posted: 2003-02-16 10:50pm
by MKSheppard
The Air Force is warning troops that when they deploy jointly
with other services they may have to perform physical training,
or PT, as a way to transcend different cultures.
The Air Force has long been considered the most looked-after
service. Its troops always seem to get the best digs, food and
recreational amenities.
A recent headquarters message to personnel seemed to recognize
the disparity.
"AF people deploying to a joint environment can make the most of
the experience if they learn the cultural differences of the other
service," said the message. "For example, units with an Army
or Marine Corps officer in charge may require group PT, a
necessary part of their profession; all services must respect each
others' cultural differences."
The message adds, "The key to having a successful deployment
and experience working with other branches of service is to learn
their cultural differences so you can appreciate why they think and
act differently. In turn, as an airman, you need to know as much
about yourself and why you operate the way you do."
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Heh Heh Heh
Posted: 2003-02-16 11:09pm
by Sokar
Oh thoes poor , poor airmen........The Marines will run them into the ground just for sport...."Of course we run ten miles every morning Airman, NOW HAUL ASSS you pasty faced Wingwiper!!!
My pop was a trooper in the 82nd, stationed down in Panama back in '73 and they all made sure to get buddy buddy with the Airmen, as they were the only ones with AC in their barracks......plus according to him , they always had the best weed.
Posted: 2003-02-17 02:14am
by Knife
As long as the Airmen can run 3 miles in about 20 minutes in the local climate, they should be alright. If not, then I suggest that they do not eat beakfast before PT.
Posted: 2003-02-17 02:32am
by jegs2
Airmen do PT? Since when?
Posted: 2003-02-17 02:38am
by Sokar
Thats what I was thinking
My last roomate was a Airforce ROTC student, and we had a pair of Marine ROTC's who lived down the hall, they gave him a rash of shit about his 'wimpy' PT on a weekly basis
Posted: 2003-02-17 02:46am
by Enlightenment
Awww, poor USAF babies. Having to do PT and no golf course nearby either...
In addition to getting these guys in shape, one hopes that being posted in the presense of real armed forces will teach the USAF-types the lesson that things that go bang shouldn't be shot at allied units...
Posted: 2003-02-17 03:10am
by Hyperion
The USAF may have an easier PT, but when it really comes down to it, the Navy guys'll live longer.
Posted: 2003-02-17 03:27am
by Enlightenment
Hyperion wrote:The USAF may have an easier PT, but when it really comes down to it, the Navy guys'll live longer.
Disagree as far as the enlisted folks and the non-pilot officers are concerned. Being stationed at an airbase is far safer than being in/on a ship. More proof that evolution favors stupid people...
Posted: 2003-02-17 04:45am
by Hyperion
Enlightenment wrote:Hyperion wrote:The USAF may have an easier PT, but when it really comes down to it, the Navy guys'll live longer.
Disagree as far as the enlisted folks and the non-pilot officers are concerned. Being stationed at an airbase is far safer than being in/on a ship. More proof that evolution favors stupid people...
In truth there is no truely safe place if you're in the military and at war... Airbases and ships can be bombed rather easially, though at least a ship can move which makes them harder to get at, but not by much.
I for one would rather be aboard a ship or flying a fighter if there's a war and I'm in it somehow, but that's just me.
Posted: 2003-02-17 08:13am
by Mr Bean
Stationed on a Carrier has been the best life insurance policy for quite some time, Sure we are the most important Target but rarley do we take hits, and if we are sunk, you sure as hell know help is coming
Posted: 2003-02-17 11:48am
by TrailerParkJawa
Well, in most situations I would say the AF guys are gonna have a to keep up with the Marines, but you never know. I once went to a Marine Corps charity run in SF and my friends unit (USMC) , got trounced by some Coast Guard guys from Alameda.
Posted: 2003-02-17 12:52pm
by Wicked Pilot
Posted: 2003-02-17 01:40pm
by jegs2
Sure, and I can probably find a civilian woman who can outperform most Army Rangers -- there are always
exceptions to the rule...
Posted: 2003-02-17 05:16pm
by LordChaos
Has anyone besides myself actualy been through AF basic in the past decade? No? Then shut the hell up. You have no idea what you are talking about. AF PT may not be as endurance based as, for example, USMC's, but they are not wimps.
Posted: 2003-02-17 07:12pm
by jegs2
LordChaos wrote:Has anyone besides myself actualy been through AF basic in the past decade? No? Then shut the hell up. You have no idea what you are talking about. AF PT may not be as endurance based as, for example, USMC's, but they are not wimps.
Chill out buddy, we're just poking a little fun. We all know that the Air Force is the best civilian job you can have and still get military benefits...
Posted: 2003-02-17 07:38pm
by Wicked Pilot
jegs2 wrote:Chill out buddy, we're just poking a little fun. We all know that the Air Force is the best civilian job you can have and still get military benefits...
