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Heh Heh.....USS Robert E Lee?
Posted: 2003-02-17 05:40am
by MKSheppard
The USS Robert E. Lee was the third nuclear-powered fleet ballistic missile submarine to join the fleet. She started life as a Fast Attack and 26 years later, she ended her service by once more becoming a Fast Attack (click here to see her final days page). Her keel was laid on Shipway 5 Aug. 25, 1958, less than a month after her contract was signed on July 30. She was to become the USS Shark (SSN-591), Newport News Shipyard Hull No 545, as one of the boats in the modified Skipjack class (SSN-585) design. Although the contract for Shark had been awarded almost 18 months earlier than that of Robert E. Lee, the Polaris program had priority, so the Lee was completed first. Robert E. Lee and her four sisters in the George Washington Class (SSBN-598) that were built at other shipyards all started as a modified Skipjack-class design with a 130-foot missile section containing 16 Polaris tubes added amidships. Like the others in the 598 Class, the Lee's construction was expedited and she was launched on Dec. 18, 1959.
The Lee is the first U.S. Navy ship to bear the name of the famous confederate general and the first nuclear submarine to have been built in the South. She was the first nuclear ship to be built at the Newport News Shipbuilding and Drydock Company. The christening ceremony for Robert E. Lee was a festive one in tradition of the Old South, and Gen. Lee’s granddaughter Mrs. Hanson E. Ely, JR., served as sponsor. Robert E. Lee fired a water salvo from her missile tubes during the launching of Enterprise (CVAN-65) and completed highly successful sea trials before being commissioned at the shipyard. Another descendent of General Lee, Vice Admiral Fitzhugh Lee, USN, was the principal speaker when the ship was commissioned on September 16, 1960.
Posted: 2003-02-17 09:17am
by Patrick Degan
And, your point is...?
Posted: 2003-02-17 09:33am
by Stormbringer
Patrick Degan wrote:And, your point is...?
For Shep to gloat. There isn't any real point to this at all.
Posted: 2003-02-17 09:45am
by Peregrin Toker
The irony is that is named after a Confederate general, and the Confederacy lost the Civil War.
Posted: 2003-02-17 03:00pm
by Sea Skimmer
Simon H.Johansen wrote:The irony is that is named after a Confederate general, and the Confederacy lost the Civil War.
Do you realizes how many US military Vehicles, ships and bases are named for Southern civil war Commanders? The number is rather high.
Posted: 2003-02-17 03:04pm
by The Yosemite Bear
Mind you the Confederacy was the first group to actually SINK anything with a sub....
Posted: 2003-02-17 03:15pm
by Frank Hipper
The Yosemite Bear wrote:Mind you the Confederacy was the first group to actually SINK anything with a sub....
It would be pretty kickass to see a SSXN class USS
Hunley.
Posted: 2003-02-17 03:22pm
by The Yosemite Bear
True but they won't do it, because the Hunley didn't exactly survive it's first contact with the enemy.
Posted: 2003-02-17 03:46pm
by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi
I think the point is that the PC people wouldn't approve of that, because they'd say Lee was racist.
I'd find if funny if there was a USS Bill Clinton, though.
Posted: 2003-02-17 03:50pm
by Joe
Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I think the point is that the PC people wouldn't approve of that, because they'd say Lee was racist.
I'd find if funny if there was a USS Bill Clinton, though.
Hmm, maybe an aircraft carrier, but never a submarine, that would just be bait for endless penis and seamen jokes.
Posted: 2003-02-17 04:03pm
by ArmorPierce
I see, you have no point, just want to gloat. I don't even know why you would care about it to gloat though.
Posted: 2003-02-17 04:07pm
by Stormbringer
ArmorPierce wrote:I see, you have no point, just want to gloat. I don't even know why you would care about it to gloat though.
This Shep, he masturbates to battle accounts.
Posted: 2003-02-17 05:26pm
by LordChaos
Simon H.Johansen wrote:The irony is that is named after a Confederate general, and the Confederacy lost the Civil War.
He was an accomplished US Army general prior to the Civil War as well.
Do you have proof that this naming was in regaurds to his accomplishments during the Civil War, or could it be that it was in honor of his accomplishments prior to said war?
