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(AP) - Hundreds of blacks rallied in front of the Capitol on Saturday to demand slavery reparations, saying that compensation is long overdue for the ills of that institution. "It seems that America owes black people a lot for what we have endured," Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan told the crowd. "We cannot settle for some little jive token. We need millions of acres of land that black people can build."

lmao! my grandfather wasn't born when slavery existed. I'm sure it's a good idea for a person 5 generations removed from the people who were slavers and prolly wasn't a slaver in the first place (I'm pretty sure my family came from europe during that time, and if not, they settled in the north) and pay the people 5 generations removed who were slaves. lmao.

Enforcer Talen wrote:(AP) - Hundreds of blacks rallied in front of the Capitol on Saturday to demand slavery reparations, saying that compensation is long overdue for the ills of that institution. "It seems that America owes black people a lot for what we have endured," Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan told the crowd. "We cannot settle for some little jive token. We need millions of acres of land that black people can build."

LEE HARVEY OSWALD, Where are you? We need you now.....

They may as well ask for pet dinosaurs and motorcycles that can travel through time while they're at it. They're all equally likely to be handed over.

They're just lazy fuckers who want a free lunch.

Indeed if this succeds I'm going to see if I can get money from the EU for the Crusades...

There is no way to deal out the reparations. If this was 40 years after the end of slavery and there were survivors Id think the idea would be justified. But now? If you are a 1/4 black do you get 1/4 payment?

Millions of acres ? No way, you cant emminent domain someone land just to hand it over to somone else.

Anywhoo, I heard on the radio last night it was Farakan (sp?) that was leading this march. Im not inclined to believe much about his intentions.

Yes indeed Give me free money because your second cousins uncles monkeys brother keep slaves and my third cousins brothers sisiter next door neighboor was one of them!

Consdering some of the Companys named acutal have forigen ownship

One is a 100% black owned South American company

This is looking for a free lunch pure and simple.

Some corporations today enjoyed their start to success through slave labor, so the sons are benefiting from the sins of the fathers.

Just another angle to look at.

EDIT: And, if they get their reparations, I want to sue the McCarthy family, as well as get Muslims to sue the Catholic Church.

AS a black american I just laughed. Nothing can make up for what happened all those years ago, Sure it should have never happend, but what will a pay check do now? I don't hear INstanbul wanting Mongolia to pay up for Ghangis Khan kicking their asses 1000 years ago. The best thing to do is to remember all the events that happened and never forget what it did to America and all ots people.

Off-topic. Thread moved.

Shame every slave and slave owner are long dead...

Enforcer Talen wrote:It seems that America owes black people a lot for what we have endured,"

I guess he was a slave then? Pardon me while I call Guiness, a 130+ old who can still rally must be a record...

Durandal wrote:Some corporations today enjoyed their start to success through slave labor, so the sons are benefiting from the sins of the fathers.

Just another angle to look at.

They're trying to sue CSX Corporation, because CSX is an amalgation of
several old railroads that went bankrupt in the 60s.

What a bunch of Crap. CSX didn't even exist until the 1970s!

This is stupid, My father's mother's ancestors were living in Feudal Japan During the era of Slavery in America. (She Herself did not emigrate to the USA until the 1950's.) MY Father's Father's ancestors were luving in Germany during this time. My Mother's ancestors were also living in Ireland, Scotland, and France as well. My family, especially my Japanese grandmother, should not have to pay money for reperations for slavery in this country. It is wrong and unfair. This is nothing by Ex post facto and is a violation of the US constitution

They want compensation, how about the 360 thousand dead Union soldiers. Does their blood mean nothing to these parasites?

I can't believe the sheer stupidity of this. Who is suppost to pay for this? People who's families immigrated at the turn of the century? Black people who have slave owners in their ancestory? Who is suppost to receive it? Anybody who is black? What about those who are half black? How about the descendents of later immigrants or northern freemen?

Can you imagine the HUGE backlash that would happen if this went threw. Black people would complain about crumbling schools in the inner city. White response: "You got paid." Black people would complain about rampant crime in the inner city. White response: "You got paid." Blacks would complaign about a lack of minorities in colleges and universities. White response: "you got paid." Black people would complaign about the salary gap between them and whites. White response: "You got paid." And etc.