If I was an O-4 I'd flame you... sir.
Posted: 2003-02-17 07:46pm
by Enlightenment
jegs2 wrote:We all know that the Air Force is the best civilian job you can have and still get military benefits...
Plus the AF-types get to shoot lots of things that explode, and best of all, checking the identity of the target is merely a strong suggestion rather than a requirement. What more could one ask for?
Posted: 2003-02-17 07:47pm
by Tsyroc
Mr Bean wrote:Stationed on a Carrier has been the best life insurance policy for quite some time, Sure we are the most important Target but rarley do we take hits, and if we are sunk, you sure as hell know help is coming
True, although I keep waiting to find out that floor wax fumes are cancerous, either that or maybe they cause impotence.
About the only time I really felt like a target on a carrier was when the USSR was still around. Even then it was mostly because training hadn't changed yet . Later on it wasn't even too big of a deal to be overflown by a Bear. It did upset people but only because we were trying to hide not because they were seen as a threat. It was like playing the old game.
There are plenty of dangers to living on a carrier just inherent to living on big warship but if everyone is careful and does their jobs correctly the hazards should be minimized.
Posted: 2003-02-17 07:50pm
by Tsyroc
LordChaos wrote:Has anyone besides myself actualy been through AF basic in the past decade? No? Then shut the hell up. You have no idea what you are talking about. AF PT may not be as endurance based as, for example, USMC's, but they are not wimps.
I think they were commenting on regular daily PT after you get out of basic and not what goes on during basic.
Posted: 2003-02-17 08:25pm
by Sokar
LordChaos wrote:Has anyone besides myself actualy been through AF basic in the past decade? No? Then shut the hell up. You have no idea what you are talking about. AF PT may not be as endurance based as, for example, USMC's, but they are not wimps.
Easy chief, were just having a bit of fun...
Posted: 2003-02-17 10:08pm
by LordChaos
Tsyroc wrote:LordChaos wrote:Has anyone besides myself actualy been through AF basic in the past decade? No? Then shut the hell up. You have no idea what you are talking about. AF PT may not be as endurance based as, for example, USMC's, but they are not wimps.
I think they were commenting on regular daily PT after you get out of basic and not what goes on during basic.
IIRC (it's been a few years), every AF personal has to pass a PT test yearly that is the same as required to pass basic.
(and there are regulations requiring X amount of time weekly spent on PT, though the specifics of the PT were left undefined)
Posted: 2003-02-17 10:12pm
by LordChaos
And I know that it was all (mostly
) in jest (I'm normaly in the front of making fun of AF....)... just get's a little on my nerves sometimes when people seem to think that AF personal are lazy SoB's (regaurdless if there are some..
)
Posted: 2003-02-17 10:14pm
by Captain tycho
Don't poke fun at the USAF.
We're the ones with F-22.
( Not to mention most of the country's nuclear warheads. Double (
).)
Posted: 2003-02-18 09:32pm
by Enlightenment
At the Air Force Academy, getting raped brings a reprimand
From Capitol Hill Blue
Do the Crime, Do the Time
If you're a female cadet at the Air Force Academy, don't get raped. If you do, don't report it. The academy will reprimand you for doing so. Five cadets recently came forward to report rapes that, when reported, were ignored by academy officials. Instead, the five were issued official reprimands for reporting the incidents. Four have since left the academy after being treated like they were either promiscuous or crazy. "I was told I must have done something to invite the sexual assault," one said. Another, who was gang raped by several male cadets, says she was told to "forget about it and think about my career." The US military has finally ordered a review of how the Air Force Academy handles sexual assault allegations after a growing number of female cadets say they were sexually abused and academy leaders ignored the abuse. Dorothy Mackey, who founded a group that tracks sexual assaults in the military, has talked with the cadets. "They have attempted to talk about it or find some assistance within the system. Instead they have systematically been told to shut up by other cadets or the system itself," said Mackey, a former air force captain who says she resigned her commission in 1992 after two other officers harassed her. Her lawsuit against the men was ultimately rejected by the US Supreme Court. After Mackey's complaints to the academy and the Pentagon brought no action, she took her case to Senators Wayne Allard of Colorado and John Warner of Virginia. The Senators have demanded an investigation. Under pressure from the Senators, the office of Air Force Secretary Roche announced a special review panel formed to review sexual-assault policies in the military branch, "with a particular emphasis on the Air Force Academy." © 2003 Capitol Hill Blue
Any more corrupt and one could mistake the USAF for the US Congress...
Posted: 2003-02-18 10:37pm
by Wicked Pilot
Enlightenment wrote:
Any more corrupt and one could mistake the USAF for the US Congress...
Are you gonna provide a link, or did you pull that out your ass?