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Me, I wasn't that adventurous after I saw a snake there

What is wrong with you!? That would make me go in there more

Alyrium Denryle wrote:

Me, I wasn't that adventurous after I saw a snake there

What is wrong with you!? That would make me go in there more

Snakes can bite and are sometimes venomous, I'm sure a snake enthusiast such as yourself would have no problem identifying the potential hazards of a wild snake encounter and the best way to approach such an animal, but I would imagine that people who don't know a lot about snakes are probably better off cautiously avoiding them.


so in summary there is nothing at all wrong with ladytevar

Uraniun235 wrote:

Alyrium Denryle wrote:

Me, I wasn't that adventurous after I saw a snake there

What is wrong with you!? That would make me go in there more

Snakes can bite and are sometimes venomous, I'm sure a snake enthusiast such as yourself would have no problem identifying the potential hazards of a wild snake encounter and the best way to approach such an animal, but I would imagine that people who don't know a lot about snakes are probably better off cautiously avoiding them.


so in summary there is nothing at all wrong with ladytevar

That's funny, I learned the basics of identifying which things that slither were dangerous, and I wouldn't call myself an enthusiast, just someone who grew up in coral snake and rattlesnake country.

Red touch black, venom lack/red touch yellow, kill a fellow.

Also difference between viper and the other kind.

EDIT: fixed spelling

It's still not fun being bitten.

As far as venomous snakes go we only have Copperheads and Timber Rattlesnakes, both of which are rather distinctive and well known of by the natives, I'm guessing because she didn't name either of those that it was probably a harmless rat snake of some sort and it was more of an ick factor than actual danger. (We have just as many venomous spiders; Black Widows and Brown Recluses)

Uraniun235 wrote:It's still not fun being bitten.

Most non venomous snakes can barely break the skin. It is more of a "Ack Surprise!" thing.

But this is a rather unintentional hijack.

General Schatten wrote:As far as venomous snakes go we only have Copperheads and Timber Rattlesnakes, both of which are rather distinctive and well known of by the natives, I'm guessing because she didn't name either of those that it was probably a harmless rat snake of some sort and it was more of an ick factor than actual danger. (We have just as many venomous spiders; Black Widows and Brown Recluses)

Cottonmouths have shown up by creeks at times. However, iirc it was more the "OMGitsfuckinHUGE" than the 'ick' factor, as I think it was just a "black snake" (as opposed to Green/Garter snake). In my memories it's ten feet long; reality might have had it anywhere from 2-5ft.

LadyTevar wrote:

General Schatten wrote:As far as venomous snakes go we only have Copperheads and Timber Rattlesnakes, both of which are rather distinctive and well known of by the natives, I'm guessing because she didn't name either of those that it was probably a harmless rat snake of some sort and it was more of an ick factor than actual danger. (We have just as many venomous spiders; Black Widows and Brown Recluses)

Cottonmouths have shown up by creeks at times. However, iirc it was more the "OMGitsfuckinHUGE" than the 'ick' factor, as I think it was just a "black snake" (as opposed to Green/Garter snake). In my memories it's ten feet long; reality might have had it anywhere from 2-5ft.

Sorry Tev, cottonmouths in WV are an urban legend. WV Department of Natural Resources

This is the thing my nightmares are made of with regard to snakes. We had a number of them behind the house when I was younger and lived in Dallas. I remember my father telling me stories about what the bite would do.

EDIT: I just finished reading the wiki article. THEY STOPPED MAKING THE ANTI-VENOM! Are they insane? Hopefully the researchers at Kingsville will get the new one approved.

We also had to be careful of rattlesnakes, especially when we went out to my grandmother's.

Out here in CA, I've seen a few rattlesnakes, but they mostly stay away from the suburban areas. You just need to be careful when you go out into the parks.

General Schatten wrote: Sorry Tev, cottonmouths in WV are an urban legend. WV Department of Natural Resources

Ahh yes, the Water Moccasin, one of the main reasons we were told to "watch the water"

well I will put in with AD snakes are cool, I remember seeing them a lot when I was a kid, and was always sad when I saw one that had been killed by a human. (usually motor bikes, cars, guns) especially when it was a beneficial one.