Posted: 2003-02-17 05:32pm
by Sea Skimmer
Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I think the point is that the PC people wouldn't approve of that, because they'd say Lee was racist.
I'd find if funny if there was a USS Bill Clinton, though.
Its very likely there will be, but the USN will find something very unimportant or insignificant that won't ever be in the news and give the name to that. Thus ensuring that 20 years down the line Congress doesn’t try and force it onto a CVN or cruiser.
That's what was done with Carter. While the Sea Wolf that carries his name is a major and important ship, its modified to do special operations and conduct various black projects. Which means you never going to hear about it or what its doing.
Posted: 2003-02-17 05:36pm
by Sea Skimmer
The Yosemite Bear wrote:True but they won't do it, because the Hunley didn't exactly survive it's first contact with the enemy.
Hunley also sank a Federal Warship; the name is very unlikely to be used again.
Posted: 2003-02-17 05:40pm
by The Yosemite Bear
Yup, we don't like bringing up our defeats, even if they were against our selves.
We're never going to name anything after Sitting Bull or Crazy Horse (7th Cav. vets just would not approve)
Posted: 2003-02-17 05:41pm
by David
I'd find if funny if there was a USS Bill Clinton, though.
I wouldn't, fucker damn near dismantled our military.
Posted: 2003-02-17 05:42pm
by kojikun
Hmm, maybe an aircraft carrier, but never a submarine, that would just be bait for endless penis and seamen jokes.
To quote Dr Evil..
"It's long and hard and full of seamen ::pinky::"
XD
Posted: 2003-02-17 05:58pm
by Nathan F
Simon H.Johansen wrote:The irony is that is named after a Confederate general, and the Confederacy lost the Civil War.
The Confederacy was also the first nation to successfully use a submarine in battle. I guess that is the reason there is a Hunley class submarine tender.
Posted: 2003-02-18 10:54am
by Peregrin Toker
LordChaos wrote:Simon H.Johansen wrote:The irony is that is named after a Confederate general, and the Confederacy lost the Civil War.
He was an accomplished US Army general prior to the Civil War as well.
Do you have proof that this naming was in regaurds to his accomplishments during the Civil War, or could it be that it was in honor of his accomplishments prior to said war?
Perhaps in honour of his accomplishments prior to the Civil War, but wouldn't certain civil rights organizations protest against naming a submarine after a Confederate general??
Posted: 2003-02-18 11:16am
by MKSheppard
Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Perhaps in honour of his accomplishments prior to the Civil War, but wouldn't certain civil rights organizations protest against naming a submarine after a Confederate general??
USS Stonewall Jackson
and
USS Andrew Jackson, anyone?
(Both were SSBNs under the "41 for peace' program, which was to build
41 SSBNs in about a decade)
Those names would NOT fly today...
Stonewall jackson, because well, he was a Confederate General.....
and Andy Jackson because he fucked over the Cherokees
Posted: 2003-02-18 11:40am
by jegs2
Sea Skimmer wrote:Simon H.Johansen wrote:The irony is that is named after a Confederate general, and the Confederacy lost the Civil War.
Do you realizes how many US military Vehicles, ships and bases are named for Southern civil war Commanders? The number is rather high.
Ft. Benning, Ft. Bragg, Ft. Lee, Ft. Rucker, Ft. Hood -- just to name a few...
Posted: 2003-02-18 11:43am
by MKSheppard
jegs2 wrote:
Ft. Benning, Ft. Bragg, Ft. Lee, Ft. Rucker, Ft. Hood -- just to name a few...
Don't forget Ft. A.P. Hill!
Posted: 2003-02-18 01:03pm
by Sea Skimmer
MKSheppard wrote:jegs2 wrote:
Ft. Benning, Ft. Bragg, Ft. Lee, Ft. Rucker, Ft. Hood -- just to name a few...
Don't forget Ft. A.P. Hill!
Or the Stuart or General Lee tanks.
Posted: 2003-02-18 01:09pm
by MKSheppard
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Or the Stuart or General Lee tanks.
Or the M-36 Jackson Tank Destroyer