1st: I refuse to accept responsiblity for any actions save my own.
2nd: Before 1863 slavery was not only legal, it was constitutional.
I do not like the idea of slavery. As Abraham Lincoln said, "As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master."
As previous posts have noted, the Federal Gov't paid a high price to crush the Confederacy. I feel this price was sufficient. For those who feel it was not, I offer the comments of the fictional Sgt. Rawlins of "Glory". "You want to fight everybody, 'cause you've been whipped, and chased by hounds? That might not be livin', but it sure as Hell ain't dyin'. And dyin's' what these white boys been doing for nigh on three years...dyin' by their thousands...dyin' for you, fool. I know, cause I dug their graves."
Besides the which, no one yet living was a slave. If the negroes wanted to sue for reparations for 'Jim Crow' I would gladly support that, since the 'Jim Crow' laws were clearly un-Constituional. But reparations for slavery? No. Never.
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I don't support reparations from the state, since the state is the leadership apparatus of the people, many of whom have had nothing whatsoever to do with slavery.

However, I think it would be interesting for some of these so-called "black leaders" to research the paper trail, see where the money from these slave plantations went, and then try to lay claim to it with civil lawsuits. The descendants aren't going to be punished for their ancestors' crimes per se (no one's being sent to prison), but if they are living off ill-gotten gains (even 200 years later), I think it would be eminently fair to give it back. And if they end up in the poorhouse, too bad; I have no sympathy for people who can't stand up on their own two feet without a giant inheritance to prop them up anyway.

That's essentially my stance on the issue. The public, who by and large, are not benefitting at all from slavery 200 years ago, should not be made to fork out even more tax money.

However, the corporations/families that are enjoying the fruits of free labor 200 years ago should do the decent thing and simply give some of their money to the families of the slaves.

Mike:
I rely don't think 'they' would have a legal leg to stand on, since before 1863 slavery was not only legal, but constitutional, in the U.S. Whether you or I think that was wrong is of little account. Needless to say, I think "Blacks" (read, American's of African desent') would be better served suing for reparations against 'Jim Crow'.

The descendants aren't going to be punished for their ancestors' crimes per se (no one's being sent to prison), but if they are living off ill-gotten gains (even 200 years later), I think it would be eminently fair to give it back. And if they end up in the poorhouse, too bad; I have no sympathy for people who can't stand up on their own two feet without a giant inheritance to prop them up anyway.

Too bad if they end up in the poor house?? For a crime they did not comit?


Should Americans and Canadians give back land to the Indians? Lets face it we took it. Can Spain ask for California back?

Should Americans and Canadians give back land to the Indians? Lets face it we took it. Can Spain ask for California back?

If they want it back...let them TAKE it back.

Now people, Louis farakhan, has a point. Blacks suffered, and everyone who thinks they deserve the 100 acres and mule should get it (that is what the union promised).
one of the interesting facts is that the US federal gov owns approximately about 83% of the west (even more of alaska). Most is just workthless land that goes for about $5/acre. So the only thing we really have to pay for is a mule.

I think this is a real cheap opportunity to get rid of all the louise Farakhan welfare queens out of our cities and onto plantations where they can learn the value of hard work by being forced to make the land viable.

That wil free up lots of perfectly good housing projects to be torn down and something more useful put in its place. We might even turn a porfit from sales to developers

Sure let them have what they want, just make them keep it. Its about time people learned just how empty and vast America is even with 300 million people.

Then we can kiss this reperations thing good bye.

I think this is a real cheap opportunity to get rid of all the louise Farakhan welfare queens out of our cities and onto plantations where they can learn the value of hard work by being forced to make the land viable.

Aye Considering the fact you need at least 400+ to have a viable money making Farm(VERY hard to do, I spent a summer working one and had a grandfather who grew up on one)

that would be thier problem. I thnk they will learn a valueable lesson from this experience.

TrailerParkJawa wrote:Too bad if they end up in the poor house?? For a crime they did not comit?

They're not being punished. They're merely having wealth that is not rightfully theirs being given back to its rightful owners.

Should Americans and Canadians give back land to the Indians? Lets face it we took it. Can Spain ask for California back?

Like it or not, squatters' rights apply to land but not to money.