LadyTevar wrote:

General Schatten wrote:As far as venomous snakes go we only have Copperheads and Timber Rattlesnakes, both of which are rather distinctive and well known of by the natives, I'm guessing because she didn't name either of those that it was probably a harmless rat snake of some sort and it was more of an ick factor than actual danger. (We have just as many venomous spiders; Black Widows and Brown Recluses)

Cottonmouths have shown up by creeks at times. However, iirc it was more the "OMGitsfuckinHUGE" than the 'ick' factor, as I think it was just a "black snake" (as opposed to Green/Garter snake). In my memories it's ten feet long; reality might have had it anywhere from 2-5ft.

Yeah... probably just a black rat snake (Elaphe obsoleta), I have one living in my bathroom (caged, as I have something like 20-30 snakes in my apartment and I am running out of room). I feed him little white mice. He is not friendly, but barely makes me bleed when he bites. You dont have cottonmouths in WV. You have copperheads, and timer rattlers. However people like to confuse my little baby Nerodia sipedon, the northern water snake, with cottonmouths. You can see the resemblance between it and my avatar. However it is purely the result of convergence.

This is the thing my nightmares are made of with regard to snakes. We had a number of them behind the house when I was younger and lived in Dallas. I remember my father telling me stories about what the bite would do.

EDIT: I just finished reading the wiki article. THEY STOPPED MAKING THE ANTI-VENOM! Are they insane? Hopefully the researchers at Kingsville will get the new one approved.

Old street address? I might go looking... Honestly though someone has to be REALLY dumb to get bitten by a coral snake. They are not AFAIK aggressive.../

Are snakes unusually aggressive in the US or something? What's wrong with just standing still until the snake goes away? It's not as though it's going to bite you if it just thinks you're a rock or something.

Alyrium Denryle wrote: Old street address? I might go looking...

Somewhere out by the airport. This was almost 20 years ago.

Honestly though someone has to be REALLY dumb to get bitten by a coral snake. They are not AFAIK aggressive.../

I was eight when we moved. I think my father was more worried about me picking them up or something. I do know I brought home a number of other creatures my mother disapproved of.

Lusankya wrote:Are snakes unusually aggressive in the US or something? What's wrong with just standing still until the snake goes away? It's not as though it's going to bite you if it just thinks you're a rock or something.

Nah. Something like 30% of all snakebites are to the forearms of males aged 18-30. Dumbasses sticking their hands down holes or poling snakes with a stick because it's fun, or something. Sometimes it's too bad that half of venomous snake bites are dry (injecting no venom - I heard a read from a park ranger at the Grand Canyon about how one year they had five "deaths" from people getting bitten by rattlesnakes, only all the bites, it turned out, were dry; the people had a heart attack from their panic).

I'll throw my lot in with Ally and The Bear. Snakes and all reptiles are cool. I remeber a time when I was maybe 10 years old or yougner when my family went up to hunting cabin that my dad and uncle own. I distinctly remember some little shits having killed a snake and were parading around with it (or maybe they're father killed it, not sure) and being distinctly upset about it.

Anyone else rather pissed at the rattle snake round ups they do in the south west? I remember being rather outraged when I heard about that as a kid. Now if only those assholes got bit more often.

Jason L. Miles wrote: I was eight when we moved. I think my father was more worried about me picking them up or something. I do know I brought home a number of other creatures my mother disapproved of.

Coral snakes are know to be so passive that anecdotes often relate stories of a child who has unknowingly picked one up, put it in their pocket and walked home with the snake on their person. Most of the times I hear this sort of story about people who were/became avid snake colectors and advocates. It seems to be something that's been repeated, although if its just because it makes for a good story or if its because it has an elment of truth, I can't guess.

Wing Commander MAD wrote:I'll throw my lot in with Ally and The Bear. Snakes and all reptiles are cool. I remeber a time when I was maybe 10 years old or yougner when my family went up to hunting cabin that my dad and uncle own. I distinctly remember some little shits having killed a snake and were parading around with it (or maybe they're father killed it, not sure) and being distinctly upset about it.

Anyone else rather pissed at the rattle snake round ups they do in the south west? I remember being rather outraged when I heard about that as a kid. Now if only those assholes got bit more often.

I live in a state where they exist. Yes, I am rather angry. Snake populations do not sustain that volume of collection very well. Particularly when den sites get gassed. I have a really hard time not likening it to certain atrocities committed against certain ethnic minorities in the past say... hundred years.

some how I think you would have loved to meet "Baby" a nice lovely young lady who was seven feet long, and quite content to drape over someone's shoulders after she had had her mice, loved music boxes too.