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Why Octopii are great critters.
Posted: 2003-02-25 04:26am
by weemadando
http://abc.net.au/news/justin/nat/newsn ... 003-80.htm
This and all the other research and observations regarding octopii problem solving makes me think that we should "uplift" octopii, not chimps and dolphins like that fool Brin thinks.
Posted: 2003-02-25 04:51am
by Raxmei
They certainly do look promising. I see a bit of an obstacle in that we know even less about cephalopod intelligence than we do of mammalian. It would make sense to start with the animals we best understand (chimps, then dolphins) and leave the octopus for when we feel more confident.
And a grammar note:
The plural of octopus is not octopii. Not even close. A Latin noun of the second declension changes the ending to -i in the plural, not -ii as has been here written. Thus viri, not virii and radii, not radiii. This would make the problem a trivial extra letter but for one minor detail. Octopus in not a normal Latin second declension noun. The word comes from the Greek oktopous. If you wanted to use the classic plural of the word, it would be octopodes. If you wanted to use the English plural, on the other hand, it is just octopuses.
Posted: 2003-02-25 05:09am
by weemadando
Raxmei wrote:They certainly do look promising. I see a bit of an obstacle in that we know even less about cephalopod intelligence than we do of mammalian. It would make sense to start with the animals we best understand (chimps, then dolphins) and leave the octopus for when we feel more confident.
And a grammar note:
The plural of octopus is not octopii. Not even close. A Latin noun of the second declension changes the ending to -i in the plural, not -ii as has been here written. Thus viri, not virii and radii, not radiii. This would make the problem a trivial extra letter but for one minor detail. Octopus in not a normal Latin second declension noun. The word comes from the Greek oktopous. If you wanted to use the classic plural of the word, it would be octopodes. If you wanted to use the English plural, on the other hand, it is just octopuses.
Nitpicker.
And I've personally found octopuses/pii/pi/podes to be really funky critters. I played with one for about 10 minutes while diving once. Curious things and REALLY intelligent.
Posted: 2003-02-25 06:54am
by Darth Fanboy
One of the animals I take care of for work is a local species of Octopus, we have two of them but the one I like is pretty big. Bastards can stick to almost anything and the only way to keep them in a tank is to put astroturf along every "escape route". Astroturf is the only substance the octopus can't stick to.
Posted: 2003-02-25 10:51am
by Peregrin Toker
There's a reason Cthulhu has a squid for a head.
Posted: 2003-02-25 01:34pm
by Cosmic Average
Whenever I click the link, I receive this message:
Posted: 2003-02-25 01:37pm
by Kuja
Yes, they're intelligent. It's really too bad that they have a lifespan of only a few years.
Posted: 2003-02-25 02:17pm
by Admiral Valdemar
I wonder what the giant ones are like. I always wanted a pet octobpus though, funky guys.
Posted: 2003-02-25 02:39pm
by Darth Fanboy
The one @ Birch Aquarium in San Diego is pretty big, bastards about the size of a large dog counting the tentacles.