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Avatar size

Posted: 2003-02-27 01:49pm
by His Divine Shadow
I was figuring that our avatar size could use another 2kb of allowed space, I don't think it would affectperformance at all, I was a modem user and on SB they have a 15kb limit and I had no problems loading pages, I believe this could help alot.

My current avatar that I wish to upload maxes out at 7.5kb and I cannot get it down to 6kb without making it look like shit.

Posted: 2003-02-27 01:51pm
by Ted
Uh, isn't it already at 8k?

And 100x100?

Posted: 2003-02-27 01:53pm
by His Divine Shadow
Ted wrote:Uh, isn't it already at 8k?

And 100x100?
No, it's 6kb

The size doesn't matter as much to me, it's impossible for me to have 100x100 avatars and stay in the size limit, without resorting to some real shitty qualty.

Posted: 2003-02-27 02:07pm
by Admiral Valdemar
Use a compressor, I found one just recently.

Posted: 2003-02-27 02:11pm
by His Divine Shadow
Admiral Valdemar wrote:Use a compressor, I found one just recently.
Done that.
Still, this is not just about me not getting an avatar to fit.

Posted: 2003-02-27 02:14pm
by His Divine Shadow
At any rate, I used another image instead, so I got an animated avatar to fit.

Posted: 2003-02-27 02:27pm
by Kelly Antilles
While the larger size would be nice, Mike barely has enough room to store all the posts on the server.

Posted: 2003-02-27 02:28pm
by His Divine Shadow
Kelly Antilles wrote:While the larger size would be nice, Mike barely has enough room to store all the posts on the server.
Ah, that explains it.

Posted: 2003-02-27 02:29pm
by His Divine Shadow
Hey, can you people see the image in my sig or is it a red x?

Posted: 2003-02-27 02:30pm
by Ted
Your new AV aint showing up.

Posted: 2003-02-27 02:32pm
by Kelly Antilles
I see it just fine.

Posted: 2003-02-27 02:35pm
by Montcalm
I`ve just enlarged my avatar and its 3.01kb

Posted: 2003-02-27 02:36pm
by The Great Unbearded One
I see it just fine, and mine was just very very slighty over the limit and I had to condense it which was a pain in the arse...

Posted: 2003-02-27 02:46pm
by ArmorPierce
It would be nice. Maybe it should be one of the benefits of becoming a donater to SD.net.

Posted: 2003-02-28 08:05am
by Darth Fanboy
Nay, because once the room runs out old posts will have to be deleted. Which means people with over 5000 posts will watch their counts plummet while current Younglings and Padawans won't have that effect.

It effects both the aesthetics and heirarchy of the board. The rules for heirarchy are as follows

Top of the ladder- The Esteemed Owner

Next- Women and Mods

Next to Next- Post count.

Seeing as how I am not a woman nor a mod my post count is the only thing that separates me from the constant influx of new users who have various intentions.

So, yeah, nay

Posted: 2003-02-28 09:28am
by Kelly Antilles
Darth Fanboy wrote:Nay, because once the room runs out old posts will have to be deleted. Which means people with over 5000 posts will watch their counts plummet while current Younglings and Padawans won't have that effect.

It effects both the aesthetics and heirarchy of the board. The rules for heirarchy are as follows

Top of the ladder- The Esteemed Owner

Next- Women and Mods

Next to Next- Post count.

Seeing as how I am not a woman nor a mod my post count is the only thing that separates me from the constant influx of new users who have various intentions.

So, yeah, nay
Wow... that's.... I'm speechless, Fanboy. :)

Posted: 2003-02-28 09:58am
by Alyeska
How the devil do you people get such detailed AND fairly large Avatars. I had to tweak mine with photshop and shrink it down and still loose detail, and its a simpler design!

Posted: 2003-02-28 10:02am
by Kelly Antilles
Alyeska wrote:How the devil do you people get such detailed AND fairly large Avatars. I had to tweak mine with photshop and shrink it down and still loose detail, and its a simpler design!
Have you tried saving it as a .gif? I believe there are several compression programs out there you can use.

Posted: 2003-03-01 12:38am
by Darth Wong
Several points of note:

1) The size of the posts on the server is unaffected by the avatar size. However, the daily bandwidth is definitely affected, and we're already pushing a lot of bandwidth.

2) GIF images are always big because GIF is a lossless image format. People only use it because it allows image-flipping, ie- animated images. Its downsides are size, a ridiculous intellectual property situation, and the fact that it's limited to 8-bit images.

3) JPG images compress far smaller than GIF images and the compression is tunable. However, JPG is a lossy image format and can create visual artifacts. They are rarely objectionable; my own avatar is compressed with JPG all the way down to 2.5kB and still looks good.

4) PNG is a newer format which seems to produce fewer compression artifacts than GIF and has tunable compression as well. However, its images are bigger than JPG images.

Posted: 2003-03-01 12:42am
by Crayz9000
Darth Wong wrote:4) PNG is a newer format which seems to produce fewer compression artifacts than GIF and has tunable compression as well. However, its images are bigger than JPG images.
Microsoft products also vomit every time you wave a PNG at them, although the support's been getting somewhat better recently.

I would be using a PNG for my sig, but there are still people here who use Nutscrape 4 and Internet Exploder 4...

Posted: 2003-03-01 12:45am
by Ted
Crayz9000 wrote:I would be using a PNG for my sig, but there are still people here who use Nutscrape 4 and Internet Exploder 4...
People still use IE4?

Wow, so old that.



BTW, how much free bandwidth space do you have left Mike? Not the free as in no cost free.

Posted: 2003-03-01 12:52am
by David
:idea: Perhaps we could link our av images to KAJ's site, he appearantly has plenty of bandwidth to blow on useless crap.

Posted: 2003-03-01 01:07am
by Captain tycho
David wrote::idea: Perhaps we could link our av images to KAJ's site, he appearantly has plenty of bandwidth to blow on useless crap.
Hmm..... :P
Anyone for 50 GB Avs? :twisted:

Posted: 2003-03-01 01:10am
by Howedar
6kb is fine. I think animated avatars are irritating anyway.

Posted: 2003-03-01 01:11am
by David
I'm not asking for much, just to have the original trilogy as my av.